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It is quite a strange idea, because there are aa fe loose threads left in LOTR, such as "What happened to the Ents?"(and the Entwives too for that matter). "What happened to the true Aulean dwarfs?" and so on. But he leaves personal things unsaid, for example about Legolas and Gimli, and where their adventures led them. Most of the personal stories are left where they are at the end of the story, with just a hint o a happy/bad ending. But we don't ever find out much about Radagasst te brown, and I don't think even Tolkien knew what happened to the Blue Wizards (Alatar and Pallando).
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And concerning Gimli and Legolas, we are told quite enough about them in the Appendices, about their journeys together and Gimli's work with the Dwarves in the Glittering Caves, and in the end, they both left, Legolas built a ship and they presumably both reached Eressëa.
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Answered by Tolkien in the UT:
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As for all the other questions that are left more or less unanswered... don't you need some mysteries after all? And as the Professor himself said in letter #144: Quote:
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Legate, you do realise the answer is in the quote.
Do the words "pure speculation on my part" ring a bell? No, I have no idea really. But, if as he died he did look towards the West, as he was supposed to return to Mandos but this was denied. I have no clue if in the many ages to come he would hate the Valar for kicking him out or realise his mistake but I hope that he made the good decision like Ar-Pharazon. As for where his spirit went as far as I am aware this is the only quote from all the works that deals with this and so is the only source of infromation.
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Hey wait, so that old idio... ahem, that old king repented? Now that's indeed silly. In that case Saruman must have as well. I would certainly like him there more than that madman. Just where have I heard that: "To the very same Heaven, as me, the old venerable holy father Saruman? No way!!!"
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