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Old 01-09-2007, 07:53 AM   #1
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One thing in Kath's behaviour rings my alarms.
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. . . though the one [post] she [Lommy] has made had good points in it . . .
Really. That sounds very much like a wolfish "I-say-something-good-of-someone-just-for-the-sake-of-saying-good-of-somebody" -comment, since if you take a closer look at my post, what "good points" I can possibly have there? Those were the few first things crossing my mind after reading the thread. The post consist of crying over dead animals, ridiculing rhyme-patterns, making some jokes/corrections about bears and penguins, making one point (though not even a very incrimintaing one) against Nogrod, agreeing about Kitanna seeming suspicious without adding anything new about her, naming a few innocentish people and forbidding people to steal honey. What on earth are the "good points" over there, I wonder.
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Old 01-09-2007, 07:58 AM   #2
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One thing in Kath's behaviour rings my alarms. Really. That sounds very much like a wolfish "I-say-something-good-of-someone-just-for-the-sake-of-saying-good-of-somebody" -comment, since if you take a closer look at my post, what "good points" I can possibly have there? ... What on earth are the "good points" over there, I wonder.
I totally agree with you Lommy! A good point, this time!
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Old 01-09-2007, 08:08 AM   #3
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Hmmm. I like the psychological family dynamics going on here...

Runi was actually mistaken in thinking I was on the verge of voting for Orilin, but the option is becoming more tempting now...

And she voted for Runi on specious grounds. Was Runi actually consciously acting against her indirectly?

Bomburlass also suspected Orilin early on. Spawn of Fundin suspects her, but not so adamantly as she does Gloanna.

On the whole I think wolves will be unlikely to be backing each other's suspicions up at this stage. I don't think I would were I a wolf, anyway.

Tricky as ever.
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Old 01-09-2007, 08:26 AM   #4
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As long as our Seer is alive and well, I wouldn’t like to see Dori88 lynched as he can really make a difference when he’s a goodie. The same I would like to say of Spawn of Fundin. Her abilities in analysing are a powerful weapon if used for good. Beornómien also seems to be gearing up and that looks good. Also I would like to have Thorin Anguirelshild with us. His reluctance to vote for Durin after he gained a second vote speaks innocence to me. A wolf might say that, but I doubt a wolf would be so quick to run for that kind of bluff.

I have suspected Glóanna and still do somewhat. Beornómien's point about Kathin was well pointed and raised my suspicions on her a lot. Funny also, that Kathin indeed tried to smootlhy downplay Glóanna's guilt (saying she's suspecting her, but still bringing forwards the possibility of her being just an innocent villager - with some good points indeed). Now Kathin woulde be a wolf with lots of experience and capability to do many tricks and still stay cool. And at that time there clearly was something like a real pressure growing over Glóanna...

It might be a pair of wolves? But at least another one of them I'm inclined to believe is one.

Then I'm pretty unsettled with Orilin and Eomi. Both have been extremely careful. A bit too careful to my taste. I have made a few notes about Eomi just earlier and will take a look at Orilin soon to see if I can add anything of value that has not been said already.

With others I'm quite at loss with...
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Old 01-09-2007, 08:44 AM   #5
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Bofgrod, you have good points about Eomi. He seems indeed a bit fishy, now that you've pointed it out.

I don't know what to think of Glóanna. She surely is suspicious. But. According to my experience, as a wolf she is quite careful and skilled, and is not easily caught (like Anguirelshield pointed out). Why would she act this "foolishly" this time then? But even as an innocent it wouldn't make sense to be that jumpy and contradictory... I also very much agree with dwancing spawn, who said:
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Meneltarbo's vote was a bit odd. It was too sudden. He had not suspected Kathin before. Then he just based his vote on dwancing spawn's and my points about her, without even bothering to specify which "from what was said earlier" made him vote her. I think he was just going with the majority; many people have suspected Kathin, at least slightly, recently. That really makes me uneasy. Yet I wonder would a wolf be this careless after all...

edit: xed with Volo and Ang
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Old 01-09-2007, 08:48 AM   #6
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Oh, and Dwancing Spawn of Fundin, you're right. I'm not on top form today. I'm doing several things at the same time; plotting to defeat dragons, fighting Werewolves, writing a biography of my grandfather Thror, composing a new single, working title Dreaming of Erebor...
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Old 01-09-2007, 08:58 AM   #7
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Thoringuriel, I don't like your vote... Dorimor is contributing and isn't suspicious enough to be lynched on day1, he does feel too mysterious... More on him later.
I don't like your vote...

Gloanna is too aggressive without being aggressive, she is added to the list, of many, I guess.

Another name I feel evil is Filia, she hasn't said anything interesting, except that she doesn't trust Duriel. Her vote for Gloanna came straight after Dancing Dwalin's post about Gloanna. As if they're a team... And by looking at Filia's post times, she seems to have had enough time to contribute more.


