Tol-in-Gaurhoth XLVII: Dueling Wizards Werewolf II

[Lalaith]

Good:

Phantom

probably Good:
Brinniel
Legate
Gwath
Morm
Celuien

No idea:

Eonwe
Lhuna
Durelin
Kath
Satansaloser
Shastanis

Bit worried:

McCaber
Isabellkaya


Really quite worried:
Roa

Worried, worried, whoo!:
Lommy

Well, dur:
Rikae
Nilp

[Lalaith]

Here's why Roa worries me:

I know her to be an extremely strong and loyal team player. When I was the Seer and was in trouble, in the Werepenguins game, she stood over me like an anxious Valkyrie. Her performance yesterday, after Rikae ran off, reminded a bit of that. She stayed around, she seemed to be joining the debate, but basically I got the feeling she was trying to prove that Rikae was telling the truth. Like a loyal press secretary, left in the lurch by her CEO at an Enron press conference.

I don't know, maybe I was imagining it, but that's what it felt like.

[Lalaith]

I'll do Lommy after supper.

Izzy - your recent post, quite agree. I can't post much Mon-Fri, as the forum is blocked at work: when I get home, I like to read the posts of others before I post myself - so no, I don't flood-post. However, I was around all Saturday and tried to be as helpful as possible. We do what we can, when we can.

[Thinlómien]

I really don't understand what you all have against me... Seriously, it's baffling. I'm innocent and I don't think I have acted any differently from how I normally act. Usually people suspect me to some degree, yes, but not this much. (It has been a while since I was last lynched when I was innocent.) So, I'm quite confident that not everybody who suspects me really suspects me, but there are some wolves hiding in the crowd, as I seem to have become the "official suspicious person" everybody has to be suspicious of. Which ones are the pretenders or the go-alongs then? No idea. I'm tempted to look at everybody who has expressed suspicion of me because I'm quite sure there'll be a wolf or two among the sheep. (See? Not a that good idea to flow along the current. You get what you deserve: a proper inspection. )


edit: xed with McC

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Hmm, it looks like you really won't see anything more from me toDay, too busy. Let's hope there will be still something to see toMorrow. My vote, for the sake of it:

++Nilp

And that will be it. Fare thee well.

[McCaber]

Once again, I am sorry about my lack of content. My internet is extremely spotty lately, and I won't be able to get on for the rest of the day. I might even have to bow out of this one.

So without further ado,

++Nilp

[Eönwë]

Ok, well here's my list (bear in mind I've never played, so):

Innocent:
the phantom- most likely, but an enigma.

Probably innocent:
Shastanis Althreduin
Mormegil
Celuien
McCaber

Slightly less innocent (maybe becoming a bit furry):
A Little Green
Isabellkaya
Roa_Aoife- It hought she was evil at the beginning but now I'm convinced otherwise. Hmm. Nasty wolf trickses maybe, but more likely not.
Thinlómien

Hmm (claws, perhaps):

satansaloser2005 (Well she said write Sally)- she writes too much pointless stuff. But I've never played before. Is might always be like this.
Kath- Something's not quite right
Legate of Amon Lanc- a bit quiet laetley. Maybr an ordoed wolf

Pure evil:
Rikae
Nilpaurion Felagund


Don't know:
Durelin
Lhunardawen
Brinniel
Lalaith- something's odd
Gwathagor

x-ed with Lalaith #3 onwards

[Eönwë]

Then there's the Rikae problem. Is she really the EW? We all seem to take this for granted, but...

I have a theory, but that might just get me killed, so I won't say it.

[Eönwë]

And Lalaith- seems reassuring, but is there something more sinister behind the guise of a mouse? Probably not.

But Lommy keeps on trying to get people not to look at her as suspicious, or otherwise that makes them look suspicious. She's just masking her scent... (or is she the one who can tell people by their scent?)

[Shastanis Althreduin]

Whee, lots of posts.

++Nilp

I had a point about Phantom and Diamond that I thought up on the ride over but since it's pretty clear now who's who, I won't go into that.

[Thinlómien]

Originally Posted by Eönwë

Then there's the Rikae problem. Is she really the EW? We all seem to take this for granted, but...

I have a theory, but that might just get me killed, so I won't say it.

Killed? Killed in the Night? You'd be sacrificing your life for greater good... Lynched? No, we're not that quick to jump on weird theories. Obviously, it's difficult to give you advice but as a rule: say it aloud as crazy as it is and whatever might happen to you (unless you are a person of special importance) unless it benefits the evil team to know it.

Originally Posted by Eönwë

But Lommy keeps on trying to get people not to look at her as suspicious, or otherwise that makes them look suspicious. She's just masking her scent... (or is she the one who can tell people by their scent?)

No, that's not me, that's my treacherous husband. Anyway, what I wanted to interefere with in this statement is that suspecting me is not suspicious per se, but when half of the village is doing it - with very weak grounds as far as I can see - it is suspicious.

Speaking of which, I'm going to see who have suspected me toDay (and possibly yesterDay) and then I'll draw a conclusion or two... Beware.

[Brinniel]

You know, every time phantom reveals a wolf, I begin to doubt him. But then claimed wolf spoils it all by their reaction. It's almost like the bad guys are doing the work for us...

But really, I think it's time I start trusting phantom. As much as I hate trusting anyone, I can't see any possible way he would be lying..

Is there any point to my vote? I think it's quite obvious who's going to be lynched.

++Nilp

[Thinlómien]

Legate

#1010

I can't say that Lommy's posts early toDay carry on with the generally rather unpleasant view on her, but whatever.

