Admin Thread for WWXLV: The Fellowship of Saruman

[Gil-Galad]

If you must know Gandalf's suspicion list. Dain and Halbarad were both on it for traitors.


this is what, 7th game in which i have picked out 2 out of 3 wolves. i wonder when people are going to keep me around longer because my dumb luck seems to work everytime... i just watch what is said, wolves have a way with words that i detect almost right away...

le sigh... ol' mis-understood Gil...

[THE Ka]

Originally Posted by Nerwen

I had a very strong bad feeling about The Ka from the start– and I thought, "Better not say too much this early, because if I happen to be right they'll think I'm the Seer and kill me". So I kept quiet... and they killed me anyway.

Really you should feel honored that we were so scarred to see what would happen if you stayed longer. You're a sharp player Nerwen, and I only observe and learn from those I see as the best.

Originally Posted by Legate

Last minute voting is nice, but this, I think, has been an example how horrifying it can be.

I was in a daze after the second Day voting, even if the deadline was at a relatively comfortable GMT for me, still I just sat there wondering if this was going to lead anywhere. Apparently so.

Originally Posted by Gwath

Yeah. I felt like I was on Ritalin all week long.

Same here, except my silly idea of drinking coffee and tea seriously did nothing to help me stay awake for both the Night and Day phases. I've probably overrun my caffine response again.

Well, I did enjoy the in-character element of the game (yes, it actually helped a little with how to rationalize thoughts in the game and not be killed so soon), but despite having some luck at this I think it should be used every once in awhile as all good ideas. No use in waring thin a wonderful idea.

As for future games, I'm going to take a break for awhile since my life is going to take quite a spin in the next few months.
I won't forget this game though, or any of the brilliant Downers, so I should be back. Eventually. Again.

Thanks again, all of you.

~ Thankful Ka

[Rune Son of Bjarne]

Originally Posted by Gil-Galad

If you must know Gandalf's suspicion list. Dain and Halbarad were both on it for traitors.


this is what, 7th game in which i have picked out 2 out of 3 wolves. i wonder when people are going to keep me around longer because my dumb luck seems to work everytime... i just watch what is said, wolves have a way with words that i detect almost right away...

le sigh... ol' mis-understood Gil...

I actually think that it is a bit unfair how Gil is constantly killed of early in the game and allways for the same reason, his way of playing the game.

That was why I chritisised Nogrod so much for his vote on him, I thought that he had played enough with Gil to know how his style is.

[Nogrod]

I agree that is feels pretty nasty to see Gil go everytime so early... well not every time but pretty regularly. But this time I think there was a difference which was his insistence that he would only speak his mind the next Day. Now if we think that everyone would adopt the tactics saying "you should not lynch me toDay as I will speak toMorrow" it would obviously be a disaster for the game.

Had he been open with his supicions I probably would have voted Gwath instead of him... and that would have been good indeed... Sorry Gil.

[Thinlómien]

Originally Posted by Agan

And I wouldn't have trusted you half as much as I did, hadn't Lommy (who, I was sure, was innocent) done so.

Surely you should know better than to trust my judgement by now...

Originally Posted by Gil

If you must know Gandalf's suspicion list. Dain and Halbarad were both on it for traitors.

this is what, 7th game in which i have picked out 2 out of 3 wolves. i wonder when people are going to keep me around longer because my dumb luck seems to work everytime... i just watch what is said, wolves have a way with words that i detect almost right away...

le sigh... ol' mis-understood Gil...

Well, it would have been fine had you not started to threaten me... Seriously though, I must agree with what Nog said about your tactics. But better luck and better strategies (from both my and your part) next time, I hope...

[Aganzir]

Originally Posted by Legate of Amon Lanc

Ah, sorry, I was merely continuing on the subject of the sentence. Not even sure about English, but in Czech a Ranger would be he. Although, if I wrote in Czech, I would write "rangeress" or how should it be told, so that would be again "she", but clearly...

Ah! these silly languages which need to make a distinction between sexes...

Originally Posted by Thinlómien

Surely you should know better than to trust my judgement by now...

I might have ignored the fact that Groin looked quite innocent and kept pursuing him with my weak day 1 reasons, hadn't you said it aloud.

[Gwathagor]

Any ideas on how to be a better werewolf, should I have the misfortune to be cast in such a role again in the future?

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Originally Posted by Gwathagor

Any ideas on how to be a better werewolf, should I have the misfortune to be cast in such a role again in the future?

