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Old 04-01-2008, 02:22 PM   #11
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I'm well aware of those quotes, Ibrîniğilpathânezel, but I was making a point. Galadriel did everything that AJ's question asked. She offered Boromir a solution to his want to do good and save his people. We aren't told that flat out, because Boromir does not openly say what Galadriel offered him when she tested all of them with her mind. One can safely assume, however, that is was the command of the Ring, in turn saving Gondor and his people.

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However, I was more interested in what MatthewM was implying in response to the quote he gave from ArathornJax, particularly since he substituted Galadriel for AJ's original question of Sauron's MO.
I wasn't saying it was Galadriel's fault that Boromir fell to the Ring. Yet, I can't help but think what would have happened if The Fellowship hadn't passed through Lorien. Am I implying that Galadriel had a hand in the Breaking of the Fellowship? Yes, sure. For it was only after Lorien that Boromir's lust was really awoken, regardless if he carried it with him since the Council. It was never made apparent until The Great River - after the tempting of Galadriel. I was not speaking through Faramir's view, because it was not just Faramir's view that Men came out of Lorien unchanged. It was Boromir's as well, along with the rest of Gondor.



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If Galadriel was able to test Boromir that way, why could not Sauron? And if Boromir fell to Galadriel's test, would he not then also be likely to fall to a similar one from Sauron? So it makes it more likely Boromir, speaking of course always hypothetically as most of our discussions here are, would have fallen similarly to become one of the Nine.
Yet I don't think that's what many Downers would think?
There would be a huge difference, in my opinion, in being tested by a virtuous Elf lady (even if she is suspicious) and being tested by the Dark Lord. No, I do not believe Boromir would have fell to be one of the Nine. That kind of question really is not going to lead anywhere, really...it is so hypothetical and I think what I think, others think what they think.

Again, the discussion is supposed to be about the relationship between Boromir and Faramir, and everyone continues to isolate Boromir.
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