WW XXIIX - Queer Lodgings

[Volo]

Well, I feel like you Finns can be trusted, do as you see right. I'd suggest Eomi or Gloanna, Balth just doesn't feel as confusing and might be of more help...


EDIT: X:d with three posts.

[Oddwen]

VOTING IS CLOSED

death to follow shortly

[Oddwen]

The first day of their quarantine was awkward, as most first days are. Brother turned against brother, sister against sister, sister against brother, brother against sister, dwarf against hobbit, hobbit against dwarf, dwarf against wizard, wizard against hobbit, hobbit against wizard, wizard against dwarf, and the skinchanger accidentally accused herself in the confusion.

In the end, it was decided that a dwarf should die; Eomi, brother of Nari, kinsman of Thorin Anguirelshield.

"But I don't want to die," he protested.

"But you have to," the others told him. "It's The Rules."

"Sister, would you let me die?" he pleaded with Nari.

"Yes," she said. "I have to."

"Fear not kinsman," consoled Thorin. "I shall not let a son of my brother die by any lesser hand."

So saying, they knelt him onto a stump-seat for beheading.

Thorin lifted his gigantic magnificent axe, and with a cry of "Khazad ai menû!" let it fall against Eomi's hairy neck. His head, by some chance, did not roll or lay facedown, but stood upright blinking surprisedly and looking about it.

"Eww!" said some. "Cool!" said others. Some ran outside to be sick.

"If I had use of my arms," the head mouthed. "I'd flip you off." Then the eyes closed for the last time, and stood still.

Nothing happened.


Nothing happened again.


Nothing continued to happen.


"Well," said the dwarves furiously. "Now there's one less dwarf around!"

They buried Eomi under some very pretty looking striped rock that they found nearby, and his grave stood there for some ages, until the breaking of the world.

Living:

Beornomien
Valier the Grey
Meneltarbo Baggins
Thorin Angurielsheild
Kathin
dwancing spawn of fundin
Gloanna
Voloin
Dori88
Runi son of Bjarne
Orilin
Nari
Bifur Fegalund
Bofgrod
Bomburlass
Farael the Deathless


Dead:

Eomi of the Rohirrim (innocent), beheaded on DAY ONE.


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DAY one is now ended, NIGHT two has begun.
Wolves may PM, Twins please to stop.
I please need names from the Seer, Wolves, Hunter, and Protector.

[Oddwen]

They awoke next morning early and looked around fearfully. What had the Wolves been up to in the night?

They discovered their answer in the beheaded body of dwancing spawn of fundin. Nari screamed and threw herself upon the body.

"No no no!" she cried. "No! O dwancing, my sister!"

"But," they all muttered. "Shouldn't she be mourning her brother, Eomi?"

But no, Nari kept cradling the headless body of dwancing, and sobbing. Suddenly, she stood up.

"Without my sister," she said. "What else is there?" She drew her axe out of her belt, and threw herself onto it. They all jumped too late to save her, and she smiled as she drew her last breath.

"Drat it all," muttered Valier the Grey. "Now we've lost our decidedly sherriff-like twins. We must do something about catching a wolf."

They buried dwancing and Nari under the same cairn, and started deliberating.


Living:
Beornomien
Valier the Grey
Meneltarbo Baggins
Thorin Angurielsheild
Kathin
Gloanna
Voloin
Dori88
Runi son of Bjarne
Orilin
Bifur Fegalund
Bofgrod
Bomburlass
Farael the Deathless


Dead:
Eomi of the Rohirrim (Innocent), beheaded on DAY one
dwancing spawn of fundin (Twin), beheaded on NIGHT two
Nari (Twin), died of sorrow on NIGHT two

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NIGHT under NIGHT is flown, and DAY two is open. Wolves please stop PMing.

[Rune Son of Bjarne]

I see that I made a mistake, I thought Thorin said he would probably vote Durelin not Durin and therefor was convinced that the votes would be spread even more. Which they were, but for different reasons.

