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Gordis · 01-29-2008, 12:34 PM

I agree with you, Ibri.
Gandal'f case might however have been an exception - maybe he was summoned to give an account of his mission and agreed to it. Take Sauron at the Downfall. Eru was "very much present" at the moment, but still Sauron was able to return in spirit form to ME unhindered. Though, maybe, it was the Ring that helped him. Yes, I think so.
But I somehow doubt that Melian has been summoned to Eru, or the Barlogs.

It looks like Saruman's spirit wished to return to Valinor as Melian's did, but he was refused admittance (that's how I read this West wind reference)

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01-29-2008, 12:34 PM	#13
Gordis Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Minas Morgul Posts: 431	I agree with you, Ibri. Gandal'f case might however have been an exception - maybe he was summoned to give an account of his mission and agreed to it. Take Sauron at the Downfall. Eru was "very much present" at the moment, but still Sauron was able to return in spirit form to ME unhindered. Though, maybe, it was the Ring that helped him. Yes, I think so. But I somehow doubt that Melian has been summoned to Eru, or the Barlogs. It looks like Saruman's spirit wished to return to Valinor as Melian's did, but he was refused admittance (that's how I read this West wind reference)