Where is everyone from?? - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Lalwendë · 04-16-2006, 05:23 AM

Strangely enough, there probably were a lot of woods at one time all the way up and down the Lancashire coast - this will have been a long time ago. They ran up to the edges of the meres, and when they fell, they went into the waters which would shift in size and shape many times over the centuries. That's where all the Bog Oaks come from that break the ploughs. Fleetwood is at the Northern end of one of the old meres that have long since been drained away.

The story about the Hesketh family might be right though, as they also had much to do with building Southport, being the big landowning family, and there's also Hesketh Bank - about 15 miles as the bird flies from Fleetwood but about 50 by car! There's also Fleet Street, the locals' name for the road from Ormskirk to Southport.

Sorry, bit of a pet subject there...much to davem's horror, him being a sinister tyke.

Hookbill the Goomba · 04-16-2006, 06:10 AM

Interesting that you mention all this, Lal. I was born in Southport, and lived in Hesketh Bank for my early years.

Apparently, if you are born in Southport you are known as a 'sand-grounder', this has always confused me, seeing as the majority of the ground is concrete and the beech is always flooded. Or at least, it is whenever I go there.

Anyway, I hope that was on topic just about, seeing as it’s kind of about where I'm from...

Lalwendë · 04-16-2006, 06:50 AM

A lot of Southport is built on sandbanks and much of the rest of it on reclaimed land. Some of the houses were built on 'rafts'. I used to remember a lot of houses that were at crazy angles where the foundations had slowly sunk into the marshland! The beach has changed a lot since they stopped doing so much dredging in the Ribble, so they have a tide that actually comes up to the sea wall nowadays!

Yes, it's on topic as it's where I come from too! Though I am in exile across the Pennines.

narfforc · 04-16-2006, 09:42 AM

OHHHHHHHHHHH GOD, I'm living on a sandbank, didn't that Hesketh Geezer hear of Global Warming, can anyone tell me where the nearest Terra Firma is, I'm having a Atlantis/Numenore moment here ......................................Argh splash!

Amanaduial the archer · 04-19-2006, 05:02 PM

Ok, you're all banned from moving. Ever.

The list is once more updated: I will put it into a more reader-friendly form at some point, and possibly arrange it alphabetically for easier browsing - but hey, for the moment, you all know how to use cntl+F, right?

Macalaure: well good!

JennyHallu: I'm guessing you mean Augusta, Georgia, USA? Checked it with that found of knowledge that is Google, but if you are actually from the country Georgia, do say and sorry

EDIT: Ha! There, a rather better aligned version. Better, I hope, although it doesn't translate particularly well from Word onto the text box here...

EDIT #2: See post 695 for the newly updated list; kinda messy to have two on the same page.

Amanaduial the archer · 04-20-2006, 03:46 PM

Leading on from Macalaure's post, I got to a-thunkin' over the United States: sure, maybe they don't (surprisingly!) measure up on a world scale with the number of Downers per million, but as we nonetheless command nearly 200 alone on this list, I wondered which states were the most Barrow-friendly...

Washington – 7 – 5,894,121 = 1.187
Utah – 7 – 2,233,169 = 3.134
Texas – 23 – 20,851,820 = 1.103
South Dakota – 1 – 754,844 = 1.324
Rhode Island – 3 – 1,048,319 = 2.861
New Hampshire – 2 - 1,235,786 = 1.626
Nebraska – 3 - 1,711,263 = 1.753
Minnesota – 5 - 4,919,479 = 1.016
Massachusetts – 10 - 6,349,097 = 1.575
Idaho – 4 - 1,293,953 = 3.091
Alaska – 2 - 626,932 = 3.190
Alabama – 5 - 4,447,100 = 1.124.

Out of our 3- represented states, 12 have more than '1 downer per million', and the grand winner, the most Barrowdowner-populated state was....Alaska?! Well, they don't even reach the 1million mark for total population, but theoretically manages 3(.190) downers per million - congratulations, Alaska! *cheesy smiles as a bouquet of flowers is handed out to...*

Ah. Problem: Alaska actually has no active members at the moment...

And so, in the absence of any active Alaskans, I hereby award the much covetted *cough* prize for 'Most Barrow-friendly State' to mormegil, as he is really the most active of the members from Utah, which wins 2nd prize. Wooh, come to Utah: a high(ish) percentage, not only of mormons, but of Barrowdowners too! And Idaho are out most gracious runners up in 3rd place...*smattering of applause*

Celuien · 04-20-2006, 04:04 PM

I'm from Pennsylvania. Philadelphia, to be more precise.

04-16-2006, 05:23 AM	#1
Lalwendë A Mere Boggart Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: under the bed Posts: 4,737	Strangely enough, there probably were a lot of woods at one time all the way up and down the Lancashire coast - this will have been a long time ago. They ran up to the edges of the meres, and when they fell, they went into the waters which would shift in size and shape many times over the centuries. That's where all the Bog Oaks come from that break the ploughs. Fleetwood is at the Northern end of one of the old meres that have long since been drained away. The story about the Hesketh family might be right though, as they also had much to do with building Southport, being the big landowning family, and there's also Hesketh Bank - about 15 miles as the bird flies from Fleetwood but about 50 by car! There's also Fleet Street, the locals' name for the road from Ormskirk to Southport. Sorry, bit of a pet subject there...much to davem's horror, him being a sinister tyke. __________________ Gordon's alive!

