Werewolf XLVIII: When Virtual Becomes Reality

[THE Ka]

Originally Posted by Eomer

This pshycology class basicaly says that, like, people, will show themselves if ur clever enough to see inside their souls. So because I've been taking these classes I think I could really help us find the hackers.

Souls and psychology? You mean a freudian method?

I need Mith to translate this, if you please.

Originally Posted by Nerwen

WARE R U GUYS??!!!111!!!!!

'ware' the whether the weather of what? I think I was sleeping, because that is what normal people do in my timezone at 5 am.

Nerwen seems thoroughly drenched in the art of chatspeak, maybe she knows how to translate hacker. Or Boro's dictionary does.
Either way, I find her amusing. We should keep her around and see what happens. That or, some of the hackers are taking full advantage of our complete attention to try and translate her posts. Hmmm, conflict.

Form reminds me of an eagle scout. Which, if he is conspiring with the hackers, that could be a bit dangerous.

Sorry that I don't have much to say, but it's a bit of a busy day. More than likely I am going to have to vote randomly toDay, unfortunately. So much for sleeping in.

~ Ka

[Mithalwen]

Originally Posted by THE Ka

Souls and psychology? You mean a freudian method?

I need Mith to translate this, if you please.




~ Ka

Well Ka, as an atheist, Freud means the innermost being. We certainly could interpret today's events as being caused by the Ids of the hackers getting the upper hand, a conflict of libido and thanatos. Of course psychoanalysis is not a quick fix and the interpretation of dreams is probably not appropriate at this stage. We could try some free association? Or maybe Jung and see what the collective unconscious can provide lets not go with Laing - that could cause all sorts of problems.

Aiee I got distracted again. I have had a look at the posting numbers and Nerwen is certainly noisiest by a long way but then others have been sooo quiet. Over posting can be significant but so can quietness. I can stay about an hour but I do hope things will pick up. It seems a bit ironic that two "talkers" are the only ones voted for so far. I thought this would be a super noisy game but it seems to be being played by a lot of trappists so far.

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

Whoa, Mithalwen, you're totally, well, dodgy to me. You keep talking about there being a lack of talking and how people have to say more, but, really, two things ........... 1. ur not saying much urself and 2. it's day 1 silly!?! There's not much going on!!!1?

Maybe your tryng to act all like your helpful and all that jazz?!? Because your laboring the point.

[Eönwë]

Originally Posted by Mithalwen

I have had a look at the posting numbers

How do you do that?

[Mithalwen]

Well at the risk of sounding suspiciously helpfulyou go to the Mirth thread list and click on the number of replies and it will give you a breakdown by member. It is always interesting to know who has been posting and how much.

[Boromir88]

I was wondering how long Nerwen would keep up her wildly headaching causing chatspeak. I am wondering whether some are suspicious of her because they actually believe she is a hacker, or if she's just annoying us all with her chatspeak.

Case and point, Kitanna's suspicions and The Sixth's:

Nerwen jumps out because she posts often and says little. Granted most of her posts were in character jargon and her most recent ones are serious and moving away from IC, but she makes a note to say those who make long lists, but say nothing are suspicious. I find people who make frequent short posts that say nothing equally suspicious. Which is why I now vote for Nerwen. Though she is only moderately suspicious in my eyes she stands out from the others on my list.~Kitanna

Wow, Nerwen is making my brain hurt. I say we vote her because:

a) Reading that kind of text will be really annoying later in the game for everyone.

b) Nerwen knows this and if she really is a wolf and she survives, she will go under the radar later in the game. (I personally am NOT going to read that in a longer post than three lines, it hurts my head)~The Sixth

Kitanna's reasoning makes her look innocent (to me), she brings up a valid reason for the suspicions against Nerwen. I disagree with what Nogrod thinks about it.

Kitanna feels like she tries and tries to find anything even remotely called a reason for her vote... just read her votepost and you may see what I mean. There is something forced in there to my eye.

I did read the votepost Nogrod, and there's nothing forced about it. It looks more like Kitanna found something she thought is suspicious and thus voted for Nerwen.

