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Old 09-30-2005, 03:24 AM   #1
lathspell
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Narya Two questions?

If I understand correctly, Rune Son of Bjarne, you wonder about to things and those are mixed up a bit:
1. How come the Elves never found a way to kill Glaurung?
2. Why did the Dwarves manage to drive Glaurung of the battlefield where the Elves could not?

I think that the answer to your first question is, I believe, fairly simple. Glaurung, as father of dragons, had the same protection as others. That means he had the same hard scales as, for example, Smaug. The only problem that those dragons had was their soft belly. Glaurung probably had the same soft spot, as we see when Turin finally slays him. Glaurung however couldn't fly, so his 'soft spot' was never revealed. His armour kept him alive. The only time that someone managed to see his belly, it was fatal for Glaurung.

The answer to your second question is, as is already said, that Aulë maid the Dwarves in the dark times of the world. Therefore he maid them strong, stout en far more resistant to fire, corruption and I believe even magic (the seven Rings of Power, for example) than any other race. With this natural advantage comes the fact that the Dwarves made armour that Elves could not rival.
With these two added the Dwarves were far more resistant to Glaurung than any other, save perhaps the most powerful Elves and Men. I think that this is the reason that the Dwarves managed to drive him off, being harder to destroy than the others, but the Dwarves couldn't kill him. They didn't manage to get through his armour, just as the Dwarves of Erebor could'n't pierce the armour of Smaug.

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Old 10-01-2005, 07:58 AM   #2
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Boots Are Elves stupid?

Yes. They are also very stuck up.

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Yeah i was thinking of the fall of Nargothrond.
Turin was able to survive that encounter because Glaurung was using Turin for his own amusement. He did not want to burn Turin to ash. The dwarf mask seems to have helped Turin avoid the dragon spell a bit (I suspect because he couldn't see the dragon's eyes as well and not because of some "magic" in the helmet.)

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And as i said earlyer thy saw how well the dwarves armour worked (compared to others) then why not try to copy it ?
Well, actually, a lot of the armor the elves wore was made by the dwarves. Or at least a lot of the armor of the Elves of Doriath. I'm not so sure about Nargothrond since it was a "hidden" kingdom. However, the dwarves built the place so it would not have been hidden from them.

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I think that this is the reason that the Dwarves managed to drive him off, being harder to destroy than the others, but the Dwarves couldn't kill him. They didn't manage to get through his armour, just as the Dwarves of Erebor could'n't pierce the armour of Smaug.
Actually that is not true. The dwarf axes did wound Glaurung, and when he struck down Azaghal and climbed on the body, Azaghal wounded him so badly in the stomach that Glaurung ran off screaming for his mommy.

I think the dwarves just had a built in advantage in that they were harder to set on fire, and fire is the dragon's primary weapon.
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