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Old 01-09-2007, 08:54 AM   #8
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Would she be totally random in which GloKit would have a 1/17 chance of being a wolf just like the rest of us or would she tweak the roles for evil amusemsent? We can't know now.~Bomburlass
Well if all villages are completely random, then the outcome of the prior villages have no bearing on the outcome of the current one. Just ask Rosencrantz and Guildenstern and their flipping of the coin. If a coin lands heads 7 times in a row what are the chances that the 8th flip would be a heads? Still 50/50, as the coin doesn't think jee I landed heads 7 times in a row, better do tails now.

Seems to be rather a safe vote for Lord Anguirelshield to make...I'll make a mental note of that as well.

Well see Beornomien, my logic always goes as follow if I think it:
Looks like a wolf
acts like a wolf
smells like a wolf
chances are it's a wolf.

We're always too busy now thinking about double-bluffs and a wolf wouldn't be so obvious, some of the greatest wolves are the most obvious ones! I'm reminded of Alcarillo's amazing performance in a game. Where throughout the entire game everyone was saying Alcarillo was a wolf, but he just looks too obvious and because we kept convincing ourselves he looked to obvious to be a wolf, he won it for the wolves.

On Day 1, I go by who looks like a wolf...don't give me all this other stuff about double-bluffing and 'too obvious to be a wolf.' Meaning, I don't by Anguirelshield's argument and if Gloanna looks obviously like a wolf, on Day 1 I'm going to go with that...

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Old 01-09-2007, 09:01 AM   #9
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Okay. I think it's about time for an upgrade...

Eomer --> Spawn
Kitanna --> Naria
Durelin --> Rune
Naria --> Kitanna
Kath --> Farael
Rune --> Farael (Spawn1, Naria1, Rune1, Kitanna1, Farael2)
Menel -->Kath (Spawn1, Naria1, Rune1, Kitanna1, Farael2, Kath1)
Holby --> Spawn (Spawn2, Naria1, Rune1, Kitanna1, Farael2, Kath1)
Anguirel --> Boro (Spawn2, Naria1, Rune1, Kitanna1, Farael2, Kath1, Boro1)
Boro --> Kitanna (Spawn2, Naria1, Rune1, Kitanna2, Farael2, Kath1, Boro1)

That leaves Lommy, Valier, Spawn, Volo, Nilp, Farael and me to decide this.

Of these Nilp probably won't appear, possibly Valier neither. And if Farael had his timing right in his last post he will not make it in time...

So the Finns are going to decide this!
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Old 01-10-2007, 11:48 AM   #10
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There's no clues about being a twin in DAncing spawn's posts that I see. So why her?
Dancing spawn susp of Kitanna(48) mildly susp of Durelin(50)bit wary of Anguriel (54)feels Eomer Anguriel and Kath are dumbing down-admits that she has "voiced suspicions of some sort of pretty much everyone now"(70) says maybe Kitanna and Holby in cahoots(84)votes Eomer(94)

got votes from Eomer and Holby

Boro says innocent (25)
nogord not vote(30)
lommy says wont vote(51)
volo will follw her for now(75)

She didn't find many highly suspicious and her vote choice is dead. most of the village found her innocent or at least not suspicious with a hand full stating it. She was a safe kill.
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Old 01-09-2007, 08:31 AM   #11
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It seems that Kitanna(Gloin) is acting highly suspicious but what are the odds that she be afflicted twice in a row? But that would be delving into the inner workings of The Necromancer and her ways. Would she be totally random in which GloKit would have a 1/17 chance of being a wolf just like the rest of us or would she tweak the roles for evil amusemsent? We can't know now.


Dancing Spawn(Dwalin) seems a bit too agreeable. Agrees with Boromir(Dori) about Kitanna's(Gloin)suspicios behavior. Agrees with Durelin(Ori) about Rune(Nori) and Kath(Balin) saying remarkably few words. Agrees with Farael(Durin) about his "lynch that add nothing" idea.

She seems to be coming across as agreeable in a befriending sort of way.

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Old 01-09-2007, 08:44 AM   #12
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I'm now most tempted to vote for Dori88, partly, naturally, because he's starting to show signs of wanting to lynch me, but mostly because of this statement:

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If Gloanna be lynched, I'll be after Lord Anguirelshield and Kath tomorrow.
It's typically untrustworthy as it's reasoning based on jumping a death ahead, which always raises my hackles.

Partly because "If Gloanna be lynched" is such an unhelpful first step; really two outcomes in one, namely Gloanna being a wolf and her being innocent.

Partly because it looks like someone with a long game-plan, and the calculation of a wolf.

Partly because it allows him to commit himself to a course of action because of a fairly unrelated event.

Yes, it's troublesome. I've decided, not for the first time-

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