Where on Middle earth am I? - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Hookbill the Goomba · 07-18-2004, 12:45 PM

First question;

Right, this has been annoying me for some time now. WHERE IS BELERIAND? I ask this because I have heard two different things about it. Firstly in The Atlas of Middle earth (which I purchased recently), it says that Beleriand was destroyed in some way. That would seem to tie in to what is said in HoME X (or 10 for all you non-Roman people) as to the change from a flat world to a round world and the reshaping of Middle earth.
However, in other books such as "Characters form Tolkien" Beleriand is shown to be slightly to the north of the area of Middle earth involved in LoTR. (If you have no idea of what i am on about, go home... or look here )

Also I have been told that in other HoME books that I have not got, it says that this is what is right. Does anyone have the answer? Or is this going to cause too many arguments and deaths. (Technically this is the barrow downs and we are all supposed to be dead and well...)

Second question;
There is no second question.
i was going to put one, but i forgot what it was... You think of one...

Novnarwen · 07-18-2004, 01:04 PM

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WHERE IS BELERIAND?

There are, I think, many threads concerning this topic, and concerning what happened to Beleriand. Here are two: Where is . . .?

and .. .

Sinking Beleriand .

Reading the Silmarillion would give answers to your questions.

You could also check out this, which is a simple and short explanation concerning Beleriand: Where in Middle-earth was Beleriand.

Nova

drigel · 07-22-2004, 07:57 AM

that is a nicely drawn composite map though. A decent interpretation although i see a couple of minor errors. I could see how that could be confusing though

davem · 07-22-2004, 09:08 AM

There's a nice interactive map of Beleriand here:
http://users.cybercity.dk/%7Ebkb1782/tolkien/

(Listed as 'Details of Beleriand' - click on the left hand buttons, the links on the main page don't work)

Gil-Galad · 07-22-2004, 10:28 AM

Basically, where Lindon is, yo usee those mountains around it! those are teh blue mountains!where mithlond is that is one of the rivers of Ossiraind, so Beleriand was west of Middle Earth

The Perky Ent · 07-31-2004, 12:18 PM

There's even some remains of Beleriand, apart from Lindon. Tol Fuin, Himling, and Tol Morwen are all mountains of Beleriand, that after the sinking became Islands. Much like how Meneltarma was with Numenor. And if you're deadly curious, go out and buy The Atlas of Middle Earth by Karen Wynn Fonstad. It's the best collection of Middle Earth maps there is. It even gives info about each place!

07-18-2004, 12:45 PM	#1
Hookbill the Goomba Alive without breath Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: On A Cold Wind To Valhalla Posts: 5,912	Where on Middle earth am I? First question; Right, this has been annoying me for some time now. WHERE IS BELERIAND? I ask this because I have heard two different things about it. Firstly in The Atlas of Middle earth (which I purchased recently), it says that Beleriand was destroyed in some way. That would seem to tie in to what is said in HoME X (or 10 for all you non-Roman people) as to the change from a flat world to a round world and the reshaping of Middle earth. However, in other books such as "Characters form Tolkien" Beleriand is shown to be slightly to the north of the area of Middle earth involved in LoTR. (If you have no idea of what i am on about, go home... or look here ) Also I have been told that in other HoME books that I have not got, it says that this is what is right. Does anyone have the answer? Or is this going to cause too many arguments and deaths. (Technically this is the barrow downs and we are all supposed to be dead and well...) Second question; There is no second question. i was going to put one, but i forgot what it was... You think of one... __________________ I think that if you want facts, then The Downer Newspaper is probably the place to go. I know! I read it once. THE PHANTOM AND ALIEN: The Legend of the Golden Bus Ticket...

07-22-2004, 09:08 AM	#4
davem Illustrious Ulair Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: In the home of lost causes, and forsaken beliefs, and unpopular names,and impossible loyalties Posts: 4,240	There's a nice interactive map of Beleriand here: http://users.cybercity.dk/%7Ebkb1782/tolkien/ (Listed as 'Details of Beleriand' - click on the left hand buttons, the links on the main page don't work) __________________ “Everything was an object. If you killed a dwarf you could use it as a weapon – it was no different to other large heavy objects."

07-22-2004, 10:28 AM	#5
Gil-Galad Psyche of Prince Immortal Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Above a Parapet Obvious exits are: North, South, and Dennis Posts: 4,733	Basically, where Lindon is, yo usee those mountains around it! those are teh blue mountains!where mithlond is that is one of the rivers of Ossiraind, so Beleriand was west of Middle Earth __________________ Love doesn't blow up and get killed.

07-31-2004, 12:18 PM	#6
The Perky Ent Maniacal Mage Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Setting sail for Umbar, with Firefoot at my side! Posts: 3,297	There's even some remains of Beleriand, apart from Lindon. Tol Fuin, Himling, and Tol Morwen are all mountains of Beleriand, that after the sinking became Islands. Much like how Meneltarma was with Numenor. And if you're deadly curious, go out and buy The Atlas of Middle Earth by Karen Wynn Fonstad. It's the best collection of Middle Earth maps there is. It even gives info about each place! __________________ 'But Melkor also was there, and he came to the house of Fëanor, and there he slew Finwë King of the Noldor before his doors, and spilled the first blood in the Blessed Realm; for Finwë alone had not fled from the horror of the Dark.'

07-22-2004, 07:57 AM	#3
drigel Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: commonplace city Posts: 518	that is a nicely drawn composite map though. A decent interpretation although i see a couple of minor errors. I could see how that could be confusing though