WW XXXX - The scouring of the Shire, vol.2

[Farael]

I have little to add about today's happenings. I still don't like Rikae (game-wise), Loomy is looking a little flip-floppy... as usual, so no problem there ... and Morm's reaction was expectable.

About Valier's death, I'd think that the wolves found an easy target that made a weird seer-like comment and figured that it was a win-win situation. If they nailed the Seer great, if not it'd toss the village in for a spin.

The odds of the Seer finding a wolf on Night 0 are 1/18 right? so I don't think the wolve's kill tonight makes Morm look bad at this stage of the game. Later on we may come back and see it in a different light.

[mormegil]

In post 175 I talk about the voting pattern and conclude that the most likely based on that are Menel and Volo. In 215 I voted Volo based on my gut because honestly I didn't have anything better and wasn't fully caught up nor would I be on that day. In post 316 I bring up how Green spoke about Lommy and Volo and it is analagous to how I view wolves treating each other. Post 352 I give a short quote from Volo talking about Menel. Both seem wolfish...I've spent more time on Menel and so the interaction again reminds me of wolfishness.

So honestly, I haven't had much to go on with Volo but only voted for him once and I stated unequivocally that it was my gut and no real hard evidence. Up to today I don't think I had much by way of hard evidence. I still don't think I've got a full lock on anybody so I try to keep my mind open. Time is a finite resource for me so I focus my intentions where I feel they are needed most. With so much 'Kill Morm' talk I've been doing a bit more defending than I like but I have honestly been trying to bring up points against multiple people...you included Kuru. While my points seem valid to me, they probably are rubbish so generally ignored.

What I find odd is how annoyed you keep getting at my talking about wolf tactics...should I instead talk about seer tactics? I believe we are in the business of killing wolves...it's not odd to get a crimincal pychologist to think like a criminal does...I think it's very helpful to spot those trends and more than anything that is what I am trying to do. Yet, you reprimand me for it...why?

Also Kuru, I find it odd that while I have tried to bring up many points against many people you harp on Volo and the lack of things I've done there. Why focus in on that when I've said, again what I consider decent, things about others who look suspicious but yet I don't have the time to do lengthy posts about everyone or stay up till 3AM basically chatting instead of searching for wolves (Kuru I'm not pointing to you on this one just a little annoyed at having to spend that finite time reading irrelevant blather)

Originally Posted by Kuru

Or do you have a very good reason why the last thing you'd want to do is say something that could definitively be pegged to you?

Come now Kuru, I think it's hard to believe that I have not been outspoken.

[Shastanis Althreduin]

Morm, I do agree with you about Volo, but it seems a bit strange that you immediately call wolf on Kuru as soon as he begins speaking out against you. Care to explain that?

[mormegil]

Originally Posted by Shastanis Althreduin

Morm, I do agree with you about Volo, but it seems a bit strange that you immediately call wolf on Kuru as soon as he begins speaking out against you. Care to explain that?

I think I have made some comments on that Shastanis. But a few others are that he is always to be watched, always! He is good at fooling people...that does not make him guilty but shouldn't be overlooked. Second, and it's something I have tried to work on but fail on occasion, when people suspect me for what I think to be flawed reasons I tend to suspect them. It's not all the time but I do have that habit on occasion and it might hold true here. I don't remember it coorelating with when he began to suspect me but let's be honest, we knew he wouldn't be here on day 2 and on day 1 there wasn't much to go on with him. So is it odd that on day 3 I suspect him based on more information that I have?

[Aganzir]

I was beginning to feel better about morm after rereading his posts (based only on his own behaviour. I find nothing alarming in his posts), but obviously I was not as sharp-sighted as some people here. The novel posted by Lommy sounds possible... assuming that Lommy is innocent, of which I'm not too worried at the moment.

I'm going to be here until deadline, but I guess I'm voting sally, though in order to prevent a multi-lynch I can vote for someone else, too.