04-16-2006, 06:50 AM	#3
Lalwendë A Mere Boggart Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: under the bed Posts: 4,737	A lot of Southport is built on sandbanks and much of the rest of it on reclaimed land. Some of the houses were built on 'rafts'. I used to remember a lot of houses that were at crazy angles where the foundations had slowly sunk into the marshland! The beach has changed a lot since they stopped doing so much dredging in the Ribble, so they have a tide that actually comes up to the sea wall nowadays! Yes, it's on topic as it's where I come from too! Though I am in exile across the Pennines. __________________ Gordon's alive!

04-16-2006, 09:42 AM	#4
narfforc Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Muddy-earth Posts: 1,297	The Alackabath or Atollslanted, The Downsizing of Fleetmere OHHHHHHHHHHH GOD, I'm living on a sandbank, didn't that Hesketh Geezer hear of Global Warming, can anyone tell me where the nearest Terra Firma is, I'm having a Atlantis/Numenore moment here ......................................Argh splash! __________________ [B]THE LORD OF THE GRINS:THE ONE PARODY....A PARODY BETTER THAN THE RINGS OF POWER.

04-19-2006, 05:02 PM	#5
Amanaduial the archer Shadow of Starlight Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: dancing among the ledgerlines... Posts: 2,347	Ok, you're all banned from moving. Ever. The list is once more updated: I will put it into a more reader-friendly form at some point, and possibly arrange it alphabetically for easier browsing - but hey, for the moment, you all know how to use cntl+F, right? Macalaure: well good! JennyHallu: I'm guessing you mean Augusta, Georgia, USA? Checked it with that found of knowledge that is Google, but if you are actually from the country Georgia, do say and sorry EDIT: Ha! There, a rather better aligned version. Better, I hope, although it doesn't translate particularly well from Word onto the text box here... EDIT #2: See post 695 for the newly updated list; kinda messy to have two on the same page. __________________ I am what I was, a harmless little devil Last edited by Amanaduial the archer; 04-21-2006 at 04:51 AM.

04-20-2006, 03:46 PM	#6
Amanaduial the archer Shadow of Starlight Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: dancing among the ledgerlines... Posts: 2,347	Leading on from Macalaure's post, I got to a-thunkin' over the United States: sure, maybe they don't (surprisingly!) measure up on a world scale with the number of Downers per million, but as we nonetheless command nearly 200 alone on this list, I wondered which states were the most Barrow-friendly... Washington – 7 – 5,894,121 = 1.187 Utah – 7 – 2,233,169 = 3.134 Texas – 23 – 20,851,820 = 1.103 South Dakota – 1 – 754,844 = 1.324 Rhode Island – 3 – 1,048,319 = 2.861 New Hampshire – 2 - 1,235,786 = 1.626 Nebraska – 3 - 1,711,263 = 1.753 Minnesota – 5 - 4,919,479 = 1.016 Massachusetts – 10 - 6,349,097 = 1.575 Idaho – 4 - 1,293,953 = 3.091 Alaska – 2 - 626,932 = 3.190 Alabama – 5 - 4,447,100 = 1.124. Out of our 3- represented states, 12 have more than '1 downer per million', and the grand winner, the most Barrowdowner-populated state was....Alaska?! Well, they don't even reach the 1million mark for total population, but theoretically manages 3(.190) downers per million - congratulations, Alaska! cheesy smiles as a bouquet of flowers is handed out to... Ah. Problem: Alaska actually has no active members at the moment... And so, in the absence of any active Alaskans, I hereby award the much covetted cough prize for 'Most Barrow-friendly State' to mormegil, as he is really the most active of the members from Utah, which wins 2nd prize. Wooh, come to Utah: a high(ish) percentage, not only of mormons, but of Barrowdowners too! And Idaho are out most gracious runners up in 3rd place...smattering of applause __________________ I am what I was, a harmless little devil

04-16-2006, 06:10 AM	#2
Hookbill the Goomba Alive without breath Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: On A Cold Wind To Valhalla Posts: 5,912	Interesting that you mention all this, Lal. I was born in Southport, and lived in Hesketh Bank for my early years. Apparently, if you are born in Southport you are known as a 'sand-grounder', this has always confused me, seeing as the majority of the ground is concrete and the beech is always flooded. Or at least, it is whenever I go there. Anyway, I hope that was on topic just about, seeing as it’s kind of about where I'm from... __________________ I think that if you want facts, then The Downer Newspaper is probably the place to go. I know! I read it once. THE PHANTOM AND ALIEN: The Legend of the Golden Bus Ticket...

04-20-2006, 04:04 PM	#7
Celuien Riveting Ribbiter Join Date: May 2005 Location: Assigned to Mordor Posts: 1,767	I'm from Pennsylvania. Philadelphia, to be more precise. __________________ People assume that time is a strict progression of cause to effect. But actually, from a non-linear, non-subjective viewpoint, it's more like a big ball of wibbly-wobbly, timey-wimey... stuff.

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