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Old 02-25-2008, 05:08 PM   #1
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Maybe it is a bit like if you are a very strict Muslim. They (at least, many do) believe that if you draw or make an image or something you will have to put a part of your soul into it.

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The power that the Druedain possessed was perceived as remarkable (a weak attempt on my part to connect this post with the topic of the thread). In Islam the making of images is seen as sinful. I have read that those who make images will be punished but I haven't read that they will be forced to provide a portion of their soul to their handiwork. I take no offense from your post. Thanks for asking.
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Old 02-27-2008, 03:37 PM   #2
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They are many different ways to interpret things, and what I mentioned is just one.
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Old 02-28-2008, 10:34 AM   #3
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They are many different ways to interpret things, and what I mentioned is just one.
Yes, of course. My sources of information are from the traditional Sunni perspective. There are certainly other interpretations, as is well known.

I find the Druedain to be admirable because it seems from the information provided that they are the most pure among mankind. I have always been intrigued by the quote above, "Their voices were deep and guttural, but their laughter was a surprise: it was rich and rolling, and set all who heard it, Elves or Men, laughing too for its pure merriment untainted by scorn or malice." Also, I think that I have read that there was some speculation by the inhabitants of Beleriand that the Druedain were related to Orcs. Elves apparently squashed that speculation because to their heightened senses the two groups could not be more different.
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Old 02-28-2008, 02:16 PM   #4
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Yes, I think you are thinking of this:

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To the unfriendly who, not knowing them well, declared that Morgoth must have bred the Orcs from such a stock the Eldar answered: `Doubtless Morgoth, since he can make no living thing, bred Orcs from various kinds of Men, but the Drúedain must have escaped his Shadow; for their laughter and the laughter of Ores are as different as is the light of Aman from the darkness of Angband.'


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TM, do you imagine that might be similar to the horcrux idea as told in the Harry Potter books?
Isn't the ring like the horcrux idea in the Harry Potter books? (though obviously JRRT wrote first)
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Old 02-28-2008, 04:21 PM   #5
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Neither Tolkien nor Rowling came up with the idea. While I admits that, until I read Rowling I had never heard the word "horcrux" the concept it (and the master ring) embodies (that of an evil being hiding his or her soul in an object outside of thier body so as to become immortal and invicible) is one that should be familiar to anyone who has read a decent amount of folklore. One story that comes to mind in particular would be "The Heartless Giant" (proably becuse of the version done of the story in Jim Henson's "The Storyteller" series.
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Old 02-28-2008, 04:34 PM   #6
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I actually meant "Tolkien before Rowling"not "Tolkien first"
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