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Old 01-31-2010, 03:11 PM   #3
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Originally Posted by Inziladun View Post
I don't agree with the idea that the Mouth would say Sauron as a private joke. The parley at the Morannon was being closely observed by Sauron!
Was it indeed? Unlike what Peter Jackson wants us to think, the Morannon was about 100 miles from Barad-dűr. Sauron could, of course, have observed the parley in his palantír (and he very likely would have), but as far as I remember, the Stones don't transmit sound, and The Mouth was probably facing away from him, so no lip-reading.
On the other hand, I concede that The Mouth would have had to reckon with the possibility that some of his escort, who were within earshot, would inform The Eye on his improper language.

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Originally Posted by Mnemosyne
And I get the feeling that we're just back-justifying genuine plotholes using the Translator's Conceit yet again... (We run into a similar problem with the fact that "Moria" which wasn't called "Moria" until post-Balrog still has "Moria" engraved on its doors.)
Yes of course, but isn't it fun?
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