Yes: Do not write to Sally "DON'T quote me! We are NOT on speaking terms." when the game is still running, because one who reads it will conclude either that A) she is not a fellow Wolf, logically, because you blame her for your lynching, B) she is a fellow Wolf, but in any case she lynched you and you don't like it, so it was not part of any wolfy plan - both these variants leak out information outside the game, and this is why you should not talk about the running game at all outside the game until it is completed - or C) eventually you are bluffing, because it was part of a plan, but that would be even worse, because that's, in a way, cheating.

[Rune Son of Bjarne]

Originally Posted by Nogrod

I agree that is feels pretty nasty to see Gil go everytime so early... well not every time but pretty regularly. But this time I think there was a difference which was his insistence that he would only speak his mind the next Day. Now if we think that everyone would adopt the tactics saying "you should not lynch me toDay as I will speak toMorrow" it would obviously be a disaster for the game.

Had he been open with his supicions I probably would have voted Gwath instead of him... and that would have been good indeed... Sorry Gil.

Fair play. . . . It just seemed like a normal "lets get rid of Gil" day at the office, but I was mistaking.

Kind of like when Wayn The Goblin (cannot remember how it was spelled) used to play, he two was often removed from the game quite early. He said even less than Gil and I must admit that I voted for him several times in lack of better suspects.

[Gil-Galad]

Originally Posted by Rune Son of Bjarne

Fair play. . . . It just seemed like a normal "lets get rid of Gil" day at the office, but I was mistaking.

Kind of like when Wayn The Goblin (cannot remember how it was spelled) used to play, he two was often removed from the game quite early. He said even less than Gil and I must admit that I voted for him several times in lack of better suspects.

the thing about first day, nobody truly has an idea of whose who except the wolves(to some extent). i remember how my first couple of WW games went like

Game 1: tried playing quiet and under radar. lynched day 1
Game 2: tried talking as much as possible and asking everyone questions. lynched day 1
Game 3: was busy all day, so no talking from me. lynched day 1. came back as hunter around end of game to replace the storm maiden(she has been gone too long).

what really got me frustrated was that every strategy i tried, it always got me lynched. made me want to give up WW for good seeing how i get no good games out of it. but i stuck by, and i had two great games. one where i was a werewolf and survived till end(taking dear nogrod down with me) and the other where i was glorfindel the hunter and killed a balrog with me. those games are few and rare now a days...

[THE Ka]

Originally Posted by Nogrod

be yourself even if you are a baddie, speak and act like you would do were you your innocent self. It's hard sometimes - most of the times - to be sure... and it doesn't even always pay off.

Too true...

Though, it is better than playing so out of your element that you practically hand yourself over to people as a scapegoat. It is good to experiment sometimes, but you just have to find your comfort zone once you do, and always realize that people are naturally going to be a bit crazy in WW when they need a vote.

It just happens, most predictably on the first day. Just don't let it go to your head and have fun at any little thing you can do before you leave, or win. I guess we all made that little mistake earlier and WW was almost banned for good, until we finally realized that hey, it's just a game. So don't forget that!

Okay, that's the only bit of advice I can give. Have fun and stay relatively 'sane' as you find what works best for you.

~ Ka

[Rune Son of Bjarne]

Originally Posted by Gil-Galad

the thing about first day, nobody truly has an idea of whose who except the wolves(to some extent). i remember how my first couple of WW games went like

Game 1: tried playing quiet and under radar. lynched day 1
Game 2: tried talking as much as possible and asking everyone questions. lynched day 1
Game 3: was busy all day, so no talking from me. lynched day 1. came back as hunter around end of game to replace the storm maiden(she has been gone too long).

what really got me frustrated was that every strategy i tried, it always got me lynched. made me want to give up WW for good seeing how i get no good games out of it. but i stuck by, and i had two great games. one where i was a werewolf and survived till end(taking dear nogrod down with me) and the other where i was glorfindel the hunter and killed a balrog with me. those games are few and rare now a days...

I cannot remember if I was playing or just following the game where you stuck around to the end, but actually that game is the exeption that confirms the rule about you and ww. . .

Anywasy Gil, I am sorry to say this, but even when you change your tactics there is little change to spot for us. .. (me) Even when you try to be vocal you still apear to be silent, I guess it has something to do with the way you write. . . But this is just my opinion, I might be totaly mistaking.

[Thinlómien]

Originally Posted by Rune Son of Bjarne

Anywasy Gil, I am sorry to say this, but even when you change your tactics there is little change to spot for us. .. (me) Even when you try to be vocal you still apear to be silent, I guess it has something to do with the way you write. . . But this is just my opinion, I might be totaly mistaking.

Hmmm... I agree. But there is a difference between a vocal and a silent Gil, I think. And Gil you were brilliant in the werebalrog-game.

Sally, I'm curious - did you have any specific reasons for picking the dreams you picked?