WW XXXIX - Do Werebalrogs have wings? - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Thinlómien · 11-20-2007, 01:01 PM

"Happy birthday to you,
happy birthday to you,
happy birthday dear Nogrod,
happy birthday to you."

"What? Who's singing?" Nogrod asked.
"It's just me..." said the Balrog who Sings.
"But it isn't my birthday today!" Nogrod protested.
"Well, it is, in a way", replied the balrog, "it's the day of your rebirth. A bit like a phoenix, you know... Burn to ashes and be born again."
"You're going to burn me?" Nogrod asked.
"Of course", the balrog replied, "but it won't hurt and you'll be born again!"
Without further speeches, he took his cigarette lighter and set the miner on fire.

Nogrod ran to the little brook Eärendil had slept in. "Ulmo, oh mighty lord, protect me", he screamed. There was a splash that drenched his clothes. He was no longer burning. "Oh, thank you, most noble Vala", Nogrod said.

"A pity... you ruined your rebirth", the Balrog who Sings said and advanced on the elf, eyeing him critically. "But hey... you're almost cooked... I mean, not raw anymore, sort of medium. I always wanted to know what an Elf tasted like..."

~*~

Singing a merry song he had learned in school, the Balrog who Sings went back to pretend to be asleep.

"Six a.m. out of bed
By the dawn's early light
Everyday's a new day to
Start the day off right.

Pour the milk, toast the bread
Take a cinnamon oatmeal bite
Have a healthy breakfast
Start the day off right."

~*~

Dead
Thinlómien (mod) - killed by a wingless balrog on Night1
Rikae (ordo) - ate too many cobblers on Day1
Volo (Maeglin the Cobbler Lover) - dropped by a winged balrog on Night2
Lhunardawen (ordo) - committed suicide by smashing her own head on Day2
Macalaure (The Balrog with Swing) - left after being insulted by his low-class fans on Day2
The Might (Eärendil the Seer) - became the miners' shining star on Night3
satansaloser2005 (ordo) - landed face down on Day3
Gil-Galad (Glorfindel the Hunter) – died in a duel on Night4
Brinniel (The Balrog with Bling) – died in a duel on Night4
Kath (Idril the Ordinary Lover) - involuntarily ate poison mushrooms on Day4
Legate of Amon Lanc (Tuor the Ranger Lover) - voluntarily ate poison mushrooms on Day4
Nogrod (ordo) - roasted and eaten for breakfast on Night5

Living
Mithalwen
Naria
Nerwen
Shastanis Althreduin

Day5 begins. You may start (s)talking.

Shastanis Althreduin · 11-20-2007, 01:15 PM

Ugh. We're down a Ranger, and it's all my fault.

Please come back, Mith, I'm sure nothing bad was meant by anything anyone said.

Edit: And that's kinda not cool, Lommy, referring to the Balrog who Sings as a "he", when I'm the only "he" left alive. :P

Mithalwen · 11-20-2007, 01:20 PM

Shasta thank you! You have decided me on so many things.

If you were a balrog you wouldn't want me to play. I think Nerwen innocent and if she isn't I can deal with losing to such a bravura performance.

To get the right kill we have to get the 2 votes for our choice first?

What do you say for voting Naria now and finishing this?

Mithalwen · 11-20-2007, 02:28 PM

Cannot stay and cannot risk voting too late again...will do what I should have done last night when I dithered as the axe fell.....

++Naria

Shastanis Althreduin · 11-20-2007, 04:38 PM

Naria... Nerwen... Naria... Nerwen...

Hm. I can't make up my mind. I'll read a bit and vote later.

Nerwen · 11-20-2007, 08:24 PM

Damn. That was the worst possible time for the site to break down. Believe it or not as you choose, but by that time I was leaning towards Ranger-ordo lovers, and I was going to argue that we couldn't risk lynching them.

And now Nogrod's dead– no surprises there.

