What happened to Mordor?

[Alfirin]

If I was Aragorn, (or for that matter Faramir sice as Price of Ithilien Mordor is now directly on my border). There would be A few MAJOR things I would do before I let anyone live in Mordor. The end of Sauron left a lot of little dangers left in Mordor and I would definty not want to leave any of them lying around for some other dark lord wannable to find.

First and Formost I would send a VERY large, VERY well armored and armed Group of warriors directly to Cirrith Ungol to make sure Shelob is dead or to kill her if she isn't If she is alive she I just too great a risk to live next to especially since they is always the chance that with not orc sacrifices to feed her she could develop Ungoliants ablity to make her own darkness and migh leve the caves to go hunting in the land at large.

Secondly I would see that the ashes of Baradur were CAREFULLY sifted to confirm the destruction of such items as the Ithil stone (I wouldn't want some other person with acess to a Palantir without my knowledge.) Similarly though it is not directly in Mordor I would establish a Garrison to put Amon Hen and Amon Llaw back into service.

Thirdly (and admittely least importantly I would forces to do some serios civic improments such as clearing all the thorns of Mordor and making a few more roads

I can proably think of more things later but thats enough to start

Originally Posted by Alfirin

If I was Aragorn, (or for that matter Faramir sice as Price of Ithilien Mordor is now directly on my border). There would be A few MAJOR things I would do before I let anyone live in Mordor. The end of Sauron left a lot of little dangers left in Mordor and I would definty not want to leave any of them lying around for some other dark lord wannable to find.

First and Formost I would send a VERY large, VERY well armored and armed Group of warriors directly to Cirrith Ungol to make sure Shelob is dead or to kill her if she isn't If she is alive she I just too great a risk to live next to especially since they is always the chance that with not orc sacrifices to feed her she could develop Ungoliants ablity to make her own darkness and migh leve the caves to go hunting in the land at large.

Secondly I would see that the ashes of Baradur were CAREFULLY sifted to confirm the destruction of such items as the Ithil stone (I wouldn't want some other person with acess to a Palantir without my knowledge.) Similarly though it is not directly in Mordor I would establish a Garrison to put Amon Hen and Amon Llaw back into service.

Thirdly (and admittely least importantly I would forces to do some serios civic improments such as clearing all the thorns of Mordor and making a few more roads

I can proably think of more things later but thats enough to start

These suggestions would take many, many years to implement, especially after the battering Gondor took during it's siege. I would, however, be very interested to know what unkown treasures may be found in Cirith Ungol, which is still intact. Also, Moria may be rekindled to it's former glory. Mithril may be found also. This is all fine & well, but what did actually happen? Where did all the orcs go?

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Originally Posted by Mansun

Where did all the orcs go?

There was a thread back then, I don't know how much help it will be, but you can look at it: HERE

Did the Dwarves ever retake Moria?

[Alfirin]

Originally Posted by Mansun

These suggestions would take many, many years to implement, especially after the battering Gondor took during it's siege. I would, however, be very interested to know what unkown treasures may be found in Cirith Ungol, which is still intact. Also, Moria may be rekindled to it's former glory. Mithril may be found also. This is all fine & well, but what did actually happen? Where did all the orcs go?

I never said that the chages metioned would be easy . Re-building a completely wrecked territory is never easy. I merely said that I beived that all of these steps would be necesscary before any serious settling could occur at least in Northern Mordor. Granted most of the steps would take a very long time (especially the last two) In fact they probably could not be completed within Aragorn's lifetime. I was merely point out that if Cirith Ungol was left as is it would be a potential disaster down the line. And it simply would make sense to send a small force early than to wait and have to send a very large force later. Shelob is Mighty But I would imagine the a hundred or so warriors suitably armed and provision with appropriate items (such as a lot of torches and bonfire wood) would be able to handle her. Alternitvely (if Aragorn would be willing to decend to the level of claiming some of the enemies technology for his own use) Aragorn could have some of Sauruman's blasting fire made up (the recipe is probably somewhere in Orthanc; I doubt Saruman was able to take many of his books with him) and simply blast the cave closed at both ends. Checking for the Ithil stone and reclaims Amon Hen and Amon Llaw were simply my ideas for the king to be able to make sure that all metods of extmemly long distace survaillance were under his control. the bramable removal and road addions would be of lowers priority and might in fact be uneseccary (if the climate chaged the brambles might die of thier own accord) I agree with you that thier might be treasure in Cirrith Ungol ( I assume you meant the tower not the cave itself) and such treasure might be useful in re-building

[William Cloud Hicklin]

There was a prophecy that a descendant (at some unspecified time in the future) of Thorin III Stonehelm would be Durin VII, and in his time the Dwarves would return to Moria: but he would be the last reincarnation of Durin.

[Alfirin]

Sorry to resurrect such an old thread but I jsut had a realization that would put a new spin on some of the arguments, maybe. Namely not all of Mordor is so desolate or barren. You forget that geographically Mordor incudes the region known as Nurn (in the extreme south) Nurn is said to be Mordor's Breadbasket, the source for the food nececcary to sustain Sauron's army. It is written that after Sauron's fall Aragorn freed the slaves who tended the fields of Nurn and turn the land over to them even if the rest of Mordor was irredemable I think that there would proably be some Gondorians who migh come to settle alongside the Nurnians. Technically this would be resettlemnt of Mordor.

[Elmo]

Is it right that the Gondorians would want to 'colonise' the Nurn?

[Alfirin]

I'm not sure "colonize" is the right word. That seems to imply that Gondor would want to conquer Nurn and set themseves as its new masters. If that was the case Aragorn would not have freed the slaves in the first place. Presumably, liberated nurn is an independent land which may have fealty to Gondor but would mostly govern itslef (a la Ithilien) what I meant was that as time progressed some Gondorians (or other men of the free nations) might immigrate to Nurn and settle alongside the Nurnians. Aragorn might approve of this, as it would mean that he would have friendly kingdoms on both of Mordor's borders. As time progressed the people of Nurn could slowly spread north, reclaming the rest of Mordor and (assuming it isn't completely blighted) making it habitable again they also might help in bulding roads between Nurn and Gondor/Ithilien so as to allow trade between the two nations (Though since Nurn has the inland sea Nurnnen, I suspect that most trade would be conducted via water.)