The Sixth's reasoning is forced, since Nerwen is annoying, let's lynch her before she slips under the radar. And oh plus there's no one else.

teh n00b eönwë casts random suspic10ns on ppl. probaly just his r0le. he mite be usng it as cover tho.~Nerwen

Don't assume Eonwe is a noob, or we could all be in trouble. In a past life Eonwe was my wolf partner and he survived longer than me. His cunning had the village in a circle until the seer spotted him.

Eonwe's approach so far reminds me of one that I have tried. Aggressive, in your face, asking questions, and sparking responses. I must say I am much better at it than he, but I think he's innocent.

More will come after dinner.

[Aganzir]

Originally Posted by Nerwen

–It's starting to look to me like there's a wolf somewhere in this Agan/Nilp/Form brawl that's just started up. Not sure who it is.

This is not a rhetorical question, I want an answer. Why does it look like that? Is there some special way wolves can make people around them talk like they do? We three have just caught your attention, but is there something that should really suggest that at least one of us is a wolf?
I could ask the same from Kitanna. Just how do back and forth posts together suggest that there's a hacker or two?

Originally Posted by Kitanna

I'd say don't encourage or discourage IC posts, some may be more useful tomorrow or some may remain simple rubbish and mean nothing.

And also some OOC posts may be more useful tomorrow while some remain simple rubbish. The question is whether I rather read posts written in chat speak or proper English.

Originally Posted by Nogrod

Form backs it twice: saying it's a random one and using IC reasons (I know he used to be the most staunch Day1-hater there was but still that is pretty much downgrading the whole Day 1). Kitanna feels like she tries and tries to find anything even remotely called a reason for her vote... just read her votepost and you may see what I mean. There is something forced in there to my eye.

I agree. Otherwise at least Kitanna feels somewhat innocentish, though, and I wouldn't vote for either of them now based only on that.

Originally Posted by Eönwë

This is true. One of them might very well be a hacker. But we haven't seen enough of anyone to really be certain.

Nerwen is doing anything useful.

Yet it was Nerwen who first brought up the A/N/F thing you just agreed on.

Ka, you're a hacker! Defend yourself!

**

Guilty
Elf-Warrior. Nothing's changed since my first post.
Sixth. Nothing's changed since my first post.
Durelin. This is my most random suspicion this far, and I don't know a certain reason for it but her post(s) brought the word 'cobbler' into my mind.
Nerwen. She makes me uncomfortable and looks both guilty and innocent so I rather label her guilty. I don't know - there's something in the way she suspects people.
sally. I feel uneasy about her for a reason I don't know.

Innocent
Mith
Kitanna
Nogrod
Eönwë

Neither
Kath
Shasta
Ka
Nilp
Boro
Eomer
Form
Rikae
McC

[Eönwë]

Originally Posted by Aganzir

Yet it was Nerwen who first brought up the A/N/F thing you just agreed on.

Doesn't make it her idea

[Aganzir]

Originally Posted by Eönwë

Doesn't make it her idea

But if she says something you find clever and can agree about, I think you shouldn't say she isn't doing anything.

Originally Posted by Eönwë

How do you do that?

By clicking Replies between Last Post and Views on the Mirth (or any else) forum.

I am planning to vote in an hour since I would love to get to sleep a bit earlier than during the last few days, and if I had to vote now it'd probably be for Sixth.

edit: xed with Mith

[Eönwë]

Originally Posted by Aganzir

But if she says something you find clever and can agree about, I think you shouldn't say she isn't doing anything.

True, true.

edit: WAIT A SECOND! I said she wasn't doing anything useful, not that she wasn't doing anything. You're twisting my words Aganzir. Sounds like wolfish behaviour to me.

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

Originally Posted by Eönwë

True, true.

edit: WAIT A SECOND! I said she wasn't doing anything useful, not that she wasn't doing anything. You're twisting my words Aganzir. Sounds like wolfish behaviour to me.

Dodgy post, y'know? Complete over-reaction.