Voting this far

Farael - sally
Shasta - morm
Fea - sally (sally-2, morm-1)
Menel - morm (sally-2, morm-2)
Kath - Menel (sally-2, morm-2, Menel-1)
Mac - Volo (sally-2, morm-2, Menel-1, Volo-1)
morm - Menel (sally-2, morm-2, Menel-2, Volo-1)

8 votes still to come.

[The Might]

Well, back one hour before the deadline.

I think I will go with my decision from yesterday and vote for Sally, but I'll wait for a while.
In case you are an ordo, Sally please excuse me for this decision but this lack of explanation and all this confusion in your posts is making me suspect you.

[satansaloser2005]

Originally Posted by The Might

Well, back one hour before the deadline.

I think I will go with my decision from yesterday and vote for Sally, but I'll wait for a while.
In case you are an ordo, Sally please excuse me for this decision but this lack of explanation and all this confusion in your posts is making me suspect you.

No hard feelings Might. If you must you must. And I must.

I'm not dumb enough to not vote today and thus sit back and be lynched. Give me a few minutes and I'll come up with my vote though. I'm not going to just vote to save myself, as that would be counterproductive and just plain terroristic. Saying unproductive stuff is one thing, voting for the heck of it is just plain wrong. So give me some time and hope my laptop doesn't die while I deliberate. Back in a minute or ten with my opinions.

[satansaloser2005]

Oh I hate myself for doing something so obvious. I've voted Morm every day, but between Morm and Menel, I find much more plausible guilt surrounding Morm. Volo is one of my top suspects as well, but that would create a quadruple lynch, and that would be just dumb of me. Sorry to be predictable but....

++Morm


Gah so what if people vote me because of my stubbornness. I'm going with my gut.

And may I make a request for the good of the village? I have three preferences of outcomes for today.

A: A wolf dies. I don't die. Obviously my favorite.
B: A wolf dies. I die. Sucks but at least we get a wolf. (double lynch eek i hate them)
C: I die and a voted ordo lives to see another morning.
D: I die and another ordo dies too. Please don't let this happen!


To put it another way, please lynch either me and a wolf, me alone, or just a wolf. I'd rather have the rest of you fine villagers survive and come quite a bit closer to finding a wolf (as I think today's votes will be instrumental to the wolf-catching) than for me to survive and for us all to still be flippfloppy and clueless.

[Farael]

Originally Posted by mormegil

Also Kuru, I find it odd that while I have tried to bring up many points against many people you harp on Volo and the lack of things I've done there.

Well, it may just be a difference of tactics, but certainly worth mentioning... just like long analysis posts about everyone in the village, what is the point on mentioning lots suspects when only three can be wolves? Unless we do a double/triple lynching we won't kill them all at the same time anyway, and we won't do that 'cos too many things can go wrong (including the fact that our lynchees may very well be ordos). Therefore, why not make a credible accusation at one or two suspicious folks, rather than staying with the knee-jerk reflex of "I suspect whoever suspects me."

I've fallen for that trap before, as a newbie ordo I knew I was an ordo and therefore other people's suspicions always seemed furry... then I learned that people may suspect you and still be an ordo. Morm you've been around long enough that you know it too. Once or twice a game it's bound to happen that someone will suspect you for the wildest of reasons and you'll come out screaming WOOOLLLLFFF!!! But you've done it to everyone who's suspected you.

... I don't have the time to do lengthy posts about everyone or stay up till 3AM basically chatting instead of searching for wolves (Kuru I'm not pointing to you on this one just a little annoyed at having to spend that finite time reading irrelevant blather)

Out-of-game commentary... sorry to annoy you Morm, but when you stay up unti 3 AM reading up on muscle physiology, any "human contact" is welcome... and c'mon, there were what, four posts of "irrelevant blather"?

Having said that, let's not forget this is still a game among what I hope qualifies as friends, if not friendly people... a little chit-chat won't kill anyone, as long as it's not bogging the game down

[/out_of_game]

Edit: Crossed with Kuruharan and Brinniel