Nogrod, Kath, Legate, I'll do my best to make sure you didn't die in vain.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shastanis Althreduin

And that's kinda not cool, Lommy, referring to the Balrog who Sings as a "he", when I'm the only "he" left alive. :P

Thinlómien said she would use "he" for all the Balrogs, and that the narrations would contain no clues to their identity.

OK, people, this is the endgame. Consider your choice very carefully.

I'll be back soon with some arguments.

Nerwen · 11-21-2007, 02:03 AM

My problem here is that all three of you have been pretty quiet. I'll look at each of you.

Mith: Has some points against her– the leap for Gil, and, more importantly, the fact she has managed to get no less than three innocents lynched by delaying her vote. If she is the balrog, it was a clever tactic. On the other hand, in both cases the choice was a difficult one.

Shasta: Contributed virtually nothing in the first few Days; recently has been more active. Made the first Kath vote yesterday (but then he surely couldn't have have predicted the outcome so early).

He hasn't done anything really suspicious, and his posts sound very innocent. If he's a balrog playing the part of an ordo, he's doing a damn fine job.

And the single biggest point in his favour? He didn't immediately vote Naria when Mith already had. What would a balrog have to lose?

Shasta's out, then.

Naria: The quietest of all, and yet, to my mind, the most suspicious. See Legate's points at #247 and mine at #248.

One of my reasons for coming out with my thoughts about the lovers was that, if they were innocent and Naria was guilty, it looked like she was already on to them. I refer to her sudden vote to lynch Legate– a test to see how Kath reacted? (Shasta's vote for Kath could also be interpreted that way, however.)

Kath's argument that Naria couldn't be guilty, since a balrog would know how many Nights we've had no longer applies– all of you have seemed confused about things at some point.

I am hesitant at casting my vote only because it's so crucial. As the other candidate for lynching, though, and despite my lingering doubts about Mith, I pretty much have to vote for Naria.

I know I'm innocent, so I can't let myself get lynched now. Look at the numbers–

4 players
- 1 (lynched toDay by own side)
-1 (balrogged toNight)
= 2 players (1 villager + 1 balrog)

If I can't think of a good reason not to lynch Naria in the next couple of hours, she gets my vote.

Edit: If anyone's reading this, it should be obvious by now that I am not the balrog.

Mithalwen · 11-21-2007, 07:14 AM

Naria ..I know I look bad but I have been spectacularly unlucky with RL. I was dithering over my vote and IMed Lommy to ask when the deadline was - the four mins threw me. I was undecided because Kath and Legate voted differently which I thought sus.

Lommie thought I was reminding her to close the day and it was too late ... I was so upset you wont believe - lost sleep .... If I were the balrog I wouldn't have hung around an hour dithering when I should have been elsewhere when any ordo would do....

The fact you haven't jumped on my vote for Naria instantly confirms I am right to believe you innocent.

I think she really has to be a Balrog.

Please believe me .... I have had a bad game but I am not a balrog - think how I pin pointed Brinniel ... and as for Gil ..well there is history

.. I backed off as soon as a I guessed he was more likely gifted than balrog. Remeber I said - when he takes an interest he is not an ordo.....? His prompt vote for Brinn was the decider for me.

It is up to you. But from your and Shasta's posts I am sure Naria is the last enemy.

Nerwen · 11-21-2007, 07:42 AM

Okay, that's decided me.

And apart from everything else, I couldn't bear losing to Naria. At least you've contributed, Mith. And if you're the balrog, you're taking the trouble to put up a good show of innocence. All she's done is turn up now and then and fire off (apparently) random accusations.

++Naria

Nerwen · 11-21-2007, 08:02 AM

Memo to self: Next time, lynch the enigmas as soon as possible.