Also, Mithalwen, you may think Sally is being opportunistic, with her vote for 6th, but I could equally well say it about you. Whatever Sally had it was gonna be weak, and this is another chance for you to step in with a righteous comment. She's taken the position of early-voter-with-bad-reason and you've matched her in becoming critic-of-early-voter.

Two sides, same coin.

[Eönwë]

Originally Posted by Eomer of the Rohirrim

Dodgy post, y'know? Complete over-reaction.

Maybe I did slightly over-react. But after sorta-agreeing with Agan, I realised that that was not exactly what I said. To me the meanings do make a difference... I'm sure Sixth will explain (if he survives).

x-ed with everyone since... aah! Noggie.

[Aganzir]

Originally Posted by Eönwë

edit: WAIT A SECOND! I said she wasn't doing anything useful, not that she wasn't doing anything. You're twisting my words Aganzir. Sounds like wolfish behaviour to me.

Haa I didn't even notice this before Eomer posted the quote.
To me "do something" and "do something useful" are practically the same thing so I wasn't even trying to twist your words. Maybe I just don't think idiomatically enough.

[Kath]

Hello! I'm here for a little bit! Maybe even til the deadline, it depends. Would someone mind posting a voting tally if there have been any votes so I can see what's going on while I start to read through?

[Nogrod]

My dad went asleep and I seem to have what... 1½ hours to do something useful. Okay. I'll start with having a cigarette (gah, there goes the mod-status ).

I still have my faith on Day 1's being possibly productive and I'm not going to give it up just because of one Day1 when I have not had a chance to do any thinking beside the PC. *fits the IC-situation as well! *

[Rikae]

Sorry I'm late, I didn't realize the day was starting (I was reading HoME for the 16th time).

The Elf-Warrior just seems evil to me, although I couldn't quite explain it - a sort of nervous, tense vibe, much like Maglor's wife observed in Legolas after he swallowed his own hand and turned into a werewolf.

Originally Posted by Nerwen

–It's starting to look to me like there's a wolf somewhere in this Agan/Nilp/Form brawl that's just started up. Not sure who it is.

How do you figure? I didn't have that impression at all. Nilp and Form, in particular, have really given nothing to go on game-wise, so why latch on to them? (Not that giving nothing to go on will be perfectly fine as the game continues).

I'll second Nogrod on Kitanna's vote being eyebrow-raising. It is overly self-conscious, somehow.

Red

Kitanna
The Elf Warrior

Orange

Nerwen
Aganzir
Sally
Eönwë

Yellow

Shasta
Boro
Kath
Durelin
Eomer
Nogrod
Sixth
THE Ka
Form
Nilp
Mith
McCaber

Green

Rikae

EDIT: X'd with Boro, Nog, Ka

[Aganzir]

Originally Posted by THE Ka

*looks at watch* - One... two, and three. Right on schedule.

I was wondering when you'd immediately add me to the evil list. Tisk, tisk, Aganzir you're growing a bit forgetful. Or is it just because you remembered you'll never let poor Radagast rest?

I know I have serious traumas and I'm working on them, I really am! But this time only your role tempted me to do that.

Originally Posted by Boromir88

I did read the votepost Nogrod, and there's nothing forced about it. It looks more like Kitanna found something she thought is suspicious and thus voted for Nerwen.

I think the tone is somehow apologetic or over-explanatory. But I'm not too concerned about her because her posting looks more innocentish otherwise.

Originally Posted by Rikae

much like Maglor's wife observed in Legolas after he swallowed his own hand and turned into a werewolf.

Have you been reading some fanfic of your own writing?

There's something that is bugging me about Rikae right now. Today seems to be one of those days I can't find proper reasons for my thoughts, but something makes me uneasy. I don't know... She looks like she was weaving a complicated web with truth and lies shattered all around. That's the best I can explain the feeling.
Or making shoes.

Originally Posted by Mith

Why Sixth? I know he has only posted once but he wasn't entirely IC?

