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Voralphion · 10-24-2004, 08:02 PM

When I said overcome a valar, I meant Morgoth. I think in the doom of Mandos spoken to them as they were leaving, it mentions that they cannot overcome any of the valar in Arda, and it was arrogance to think they could.

Morgul Queen · 10-31-2004, 11:21 PM

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I think so... and I think that he would've given up the sils if his daddy wasn't killed by Morgy, by the way.

Morgy would like to take a moment to say that she had absolutle nothing to do with it, it was all Melkie's fault and that he relinquished that nickname to her after she offered her minionship to him after which he promtly got stuck with the nick 'Melkie'.

Sorry...my brain tends to take over sometimes...

And I, too, think he may have given up the Silmarilli had it not been for the Death of Finwe.

Of course, he didn't really have a choice in the matter as ol' Melkie had already run off with the Sparklies by this point so I guess it's moot, eh?

turgon · 11-02-2004, 12:04 PM

Moot? perhaps..yet it's when the wings of fantasy grasp my fallible mind I almost always find myself drifting across the timescape to the edges of valinor. floating thru the airs above the ocean I see the mingling lights of the trees just over the mountains as they fade a final time; the stars are enhanced where there was once light of the blessed realm as a mighty shadow of darkness passes to my right... woops sorry, lost myself.
Seriously, what I have been wondering in relation to Finwe and kiddies is how pivotal they were/are to the song of the Ainur.--

"But Iluvatar sat and hearkened until it seemed that about his throne there was a raging storm, as dark waters that made war one upon another in an endless wrath that would not be assuaged.
Then Iluvatar arose, and the Ainur perceived that he smiled; and he lifted up his left hand, and a new theme began amid the storm, like and yet unlike to the former theme, and it gathered power and had new beauty. But the discord of Melkor rose in uproar and contended with it, and again there was a war of sound, until many of the Ainur were dismayed and sang no longer, and Melkor had the mastery."...Ainulindale

Was the second theme of Iluvater the elves, specifically Feanor. In laymens terms was Feanor the lead guitar for Iluvater.

Morgul Queen · 11-02-2004, 09:02 PM

Heck, no! He was on the Drums. Melkie was on lead Guitar and started on an impromtu solo just when the Theme of the Elves started.

*bets it was an electric guitar*

Amrod the Hunter · 11-27-2004, 06:33 AM

Maybe it would destroy Men,but I personaly think that Valar would still chase Morgoth,because he was the greatest threat to them and to everything they created,so Men would get help.Of course,there still would be many victims,but I think Feanor would not die.

10-24-2004, 08:02 PM	#1
Voralphion Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Sharkey's End Posts: 267	When I said overcome a valar, I meant Morgoth. I think in the doom of Mandos spoken to them as they were leaving, it mentions that they cannot overcome any of the valar in Arda, and it was arrogance to think they could. __________________ His sword was long his lance was keen His shining helm afar was seen The countless stars of heavens field Were mirrored in his silver shield

11-02-2004, 12:04 PM	#3
turgon Haunting Spirit Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Annagroth Posts: 57	Moot? perhaps..yet it's when the wings of fantasy grasp my fallible mind I almost always find myself drifting across the timescape to the edges of valinor. floating thru the airs above the ocean I see the mingling lights of the trees just over the mountains as they fade a final time; the stars are enhanced where there was once light of the blessed realm as a mighty shadow of darkness passes to my right... woops sorry, lost myself. Seriously, what I have been wondering in relation to Finwe and kiddies is how pivotal they were/are to the song of the Ainur.-- "But Iluvatar sat and hearkened until it seemed that about his throne there was a raging storm, as dark waters that made war one upon another in an endless wrath that would not be assuaged. Then Iluvatar arose, and the Ainur perceived that he smiled; and he lifted up his left hand, and a new theme began amid the storm, like and yet unlike to the former theme, and it gathered power and had new beauty. But the discord of Melkor rose in uproar and contended with it, and again there was a war of sound, until many of the Ainur were dismayed and sang no longer, and Melkor had the mastery."...Ainulindale Was the second theme of Iluvater the elves, specifically Feanor. In laymens terms was Feanor the lead guitar for Iluvater. __________________ "What I have left behind I count now no loss, needless baggage on the road it has proved. Let those that cursed my name, curse me still, and whine their way back to the cages" " MIGHT IS RIGHT, DISSENT IS INTOLERABLE"

11-02-2004, 09:02 PM	#4
Morgul Queen Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Dontgonearthe Castle Posts: 414	Heck, no! He was on the Drums. Melkie was on lead Guitar and started on an impromtu solo just when the Theme of the Elves started. bets it was an electric guitar __________________ Athrabeth is still doing the wave for Boromir the Disco-King Oh...and call me Morgy!

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11-27-2004, 06:33 AM	#5
Amrod the Hunter Haunting Spirit Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Dol Amroth Posts: 54	Maybe it would destroy Men,but I personaly think that Valar would still chase Morgoth,because he was the greatest threat to them and to everything they created,so Men would get help.Of course,there still would be many victims,but I think Feanor would not die.