Do Balrogs Have Wings? - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

narfforc · 01-28-2005, 09:00 AM

Funny you say that, yes, like a red and blue thingy and headlights like bolts of lightning. No we shouldnt joke Saucepanman, this is serious. I am old enough to remember over 35 years of this argument, and all we ever achieve is gain new recruits to either side of the fence, rarely will anyone change their mind. To think this started 50yrs ago, over two sentences in LotR. My own personal view(And there is no basis for this), Is that like most of Tolkiens creations, no two were the same. This has led to speculation that, like most Maiar, they fell into different classes ie the most powerful being Gothmog, could one class have wings and another not, who knows.

01-28-2005, 02:41 PM

I don't know if this has been said before, but it's my reason for thinking that they don't have wings:

Lúthien was able to see Gondolin from the air after their rescue from Thangorodrim. Okay, Ancalagon was the first of the winged dragons, and he didn't show up till the War of Wrath. So... if there was some sort of creature who was really capable of long distance flight like the eagles, couldn't Morgoth have used them to find Gondolin? Especially after Hurín brilliantly half gave the location away?

Neithan · 01-28-2005, 03:02 PM

Morgoth had flying creatures (such as the vampires), but I believe it was the Eagles who kept them away from Gondolin.

HerenIstarion · 01-28-2005, 03:15 PM

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To think this started 50yrs ago

Think Gulliver. And eggs...

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01-28-2005, 03:02 PM	#3
Neithan Wight Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Michigan Posts: 126	Morgoth had flying creatures (such as the vampires), but I believe it was the Eagles who kept them away from Gondolin. __________________ If you would convince a man that he does wrong, do right. Men will believe what they see.~Henry David Thoreau

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01-28-2005, 09:00 AM	#1
narfforc Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Muddy-earth Posts: 1,297	Funny you say that, yes, like a red and blue thingy and headlights like bolts of lightning. No we shouldnt joke Saucepanman, this is serious. I am old enough to remember over 35 years of this argument, and all we ever achieve is gain new recruits to either side of the fence, rarely will anyone change their mind. To think this started 50yrs ago, over two sentences in LotR. My own personal view(And there is no basis for this), Is that like most of Tolkiens creations, no two were the same. This has led to speculation that, like most Maiar, they fell into different classes ie the most powerful being Gothmog, could one class have wings and another not, who knows.

01-28-2005, 02:41 PM	#2
Elemmírë Guest Posts: n/a	I don't know if this has been said before, but it's my reason for thinking that they don't have wings: Lúthien was able to see Gondolin from the air after their rescue from Thangorodrim. Okay, Ancalagon was the first of the winged dragons, and he didn't show up till the War of Wrath. So... if there was some sort of creature who was really capable of long distance flight like the eagles, couldn't Morgoth have used them to find Gondolin? Especially after Hurín brilliantly half gave the location away?