I assume you were asking this from me, but I'll answer even if you weren't.
He had one IC joke in his first (and only) post, and then he accused Nerwen, half-jokingly and also with IC reasons. Wolves often throw random suspicion around and wait for someone to carry it on. That's why I'm also suspicious of Nerwen.
Out of those who have posted little and mostly in character, he's the most suspicious.

edit: xed with sally and Mith

[Nogrod]

Originally Posted by Aganzir

Wolves often throw random suspicion around and wait for someone to carry it on.

That's one thing they do. But the thing I've found them doing more often is waiting for any decent or half-decent suspicions to raise up and then go for it - stronger or milder eg. trying to turn it into a major suspicion or just going with the flow and getting an excuse for their vote.

Looking things from this anlgle would point at least to Eönwë and Kitanna and little less on The Sixth. Both Eönwë and Kitanna had only picked up the talk of the town and managed to include all three in their suspicions (Nilp / Form / Nerwen). I do understand what you people (Boro and Agan) see as innocentish in Kit - I see it as well and am thence a bit worried about voting for her. But I do also see her over-consciousness or carefulness or whatever you'd call it. Also her answer to my quite slight note on that caused a kind of stiff reaction I didn't like.

[Durelin]

Ah, I missed that statement about Nerwen, Mith, which was in the post previous to the one I was paraphrasing (#63 was the one I talked about).

Too bad Shasta and Eomer can't just duel and get a few things out of the way.

(Edited because I figured I should really mention who my first statement was directed to!)

[Mithalwen]

Why Sixth? I know he has only posted once but he wasn't entirely IC?

Formendacil's vote is still niggling me a bit ..... and he was very pompous and used eucatastrophe twice.... that word - I never really understand it .... but he was first up. Could be most annoying.... despite great competition.

My head hurts ... I have lists but the categories are "Trappists, Loons and Irritants" I think I had better keep that one to myself. However some of the Trappists have been amusing even when they have made their isolated posts. Kitanna has been very confident, perhaps the least in character though the last post could be taken either as IC or serious and therefore somewhat defensive.

[THE Ka]

Originally Posted by Lobelia

Ka, you're a hacker! Defend yourself!

*looks at watch* - One... two, and three. Right on schedule.

I was wondering when you'd immediately add me to the evil list. Tisk, tisk, Aganzir you're growing a bit forgetful. Or is it just because you remembered you'll never let poor Radagast rest?

I find this level of regression a bit alarming Lobelia, but I assure you that I am willing to put the past aside for the sake of this game if you are. Right now, I don't find you that suspicious. I mean, I can't see Brinn making you a wolf/hacker again after the last few games. It's too predictable.
If you are, then I know that the universe has lost all sense of surprise.

Thanks Mith. I was thinking about the Id, but I assumed that Eomer might have meant something a bit more on the Superego spectrum. Then I became a bit confused. Freud has never been one of my favourable interests, but I try to make sure I can identify a bit of his behavior.
I'm more in the sociological field. In which case, I would have to say that Eomer's experience in the business subculture has become one of his ascribed roles, and possibly a master status in his reasoning. Though, his assumed role as a form member is causing a bit of social inconsistency. Which is perfectly fine, we all have some inconsistency.

I'm sure a bunch of people are gun-ho about voting for Agan-Nilp-Form bangwagon, but I dunno. I'll feel horribly disappointed in the universe if Agan at least is a hacker out of the three. I need an existential detective, and more time on choosing my horribly random vote to go with all the life drama of the first day.

~ Ka

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

I've been fishing, fishing for less than nonsense in this sea of Melkor's discord . . . and very few rise up to take the bait. How am I to fish for the truth now?

Aganzir doesn't feel like she's playing any chord of Melkor's dissonance yet.

Nerwen, as Mandos has told me earlier, looks innocent.

Kitanna and Eomer worries the mind of Manwë.

My mother Mithalwen is in Lórien's peace.

PS. Boromir o' the Numbers, this is a different Eönwë, one with diacritical marks. The other Eonwe, alas, has not been seen in the circles of the World for a long time.

[Eönwë]

Originally Posted by Nilpaurion Felagund

this is a different Eönwë, one with diacritical marks. The other Eonwe, alas, has not been seen in the circles of the World for a long time.

