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Old 01-16-2008, 03:00 PM   #27
Legate of Amon Lanc
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Great, Mac! That was what I was hoping for all the time! Some real evidence! So it looks like astrology indeed existed in M-E!

Not sure whether we should put Saruman's observing of stars as astrology. We know he did, as I quoted even in my first post, Orthanc was a place where all Men "watched the stars" and Saruman continued in this tradition. I see your points, but I think the fact whether Saruman performed astrology or astronomy depends largely on whether it really worked in M-E or not. The question is, if astrology did not work, why would Saruman, originally a Maia, bother with it? On the other hand, even the Ainur, the more the incarnated ones, did not know everything, and when one could reveal a way how to make super Rings of Power out of some silly metal, why could not someone reveal a way (or be persuaded by a liar that there is a way) to learn something from the stars?
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