11-20-2007, 01:01 PM	#1
Thinlómien Shady She-Penguin Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: In a far land beyond the Sea Posts: 8,093	"Happy birthday to you, happy birthday to you, happy birthday dear Nogrod, happy birthday to you." "What? Who's singing?" Nogrod asked. "It's just me..." said the Balrog who Sings. "But it isn't my birthday today!" Nogrod protested. "Well, it is, in a way", replied the balrog, "it's the day of your rebirth. A bit like a phoenix, you know... Burn to ashes and be born again." "You're going to burn me?" Nogrod asked. "Of course", the balrog replied, "but it won't hurt and you'll be born again!" Without further speeches, he took his cigarette lighter and set the miner on fire. Nogrod ran to the little brook Eärendil had slept in. "Ulmo, oh mighty lord, protect me", he screamed. There was a splash that drenched his clothes. He was no longer burning. "Oh, thank you, most noble Vala", Nogrod said. "A pity... you ruined your rebirth", the Balrog who Sings said and advanced on the elf, eyeing him critically. "But hey... you're almost cooked... I mean, not raw anymore, sort of medium. I always wanted to know what an Elf tasted like..." ~~ Singing a merry song he had learned in school, the Balrog who Sings went back to pretend to be asleep. "Six a.m. out of bed By the dawn's early light Everyday's a new day to Start the day off right. Pour the milk, toast the bread Take a cinnamon oatmeal bite Have a healthy breakfast Start the day off right." ~~ Dead Thinlómien (mod) - killed by a wingless balrog on Night1 Rikae (ordo) - ate too many cobblers on Day1 Volo (Maeglin the Cobbler Lover) - dropped by a winged balrog on Night2 Lhunardawen (ordo) - committed suicide by smashing her own head on Day2 Macalaure (The Balrog with Swing) - left after being insulted by his low-class fans on Day2 The Might (Eärendil the Seer) - became the miners' shining star on Night3 satansaloser2005 (ordo) - landed face down on Day3 Gil-Galad (Glorfindel the Hunter) – died in a duel on Night4 Brinniel (The Balrog with Bling) – died in a duel on Night4 Kath (Idril the Ordinary Lover) - involuntarily ate poison mushrooms on Day4 Legate of Amon Lanc (Tuor the Ranger Lover) - voluntarily ate poison mushrooms on Day4 Nogrod (ordo) - roasted and eaten for breakfast on Night5 Living Mithalwen Naria Nerwen Shastanis Althreduin Day5 begins. You may start (s)talking. __________________ Like the stars chase the sun, over the glowing hill I will conquer Blood is running deep, some things never sleep Double Fenris

11-20-2007, 01:20 PM	#3
Mithalwen Pilgrim Soul Join Date: May 2004 Location: watching the wonga-wonga birds circle... Posts: 9,461	Shasta thank you! You have decided me on so many things. If you were a balrog you wouldn't want me to play. I think Nerwen innocent and if she isn't I can deal with losing to such a bravura performance. To get the right kill we have to get the 2 votes for our choice first? What do you say for voting Naria now and finishing this? __________________ “But Finrod walks with Finarfin his father beneath the trees in Eldamar.” Christopher Tolkien, Requiescat in pace

11-20-2007, 02:28 PM	#4
Mithalwen Pilgrim Soul Join Date: May 2004 Location: watching the wonga-wonga birds circle... Posts: 9,461	Cannot stay and cannot risk voting too late again...will do what I should have done last night when I dithered as the axe fell..... ++Naria __________________ “But Finrod walks with Finarfin his father beneath the trees in Eldamar.” Christopher Tolkien, Requiescat in pace