Yes 'tis true. But hopefully I will share the skill that comes with the name (after all, in the book he is the greatest warrior for good- I'm sure Nilp knows the quote by heart- ever).

edit: x-ed with Mith. But then this is WW.

[Eönwë]

Originally Posted by Aganzir

Yet it was Nerwen who first brought up the A/N/F thing you just agreed on.

And anyway, it was a Nilp-Form thing and then you, Aganzir just joined in actually.

[Aganzir]

Originally Posted by Eönwë

And anyway, it was a Nilp-Form thing and then you, Aganzir just joined in actually.

What was?
If we're talking to one another, does it make it a thing?

I could say I'm very suspicious of that Agan/Mith/Eönwë thing, they spoke about everything unnecessary for a while during the later part of day 1. And both Agan and Mith explained how to check Who's posted to Eönwë! At least one of them must be a wolf, but I don't know yet who.

edit: xed with Mith, Eönwë and Eomer

[Eönwë]

Originally Posted by Aganzir

What was?

Large argument. -Ish.

Originally Posted by Aganzir

If we're talking to one another, does it make it a thing?

I could say I'm very suspicious of that Agan/Mith/Eönwë thing, they spoke about everything unnecessary for a while during the later part of day 1. And both Agan and Mith explained how to check Who's posted to Eönwë! At least one of them must be a wolf, but I don't know yet who.

I could tell that that was going to come. But you do make a point.

[Boromir88]

PS. Boromir o' the Numbers, this is a different Eönwë, one with diacritical marks. The other Eonwe, alas, has not been seen in the circles of the World for a long time.~Nilp

I mistook an identity? You know I've not only had my identity mistaken, but have had it stolen. I bet I'm the only person here who has experienced that.

I really don't see why Sixth is that suspicious and it slightly worries me that Sally has jumped into vote for him after Agan and Boro have voiced suspicion - it looks a bit opportunistic and safe.~Mith

I'm curious to hear why you don't think Sixth looks suspicious. Also, jumping on sally's vote for Sixth looks far too easy, I don't buy it. Maybe sally thought the same thing as I did, I just managed to get my post in first.

One thing I want to ask sally is, was your early accusations against Nerwen in jest? What other reason is there for you backing off and voting for Sixth?

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

The second theme has been played, it seems.

Should we not wait for the heretical Sixth Wizard to defend his only post before we jump at his throat?

[Nogrod]

Originally Posted by Boromir88

One thing I want to ask sally is, was your early accusations against Nerwen in jest? What other reason is there for you backing off and voting for Sixth?

I think she will not be back to answer your question but it kind of raised my eyebrows how many people actually backed off from suspecting Nerwen (Nilp, Eomer...). Does that say anything is another matter. It may be they just joked first and then got into a bussiness-mode or then their first suspicions were hairy in their origin and they backtracked in time hoping to avoid joining the lynchmob of an innocent (whether Nerwen is innocent that is).

[Eönwë]

hmmmm.... Only 50 minutes to decide who gets lynched.

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

I didn't exactly ''back off'' accusing Nerwen, Nogrod, unless you mean I stopped going on about HOW OFFENSIVE & STOOPID she was being, in a ridiculous IC way.

Nevertheless, I shall not disappoint you in backing right onto her again (oo er! not sure what that sounds like). Aganzir has utterly sworded the idea since so there's no need to repeat that, but Nerwen's willingness to see patterns in interactions, and ''throw stuff against the wall to see what sticks'' is dodgy. Eonwe, of course, agreed with her, and add that to his jumping on Aganzir.

Aganzir, I like. She's speaking sense so I'm definitely wanting to keep her around. Boromir too.

Others I haven't got quite a grip on yet, but Nerwen, Eonwe and Mithalwen are my three wolves at the moment. I'd bet my $8 frappuccino on Mith anyway.

++MITHALWEN

Goodnight

[satansaloser2005]

Come on people, let's not leave this to Brinn to (kind of) decide. Ties suck.



EDIT: Oh G'lord. x'd since Rikae.