Nogrod is starting to puzzle me. . .He questions why I point out Menel as innocent and not anybody else. Is it not clear, Menel was the only one I could really relate to. Other people might say things that makes sense, but what Menel said was something that made sense and very like my own thoughts and way of reasoning.

Then there is the whole voting Eomi thing, seriously that was weird. Nogrod pays absolutely no attention to Eomi, until after I mention him and Eomi him self post again.

Originally Posted by Nogrod

You're quite right. I'd say quite right. All behaviour can be constructed as Wolf behaviour, on all Days - not only on Day1. But that doesn't mean that we only get wolves by chance - even on Day1. I've seen a wolf picked on Day1 with perfectly sound reasoning a couple of times.

Somewhat true, but it is always easier to claim things wolfish on day 1. The following days there will be certain actions that can talk against one being a wolf. And I am sorry to say this, but I am a firm believer that in most cases it is chance when a wolf is caught. I have often heard tales of wolves being lynched for doing the exact same as an Innocent would have done.

Then I guess I am used to not relate to what Nogrod says at all and now it seem that he is suspecting the same people as me. . .I my self was uneasy about Eomi, but decided that I wanted to wait with lynching him.

[Boromir88]

I was thinking the same Runi, the last minute voting and train for Eomi looks all too wolvish.

I came back and saw Eomi was the one lynched and had the same reaction as Anguirelshield...why? I was strong against Anguirelshield yesterday, as at first I was getting all caught up in the moment...I honestly wanted Gloanna lynched (and still do). Then I realized no matter what Anguirelshield always votes for me on Day 1...I have no idea why, but any village my ancestors have been in with Anguirelshield, they always get his vote on Day 1. No clue why.

Spawn, Voloin, and Beornomien seemed to be the followers of the Eomi wagon and Bofgrod the ring-leader. Of those 3 people still here, I wouldn't doubt it if one was a wolf. Voloin and Bofgrod look the most suspicious...something Voloin said just doesn't sit right with me:

Why would she be frequent to read and not even vote, this might be a small matter on day1, but I don't like it...

I do happen to agree that if Valier was around and could read what was going on she should have voted. If she wasn't around a lot, and if she couldn't read everything to come to at least a semi-informed decision than I think not-voting was the best. Total random voting doesn't sit right with me, and if Valier would have just popped in without reading the situation and voted, that wouldn't have sit right with me. However, Valier if you were around and were keeping up, you should have voted.

Anyway, this comment by Voloin doesn't sit right with me. He makes a comment that would appear to be helpful, one an innocent would make. But it just feels like he's trying to hard to be helpful, he's trying to hard to appear innocent, by pointing out things like that and claiming he 'doesn't like it.'

Bofgrod was the ring-leader of Eomi's lynching yesterday and that is no doubt what a wolf Bofgrod is capable of doing. I don't like the lynching of Eomi yesterday, and I think he who led it all is fanged! It's also clever that he votes to leave the decision up to Spawn and Beornomien. It's like he wanted to stay out of the last votes and be accused of being the one who got Eomi lynched. So he plays it safe, makes an awkward case against Eomi, ties it up, and makes Spawn and Beornomien come up with the decision...very crafty move if he be a wolf. To me, when innocent, Bofgrod has always wanted to take the initiative and wouldn't shy away from making tough decisions...here he plays it safe and makes Spawn and Beornomien do the tough decision making.

Beornomien seems more like a vote of an innocent. She had to reach a decision there as she was put in such a position. I'm inclined to believe of the remaining Eomi voters, Beornomien is innocent.