11-21-2007, 02:03 AM	#7
Nerwen Wisest of the Noldor Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: ˙˙˙ssɐןƃ ƃuıʞooן ǝɥʇ ɥƃnoɹɥʇ Posts: 6,694	My problem here is that all three of you have been pretty quiet. I'll look at each of you. Mith: Has some points against her– the leap for Gil, and, more importantly, the fact she has managed to get no less than three innocents lynched by delaying her vote. If she is the balrog, it was a clever tactic. On the other hand, in both cases the choice was a difficult one. Shasta: Contributed virtually nothing in the first few Days; recently has been more active. Made the first Kath vote yesterday (but then he surely couldn't have have predicted the outcome so early). He hasn't done anything really suspicious, and his posts sound very innocent. If he's a balrog playing the part of an ordo, he's doing a damn fine job. And the single biggest point in his favour? He didn't immediately vote Naria when Mith already had. What would a balrog have to lose? Shasta's out, then. Naria: The quietest of all, and yet, to my mind, the most suspicious. See Legate's points at #247 and mine at #248. One of my reasons for coming out with my thoughts about the lovers was that, if they were innocent and Naria was guilty, it looked like she was already on to them. I refer to her sudden vote to lynch Legate– a test to see how Kath reacted? (Shasta's vote for Kath could also be interpreted that way, however.) Kath's argument that Naria couldn't be guilty, since a balrog would know how many Nights we've had no longer applies– all of you have seemed confused about things at some point. I am hesitant at casting my vote only because it's so crucial. As the other candidate for lynching, though, and despite my lingering doubts about Mith, I pretty much have to vote for Naria. I know I'm innocent, so I can't let myself get lynched now. Look at the numbers– 4 players - 1 (lynched toDay by own side) -1 (balrogged toNight) = 2 players (1 villager + 1 balrog) If I can't think of a good reason not to lynch Naria in the next couple of hours, she gets my vote. Edit: If anyone's reading this, it should be obvious by now that I am not the balrog. Last edited by Nerwen; 11-21-2007 at 06:02 AM. Reason: adding comments

11-21-2007, 07:14 AM	#8
Mithalwen Pilgrim Soul Join Date: May 2004 Location: watching the wonga-wonga birds circle... Posts: 9,461	Naria ..I know I look bad but I have been spectacularly unlucky with RL. I was dithering over my vote and IMed Lommy to ask when the deadline was - the four mins threw me. I was undecided because Kath and Legate voted differently which I thought sus. Lommie thought I was reminding her to close the day and it was too late ... I was so upset you wont believe - lost sleep .... If I were the balrog I wouldn't have hung around an hour dithering when I should have been elsewhere when any ordo would do.... The fact you haven't jumped on my vote for Naria instantly confirms I am right to believe you innocent. I think she really has to be a Balrog. Please believe me .... I have had a bad game but I am not a balrog - think how I pin pointed Brinniel ... and as for Gil ..well there is history .. I backed off as soon as a I guessed he was more likely gifted than balrog. Remeber I said - when he takes an interest he is not an ordo.....? His prompt vote for Brinn was the decider for me. It is up to you. But from your and Shasta's posts I am sure Naria is the last enemy. __________________ “But Finrod walks with Finarfin his father beneath the trees in Eldamar.” Christopher Tolkien, Requiescat in pace

11-20-2007, 01:15 PM	#2
Shastanis Althreduin Werewolf Psychic Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: In fire, water, earth, and air. But mostly water. Posts: 2,832	Ugh. We're down a Ranger, and it's all my fault. Please come back, Mith, I'm sure nothing bad was meant by anything anyone said. Edit: And that's kinda not cool, Lommy, referring to the Balrog who Sings as a "he", when I'm the only "he" left alive. :P

11-20-2007, 04:38 PM	#5
Shastanis Althreduin Werewolf Psychic Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: In fire, water, earth, and air. But mostly water. Posts: 2,832	Naria... Nerwen... Naria... Nerwen... Hm. I can't make up my mind. I'll read a bit and vote later.

11-21-2007, 07:42 AM	#9
Nerwen Wisest of the Noldor Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: ˙˙˙ssɐןƃ ƃuıʞooן ǝɥʇ ɥƃnoɹɥʇ Posts: 6,694	Okay, that's decided me. And apart from everything else, I couldn't bear losing to Naria. At least you've contributed, Mith. And if you're the balrog, you're taking the trouble to put up a good show of innocence. All she's done is turn up now and then and fire off (apparently) random accusations. ++Naria

11-21-2007, 08:02 AM	#10
Nerwen Wisest of the Noldor Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: ˙˙˙ssɐןƃ ƃuıʞooן ǝɥʇ ɥƃnoɹɥʇ Posts: 6,694	Memo to self: Next time, lynch the enigmas as soon as possible.

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