[Aganzir]

++ Sixth

edit: xed with Nog

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

Kath random-votes. At least she's honest. Of course, a random-vote during Day 1 is nearly guaranteed not to be followed up, making it quite safe (and possibly wolf-on-wolf). (Shasta)

With 12 votes still remaining? I doubt a wolf-on-wolf vote would have been a viable strategy then, especially since Eönwë is suspicious.

I would like to see some reasoning behind this list [of Nilp's]: (Aganzir)

It's called gauging reactions. Most of the time I can't do it on WW cos of time restrictions on my part, but since I said I'll be taking this game more seriously (hence the waking up at 5am to participate in DAY-end activities*), I thought I could use it this time. It works most of the time for me with real people.

I'm rather crestfallen that Durelin and Nogrod didn't react.

I see, though, I don't need to provoke reaction from you. You give it to me freely.
__________________
*Though toDAY I can't. Wake up at 5am, that is.

[Aganzir]

Originally Posted by Nilpaurion Felagund

It's called gauging reactions.

I am not sure how versatile reactions you get when your accusations come out of nowhere and have no reasons behind them. Either people demand an explanation or ignore them as jokes.

And of course I give my reaction freely. It's all about openness, you know. And I have nothing to hide.

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

It's disappointing that I have to vote soon, and the DAY hasn't even advanced beyond its starting page.

Shasta is quite helpful. I'd like to keep him around.

sally my daughter is having fun. (I hope you did get to watch the Dr. Who finale, vzv, so you can get back to contributing. )

FormenDAGA can't get over his hatred for DAY 1s. I share your pain, brother, but it's already DAY 2. Even if we don't have a NIGHT kill (which, I agree, would have been a treasure trove of solid information), we still have the rather exciting voting from yesterDAY. Use it.

The Elf-Warrior remains cryptic.

Eönwë is quite prickly toDAY. *rubs chin*

Aganzir wants me. I don't think you're ready for this jelly.

I am not sure how versatile reactions you get when your accusations come out of nowhere and have no reasons behind them. Either people demand an explanation or ignore them as jokes. (Aganzir)

Which is a reaction in itself; I can live with either. And of course they'd have no reason yet; it was the 1st page of DAY 1, and I was trying to get discussion flowing away from IC posting.

Eomer is . . . Wargy. Whatever that means--which I don't.

2. Nilpaurion Felagund. Described the events as a ''train wreck''. Hardly. Just because we lynched an innocent? That usually happens in Werewolf. It gives us stuff to talk about the next day.

As I said, we need not have killed an villager who didn't get to defend himself . . . Although I remember in WWVII that you were rather eager to protect the cannon fodder--me. Hmmm . . . What to make of this.

Blah, I'll play a game of DoTA with the accursed AI+ first before I vote. Hope to see more of you then.

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

++Eönwë

He remains the most suspicious for me. He hasn't done anything to assuage my suspicions from DAY 1.

That's it from me. Good DAY.

[Kitanna]

Originally Posted by Shasta

Kath random-votes. At least she's honest. Of course, a random-vote during Day 1 is nearly guaranteed not to be followed up, making it quite safe (and possibly wolf-on-wolf).

Do you think there'd be wolf-on-wolf voting so early?

Originally Posted by Nerwen

Seriously, I don't find her particularly suspicious. Eomer and Eönwë have jumped on her for jumping on Sally for jumping on Sixth... what a mess.

Originally Posted by Nogrod

I saw Eönwë's vote just now... Well he did exactly what I had said he has been doing and which I think is suspicious (jumping on other's ideas) and voted for Mith. I'm not sure if he just lacks ideas or whether he might act that way as a wolf. I mean it looks just too bold to do that for a wolf.

Originally Posted by The Elf-warrior

++The Sixth Wizard

If this is suspicious so be it.

Random or not you must have known Sixth wizard had garnered a fair number of votes already.

Originally Posted by Boro

Yesterday Nerwen looked like an easy target for the wolves, today I'm not so sure. She's still posting frequently, but the posts are all empty.

A worrying truth indeed. Nerwen's posts are one liners, ICs, with an occasional post that clarifies or half-heatedly accuses.

