Thread: What of Curumo?
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Old 01-29-2008, 10:05 AM   #11
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Quite interesting.
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Originally Posted by Ibrīnišilpathānezel View Post
He did not do what he was supposed to do in that life, and now is condemned to wander among those he could have helped, a witness to all he is now powerless to share or aid. Just my thoughts, of course.
Yes, I also have always thought of it this way: both Sauron and Saruman wandering "naked"- bodiless and powerless through Middle-Earth, unable to assume a form again.
But is contradicts the UT quote given by The Might:
"and to Middle-earth, whether naked or embodied, came never back. "

So, where did the Spirit of Saruman go?

And more general question: where do spirits of disembodied Maiar go? Are they summoned by Mandos like Eru's children or not?
What about Melian for instance?

But I am sure it was not the fate of the nazgul. They were born Men, not Elves or Maiar, and nobody but Eru could have changed their ultimate fate.
Yes, when "killed" by Merry and Eowyn the WK was "reduced to impotence" , that means that his spirit didn't leave for the Halls of Mandos straight away. But it surely did after the Ring was destroyed. It was not in Sauron's power to deny the Nazgul the Gift of Eru after death, though through the Rings their lives were unnaturally stretched and their spirits bound to the Rings.
With the One destroyed and the Nine Rings shorn of their power, there was nothing to keep the nazgul bound to Middle-Earth. They finally died like all Men die and went to Mandos and beyond.

As for Dagor Dagorath - why, interesting idea. Turin and Earendil and the Witch-King in one team.
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