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Old 04-30-2004, 05:04 AM   #1
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Ecthelion vs 100 trolls???

As always, this question might be answered in some other thread, but I haven't found it...

I've heard a rumour about a fight between Ecthelion and 100 trolls where Ecthelion slew them all. I want to know: is this true? And if it is, when did that happen? were can one read about this event?

I hope you can clear this up and and help me erase the questionmarks...
Thanks for your help!
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Old 04-30-2004, 11:03 AM   #2
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I am sorry to say, Gothmog, but I think you have been deceived, for Ecthelion 1st was the steward of Gondor who rebuilt the tower in Minas Tirith.

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The seventeenth Ruling Steward of Gondor, who succeeded his father Orodreth to the Stewardship. He is most famous for rebuilding the White Tower that surmounted the city of Minas Tirith, which was afterwards known as the Tower of Ecthelion. He ruled in Gondor for just thirteen years, and was succeeded by his son Egalmoth.
The encyclopaedia of Arda, entry on Ecthelion I "The Steward who rebuilt Minas Tirith’s White Tower"
No other account is given of his actions.

Ecthelion II on the other hand was;

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the son of Steward Turgon, and was a wise and foresightful Man. He put his efforts into strengthening his realm against the approaching danger of Sauron, who had openly revealed himself in the last years of Turgon's Stewardship. He was aided in this work by Gandalf, and by a mysterious stranger named 'Thorongil', who was later known to be none other than Aragorn. Ecthelion was succeeded as Steward by his son Denethor II, who ruled Gondor at the time of the War of the Ring.
There is nothing about slaying Trolls... not 100 of them anyway.
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Old 04-30-2004, 11:43 AM   #3
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Hookbill, you seem to have forgotten an Ecthelion, the one in Gondolin. I haven't heard anything about him fighting trolls, so if any such material exists it must be in HoME. In BoLT however, it is said that Ecthelion and his men killed more orcs in a single attack than all other elves in all other wars altogether, and there might very well have been some trolls there.
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Old 04-30-2004, 01:41 PM   #4
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Ecthelion of the Fountain was the slayer of Gothmog
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Old 04-30-2004, 01:48 PM   #5
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Gothmog , the rumour wasn't quite that Ecthelion was in a fight with 100 trolls and killed them all. Rather, in a single battle (might have been the fall of Gondolin) he killed 100.

I believe the reference is in HoME (if it exists at all, that is). It may not be true.
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Old 05-01-2004, 02:35 AM   #6
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I'm sorry if I wasn't clear enough, Hookbill the Goomba. I meant Ecthelion the elf, Ecthelion of the Fountain from Gondolin.

When was the attack when Ecthelion and his men "killed more orcs in a single attack than all other elves in all other wars altogether"? At the attack of Gondolin?

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Yes I know drigel, but as you can see: I'm back I'm still a little angry with him though...
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