[Holbytlass]

Eomer --> Spawn
Kitanna --> Naria
Durelin --> Rune
Naria --> Kitanna
Kath --> Farael
Rune --> Farael (Spawn1, Naria1, Rune1, Kitanna1, Farael2)
Menel -->Kath (Spawn1, Naria1, Rune1, Kitanna1, Farael2, Kath1)
Holby --> Spawn (Spawn2, Naria1, Rune1, Kitanna1, Farael2, Kath1)
Anguirel --> Boro (Spawn2, Naria1, Rune1, Kitanna1, Farael2, Kath1, Boro1)
Boro --> Kitanna (Spawn2, Naria1, Rune1, Kitanna2, Farael2, Kath1, Boro1)
Volo-->Eomi (Spawn2, Naria1, Rune1, Kitanna2, Farael2, Kath1, Boro1,Eomi1)
Nogrod-->Eomi(Spawn2, Naria1, Rune1, Kitanna2, Farael2, Kath1, Boro1,Eomi2)
Spawn-->Eomi(Spawn2, Naria1, Rune1, Kitanna2, Farael2, Kath1, Boro1,Eomi3)
Lommy-->Eomi(Spawn2, Naria1, Rune1, Kitanna2, Farael2, Kath1, Boro1,Eomi4)

No vote Nilp Valier

Originally Posted by Boro

Beornomien seems more like a vote of an innocent. She had to reach a decision there as she was put in such a position. I'm inclined to believe of the remaining Eomi voters, Beornomien is innocent.

I don't quite agree with you there. She agrees with the points made by Nogrod about eomer(77) then states that says she'll vote for either Kitanna or Kath(82)then changes her position on them(91) cross posted with Spawn's voting.
It's understandable that Spawn was waiting till the last possible moment, she was part of the tye and would want to save herself. Lommy comes across as a bit flipfloppish maybe trying to stick around because a fellow wolf may hve also been part of that tye.

[Valier]

Well Boro I was planning to be around reading yesterday, but good old nyquil kept me good and drugged. I am feeling slightly better today and I will have time to read, participate and vote. My no vote was perhaps for the best? I completely forgot about ww in my sickly state.

[Nogrod]

Originally Posted by Boromir88

I was thinking the same Runi, the last minute voting and train for Eomi looks all too wolvish.
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Bofgrod was the ring-leader of Eomi's lynching yesterday and that is no doubt what a wolf Bofgrod is capable of doing. I don't like the lynching of Eomi yesterday, and I think he who led it all is fanged! It's also clever that he votes to leave the decision up to Spawn and Beornomien. It's like he wanted to stay out of the last votes and be accused of being the one who got Eomi lynched. So he plays it safe, makes an awkward case against Eomi, ties it up, and makes Spawn and Beornomien come up with the decision...very crafty move if he be a wolf.

So a ring-leader! That's nice of you.

But really, give me one decent reason why any wolf would have wished to kill Eomi instead of someone else? It's all nice rhetorics Nori88, but lacks any decent motivation behind those "clever votes" or "ring-leading" my wolf-ancestors might have been "capable" of doing.

Why on earth would a wolf care who gets lynched in the first place? If it's an innocent, whoever, that's good. If a wolf's mate is near lynch, a crafty wolf kills his mate and gets the bonus of being a good guy instead of trying to play brave fellow-helper and risk getting both of them killed.

Originally Posted by Nori88

To me, when innocent, Bofgrod has always wanted to take the initiative and wouldn't shy away from making tough decisions...here he plays it safe and makes Spawn and Beornomien do the tough decision making.

Nori88 has got quite an interesting logic indeed. First he accuses me of being the ring-leader and then on the next sentence he says I didn't take the initiative. Now which way should we read this?

Just to tell you what happened. I had suspicions of three people late in the game yesterDay, reasons for which I've gave accounts then and won't repeat them here. When it started to look that there would be four people voting (half an hour before the deadline, about) the situation with those three was Glóanna2, Kathin1, Eomi0 - added with Spawn and Durin both in 2.

With four votes left it was anybody's game here. I shared the angst with Beornómien. I had no way of saying which one of the three looked most wolvish. I tried to ask whether anyone else thought Eomi suspicious (or should we choose from Glóanna and Kathin) to not "waste" my vote on someone who hadn't gather any votes yet. But as Volo voted Eomi, I thought it a good situation to make the voting-ground more even (resulting in Glóanna2, Eomi2, Kathin1). I voted three minutes before the deadline. Indeed thinking that it would be a relief not to be forced to make the very last decision everytime I'm around at deadline. And my relief was even greater when I noticed that both Beornómien and Spawn voted similarily as that meant that some others shared my worry about Eomi and we kind of lynched him together. Unfortunately we were all wrong with him...

