Wierd coincidences - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

eleanor_niphredil · 01-06-2003, 03:39 PM

I've just been reading The History of Midle-Earth 6- return of the shadow.In the first few versions of the chapter "A Long Expected Party", Tolkien names 4 seperate hobbits Orlando, and one Vigo.
Did no-one else realise this? How weird is that? It's not like they are popular names, less when LOTR was written.
I find it creepy.

LePetitChoux · 01-06-2003, 03:41 PM

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Wow. Any other coincidences?

I know one, the guy who did Sean Astin's feet was called Sean Foot! [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]

It's true!

eleanor_niphredil · 01-06-2003, 03:45 PM

I thought a name like Sean Bean was bad. think of the nicknames in school!

Horse-Maiden of the Shire · 01-06-2003, 04:37 PM

ya i knew about the Sean Foot thing, its on the extended edition eh? hmm i dont know about any other coincidences...

eleanor_niphredil · 01-07-2003, 01:15 PM

The one called Vigo eventualy became Pippin!

Pipperin · 01-07-2003, 09:18 PM

IM SO GLAD HE CHANGED HIS NAME TO PIPPIN!!!

eleanor_niphredil · 01-08-2003, 01:38 AM

Yeah, Vigo and Viggo could get confusing. If you think thats bad, Merry was marmaduke, sam was, well, Sam has always been sam, Frodo was Bingo Bolger-Baggins, Aragorn was Trotter and legolas was Galdor.

Anything but Arwen · 01-09-2003, 07:25 AM

I had another Arwen moment earlier....I was out riding (ok, ok, the horse wasnt all white but he had lots of white on him...) when was attacked by a black one, and had a ridiculously fast chase round a field...typical.... [img]smilies/evil.gif[/img]

Horse-Maiden of the Shire · 01-22-2003, 11:27 AM

MARMADUKE???????? Thats horrible!

FarathrimMaiden · 01-22-2003, 11:07 PM

I am so glad he changed Trotter to Strider...i have that book too, its awesome how much thought went into it.

Blue Elf · 01-22-2003, 11:21 PM

Not only was Aragorn named Trotter, his real name was Peregrin!!!!! (Perry for short though, not Pippin) and he wore wooden shoes to hide his mutilated feet. Really weird. Just imagine Arwen and Trotter...

Pippin went through a lot of names though, before he became Pippin. And the first black rider was originally Gandalf. (Not as in he was evil, but as in he came around in a black cloak sniffing...heheh)

That's a really weird coincidence though...if I see any, I'll put 'em here...

Oh, and Sean Bean is an unfair name. If Sean was pronounced the way it should be (in other words, pronounced the way it looks, like "seen") it would rhyme. But it doesn't. Hmph.

01-06-2003, 03:39 PM	#1
eleanor_niphredil Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: england Posts: 805	Wierd coincidences I've just been reading The History of Midle-Earth 6- return of the shadow.In the first few versions of the chapter "A Long Expected Party", Tolkien names 4 seperate hobbits Orlando, and one Vigo. Did no-one else realise this? How weird is that? It's not like they are popular names, less when LOTR was written. I find it creepy. __________________ Here I am, brain the size of a planet, and they ask me to spend my time on this forum. And by the way, for any of you turning into a penguin, stop it. ~* I am Pippin took in the Female Fellowship*~

01-06-2003, 03:41 PM	#2
LePetitChoux Vegetable of Doom Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: London Posts: 720	[img]smilies/eek.gif[/img] Wow. Any other coincidences? I know one, the guy who did Sean Astin's feet was called Sean Foot! [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] It's true! __________________ je suis une bonne odeur

01-06-2003, 03:45 PM	#3
eleanor_niphredil Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: england Posts: 805	I thought a name like Sean Bean was bad. think of the nicknames in school! __________________ Here I am, brain the size of a planet, and they ask me to spend my time on this forum. And by the way, for any of you turning into a penguin, stop it. ~* I am Pippin took in the Female Fellowship*~

01-06-2003, 04:37 PM	#4
Horse-Maiden of the Shire Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Chillaxin' with Glorfindel-441 miles on the RtR Posts: 1,197	ya i knew about the Sean Foot thing, its on the extended edition eh? hmm i dont know about any other coincidences... __________________ "There's a big...machine in the sky...some kind of electric snake...coming straight at us." "Shoot it," said my attorney. "Not yet...I want to study its habits."

01-07-2003, 01:15 PM	#5
eleanor_niphredil Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: england Posts: 805	The one called Vigo eventualy became Pippin! __________________ Here I am, brain the size of a planet, and they ask me to spend my time on this forum. And by the way, for any of you turning into a penguin, stop it. ~* I am Pippin took in the Female Fellowship*~

01-07-2003, 09:18 PM	#6
Pipperin Animated Skeleton Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: The Shire Posts: 25	IM SO GLAD HE CHANGED HIS NAME TO PIPPIN!!! __________________ ~Fool-of-a-took~

01-08-2003, 01:38 AM	#7
eleanor_niphredil Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: england Posts: 805	Yeah, Vigo and Viggo could get confusing. If you think thats bad, Merry was marmaduke, sam was, well, Sam has always been sam, Frodo was Bingo Bolger-Baggins, Aragorn was Trotter and legolas was Galdor. __________________ Here I am, brain the size of a planet, and they ask me to spend my time on this forum. And by the way, for any of you turning into a penguin, stop it. ~* I am Pippin took in the Female Fellowship*~

01-09-2003, 07:25 AM	#8
Anything but Arwen Wight Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: In my own little world. Its OK, they know me here. Posts: 230	I had another Arwen moment earlier....I was out riding (ok, ok, the horse wasnt all white but he had lots of white on him...) when was attacked by a black one, and had a ridiculously fast chase round a field...typical.... [img]smilies/evil.gif[/img] __________________ The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits! (Dontchya just love my avatar? I got a "Tickle Me Boromir" one too...

01-22-2003, 11:27 AM	#9
Horse-Maiden of the Shire Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Chillaxin' with Glorfindel-441 miles on the RtR Posts: 1,197	MARMADUKE???????? Thats horrible! __________________ "There's a big...machine in the sky...some kind of electric snake...coming straight at us." "Shoot it," said my attorney. "Not yet...I want to study its habits."

01-22-2003, 11:07 PM	#10
FarathrimMaiden Pile O'Bones Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Wandering the Shores of Middle-earth Posts: 21	I am so glad he changed Trotter to Strider...i have that book too, its awesome how much thought went into it. __________________ Not All Those Who Wander Are Lost. Frodo most certainly does live. "Will you look into my mirror?" "What will I see?"

01-22-2003, 11:21 PM	#11
Blue Elf Wight Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Gollum's cave Posts: 124	Not only was Aragorn named Trotter, his real name was Peregrin!!!!! (Perry for short though, not Pippin) and he wore wooden shoes to hide his mutilated feet. Really weird. Just imagine Arwen and Trotter... Pippin went through a lot of names though, before he became Pippin. And the first black rider was originally Gandalf. (Not as in he was evil, but as in he came around in a black cloak sniffing...heheh) That's a really weird coincidence though...if I see any, I'll put 'em here... Oh, and Sean Bean is an unfair name. If Sean was pronounced the way it should be (in other words, pronounced the way it looks, like "seen") it would rhyme. But it doesn't. Hmph. __________________ ...and when I conquer the world, you can be in charge of my ray gun!