#1094

RED ZONE:
Thinlómien - I said that all before many times. My view of the story: From the beginning an ordo, later scried for a wolf, now still seeming to be undecisive about things, TOO skeptical (again, cf. above) for her skepticism to be actually honest! She may be skeptic, but heck, there is a limit!!!

Did suspect me yesterDay.

conclusion: Obviously hopelessly misjudging my actions, but I don't think he does it in a particularly wolvish way.


morm

#1017

Thinlómien --Like always I think she's evil but I don't have any real good reason to think this.

#1046

Anyway, overall Lal, Lommy and Shasta are my top suspects (excluding Rikae, but I think I know where tp may be going with this.)

#1109

I hope phantom gives us some more direction but I'm glad we have Nilp and thinned the numbers a bit. I still think Lommy, Lal, and now Greenie are worthy of looking at more closely.

#1170

Lommy my concern is your use of punctuation...definately wolfish, not to mention you smiley or not so smiley faces.

Seriously though, part of the reason I suspect you is your insatiable desire to continually 'prove' your innocence. I've played many games with you and often times find you suspicious but this time I find you suspicious for different reasons. You do have a different vibe to you almost as if you changed roles...

Did suspect me yesterDay.

conclusion: I will withhold judgement until I see his explanation to that proving innocence thing.


sally

#1042

Lommy Mommy: I can't shake the feeling that she's a wolf. Other than her behavior with the whole Phantom/Rikae/Di/Legate thing yesterday, she seems innocent, so I'm hoping it was just a flurry of confusion. Surprisingly, I would vote her, but only if she was against someone I thought extremely innocent. (64)

Did suspect me yesterDay, but only very late when quite many people had first suspected me.

conclusion: kind of flip-flopping and going with the flow, not good. On the other hand, I don't think she was a wolf yesterDay, so I don't know why did she kind of lighten her suspicion of me toDay if she was cursed last Night. Maybe to try to gain an ally/ not get me against her? A rather odd choice, given the current situation. Something I need to think about...


Gwathagor

#1049

Thinlómien - 6[1 innocent, 10 guilty]

Questioned me yesterDay.

conclusion: little to go on, but definitely fishy. Flowing like a fish (or a wolf?) along the stream.


Lalaith

#1084

I will say this though, I still feel really uncomfortable about Lommy from yesterday.

#1144

Worried, worried, whoo!:
Lommy

#1173

Ok, here's why I think Lommy is a wolf.

There are players I have difficulty getting a 'feel' for. Kath, for example, and Durelin (although having said that I did spot wolf-Durelin last time I played).
But I do think I have a handle on Lommy, as it were, and every time I've played with Lommy before I've trusted her, and every time she's been innocent. (I think!)

But this time she feels all wrong. Her participation in the debate yesterday for example: the confusion seemed fabricated, as did the refusing to acknowledge that Rikae might be the EW.
Her last post "don't scry me please" yesterday sounded like a bid to make the GW think she (Lommy) was the EW rather than Rikae.
And the whole Aganzir/Lommy routine reminded me of Roa/Valier in the last DW.

There's some hard evidence there but it's mostly instinct and thus not as convincing to the rest of you as it could be. And of course I could be quite wrong. But there you have it.

Suspected me yesterDay.

conclusion: I'm grudging to admit this, but she looks quite innocent. Or then she's a wolf who has chosen a target early on.


Brinn

#1092

Lommy: Umm...I don't want to flood this post with tons of quotes, but there are tons of her's that stick out to be. I want to make a more detailed analysis of her later. Let's just say for now it's not looking good...

#1093

#1095

Suspicious: Lommy

#1161

Wait...are you saying that anyone who finds you suspicious is suddenly suspicious themselves?

Suspected me yesterDay.

conclusion: I think she's too enthusiastic to lynch me. Looks quite wolfy solely based on this.


Durelin

#1142

Thinlómien – I really have no idea. I rather thought she was a wolf before everyone (well, a number of people) started to suspect her. I think Greenie makes a good point about her. She’s lost the smoothness I saw in the first couple Days, which was what really freaked me out (anytime the majority of the village seems to want to go along with her, it alarms me). Her confusion may have been played up, but you can make arguments against people who go along with things too easily, too. And I believe some already have.

Questioned me yesterDay.

conclusion: sounds sincere enough, but there's a chance she's a wolf.


Eönwë

#1150

Slightly less innocent (maybe becoming a bit furry):
Thinlómien

#1152

But Lommy keeps on trying to get people not to look at her as suspicious, or otherwise that makes them look suspicious. She's just masking her scent... (or is she the one who can tell people by their scent?)

Did not suspect me yesterDay.

conclusion: definitely eyebrow-raising worthy behaviour, but could be newbieishness as well as wolfyness.


Celuien

#1154

Slightly less suspicious:
Lommy - something felt funny about her reactions to the events yesterday, as pointed out by others. I have nothing to add to those comments.

Did not suspect me yesterDay.

conclusion: suspicious. Riding on the wave.


Summa summarum:

probably just misjudging innocents:
Legate
Durelin
Lalaith

could be either:
Eönwë
morm
sally

could very well be wolves:
Celuien
Brinn
Gwath


edit: xed with Brinn and sally

[A Little Green]

Well I might as well vote now.

++ Nilp

(By the way, this current situation is quite dull, actually. Someone comes and tells you who is a wolf, then you vote him out, and have new instructions the next day. Bah.)

I agree with Lommy, though, that we shouldn't think that "Okay, phantom (who seems to be the GW after all...) will clear the situation out, let's chat while we wait for him to tell us what to do." It will profit no one, especially because we still have two wolves to catch. Who do I think might be among those two? Hmmm... McCaber? Kath? Celuien? I don't know.


EDIT: x-ed with 1xEönwë