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Old 04-13-2013, 04:05 AM   #254
Aganzir
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And degrading her to just "being a wife of..." is certainly not very nice, especially given that the husband in question is in fact a kidnapper, in her case.
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I think, if you say about Ar-Zimraphel that the only thing she managed to do was to lose the scepter and die, I think with Aredhel, it is kind of similar fate. Look also at that - forced to wed some abusive self-centered madman and then dies.


Aredhel did what she wanted instead of what she was told, and she wouldn't be the first Tolkien character to get into trouble for that. You could even say she was the victim of a not very nice fate, comparable to the heroines of G.R.R. Martin's books...
Whether she fell for a mysterious dark stranger or was raped, she can't be blamed for it either way. And don't forget that before she died, she escaped her abusive husband (not an easy feat) and negotiated her way home - and then gave her life so her son could live. What's not cool about her?

I like Goldberry too (mainly for the reasons Legate and G55 mentioned), but I've been very tempted to hurt her at times because of her ridiculous number of points. And partly out of spite too if G55 has hurt Thuringwethil - this game can be really infuriating if somebody has altogether different opinions about everyone. Legate probably knows how I feel.

As for Nerdanel, she's about the only person ever, apart from Finwë, who had any control whatsoever over Fëanor. She must have been massively talented anyway, considering how much of her fëa she spent carrying seven children.

Another thing I find cool about Thuringwethil is that if we assume she's an actual person instead of just Lúthien in a bat costume she found on Tol-in-Gaurhoth (which I do), the fact that there's a winged messenger travelling between Morgoth and Sauron is awesome. And female, too. Apart from the spiders, she's the only named female villain. Think of how much terror she must have sown on her errands, even if all she did was fly!

Also, those of you who're constantly trying to hurt Thû - he's male, he's not in!

Heal Thuringwethil
Hurt Elwing and Ar-Zimraphel

Thuringwethil (6)
Goldberry (13)
Elwing (6)
Ar-Zimraphel (10)
Aredhel (9)
Nerdanel (6)
Vairë (11)

DEAD
Galadriel- phialed off by TP
Ungoliant- swatted by TP
Andreth- aged by TP
Ioreth- quieted by TP
Nienor- mercy-killed by TP
Nienna- left crying by TP
Yavanna- pruned by TP
Idril- offed by TP
Lobelia- umbrella-ed by TP
Shelob- stepped on by TP
Erendis- drowned by TP
Rosie- finished by TP
Vana- weeded out by TP
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