Talking of voting safe now as we started... Nori88 voted about an half an hour before the deadline making the exact same thing I did, raising one person (Glóanna) even to the lead. Now should I interpret this as him being crafty and leaving the tough decision-making to others? I surely know wolf-Nori88 is perfectly capable of doping that!

I mean: which one of us was in a tougher position to vote and which one of us played it safe, not bearing the burden of tough decisions? Just asking...

Were I a wolf, I would have voted early enough, safely based on some of my earlier suspicions to look logical and just stayed away from discussion the last hour or a half.

Okay. Enough of this.

[Volo]

Not a good start... I really felt that Eomi was the wolf, just look at his last post + Nogfur's post here, there is a good point about Eomi's vote, which is suspicious...

That plus the death of our twins is depressing. I already miss Spawlin's analyzes. In the end she decided not to use her analyzes... At least something good in this is that now we know that the twins (and probably wolves) aren't chosen by rhyming names.

At such a loss, I find Duriel more suspicious, though his wolfishness would mean that the louder people are guilty.

Because of the above I feel that Balth is innocent, her post seems truthful.
Runi I won't vote either, he does contribute much more than in my earlier games with him. His suspicion of Eomi is a mistake, but I'm the last one who can blame for that, except for the fact that it was probably Runi who started seriously talking about Eomi being guilty, here. I wouldn't go as far as voting him, Duriel just is scarier.

On Runi's newest post:

Originally Posted by Runi

Then there is the whole voting Eomi thing, seriously that was weird. Nogrod pays absolutely no attention to Eomi, until after I mention him and Eomi him self post again.

Yes, I find you making a good point mentioning Eomi. Actually I feel that I'm the only one who doesn't find Nogfur so suspicous... for once. Every time I find him suspicious he turns out good, so it might be better if I did suspect him, but I can't.
He does point out the reasons to vote people pretty clearly. And Dorimor, here is the first post of suspicion towards Gitalóinna.

Dorimor, should I just stay quiet? Because I am trying to point out some things that have left unnoticed, unnoticed openly, you might have noticed them, but other's haven't. And it's natural to follow somebody who makes sense to you, I think there was enough reason to vote Eomi yesterday.


X:d with Holby and Valier

[Volo]

On Thilórn.

First post (late, but Lommy doesn't have internet at home, so let's pass that): Nothing interesting, a few opinions on other players without "points".
Second post: Indeed, Balth had little reason to say that Thilórn made good points in her post, as she didn't. I can't deside what to think of this, since to me Balth's post (here by the way) does seem to be reasonable, except for the Thilórn part. It doesn't feel like Balth tries to impress Thilórn with big cute blue eyes...

Third post:
I don't find anything strange agreeing with Bofgrod.
But the part about Gitalóinna is stranger, if Gitalóinna is a skilled player then a change of style might be a good way to cast off suspicion, true, this time it was a really bad idea if she's innocent.
The only really strange part about Milbo Meggins's vote is that he actually voted for Balth. But Thilórn doesn't go too hard on Milbo so nothing I can really say.

Fourth post: (Naria IS a charming personality.) This one is covered as Firlia commited suicide. The only thing that bothers me is Thilórn willing to vote Balth, isn't that contradictory?

Fifth post: A joke.

Sixth post: ...and still she votes Eomi... Strange to me that Thilórn suspects Balth so strongly, as she has only her one weak point against her, unless Thilórn has seen visions...

Seventh post: Doesn't know who to vote. Not strange as many were (and still are) suspicious.

Eighth post: Votes Eomi as Gitalóinna has contributed more.

I don't know what to think about Thilórn, she has made that one point she so strongly kept to, until her vote. She has talked quite a lot. Not too aggressive. I don't know, she doesn't scream wolf, but neither is she too innocentish. More like a skilled wolf...


EDIT: X:d with Holbytlass and Kath