Votes
Early votes
Form
Kit

Votes that spread it out
Form
Kit
Sally
Mith
Eomer
Kath
Ka
Durelin
These are the first/only to cast a vote for a specific person.

"Bandwagoners"
Eonwe
Boro
Rikae
Elf-warrior
Nerwen
Agan
Noggie

Most suspicious
Eonwe- Voted not long after Eomer for Mith based on her vote for Sally who was the first to vote for Sixth
Boro- Next vote for Sixth
Elf-warrior- Third vote for Sixth
Agan-Tied Eonwe and Sixth, though a tie doesn't result in a double-lynch a tie remains a tie. If nothing else it confuses and muddles things especially close to deadline.
This is based purely on when and how they voted for, not their reasoning behind it.

Agan & Eonwe's look the most suspicious to me based on timing. Though I'm going to read through their posts before deciding fully how I feel about either.

edit: adding spaces

[Kitanna]

Eonwe-
He makes note of Nogrod, Nerwen, and Form as the spammer around the 58th post.

++Mithalwen

Because of the way she posts, as if she's hiding behind hersef being IC but not at the same time. Hard to explain what I mean. Also, her attitude seems slightrly suspicious

I don't buy it. I feel the vote placing, the reasoning, the time, they all feel off. It all feels too neat and tidy.
Eonwe's vote comes out of the blue and it comes right after Eomer's vote for Mith.

Agan

Sixth. One post and speaks only of Nerwen, telling why we should vote for her.

This is Agan's first mention of Sixth as suspicious. Not much malice here. I said something similar in regards to Sixth's only post.

Sixth. Nothing's changed since my first post.

Again, but why? It seemed like Sixth's only post was made in jest.

Nerwen. She makes me uncomfortable and looks both guilty and innocent so I rather label her guilty. I don't know - there's something in the way she suspects people.

At this point it felt like you would have more of a case for Nerwen than Sixth.

I am planning to vote in an hour since I would love to get to sleep a bit earlier than during the last few days, and if I had to vote now it'd probably be for Sixth.

He had one IC joke in his first (and only) post, and then he accused Nerwen, half-jokingly and also with IC reasons. Wolves often throw random suspicion around and wait for someone to carry it on. That's why I'm also suspicious of Nerwen.

But if Sixth were a wolf, I'd say he'd have appeared again to defend/stir the pot elsewhere. Rather than disappearing.
In Agan's first posts there were a few of cutting down the IC chatter.

I feel uncomfortable with the way Nilp is now turning accusations from Nerwen and Sixth to people who suspect(ed) them.

Post 121 Agan votes for Sixth. It was clear that's where the vote was going. Sixth was a constant in her posts from the beginning. But the reasoning, everything based on his first and only post.

Timing wise, Eonwe looks worst. Reasoning wise, they look equal. Eonwe just jumps onto Mith after no previous mention. A constant in Agan's suspicions was Sixth so though her vote was placed in the midst of a bandwagon it was clear she had intentions to vote for Sixth.

If Agan is a hacker she's a sloppy or very clever one. I can't see a hacker basing everything on one IC post, especially after looking for people to move away from IC posts. No, that doesn't feel like a hacker to me, a spammer maybe.

Eonwe on the other hand is playing carefully. Taking up another suspicions after Mith places her vote for Sally. Yet, he never mentions her vote for Sally in his own vote. He pretty much says she "feels off" without prior mention.

[Aganzir]

Originally Posted by Kitanna

Agan-Tied Eonwe and Sixth, though a tie doesn't result in a double-lynch a tie remains a tie. If nothing else it confuses and muddles things especially close to deadline.

So I should always vote for the one who has the most votes at that moment even though I'm planning to get someone else lynched, because ties are confusing? Ai-ai, I don't buy your reasoning.

Originally Posted by Nerwen

I thought it was obvious: the fact that they tried to get me lynched for saying that.

Originally Posted by Nerwen

Just the way you seemed perfectly happy to get either Sixth or me lynched.

I might have troubles with my memory, but I cannot remember trying to get you lynched on day 1. Why? Because I didn't even consider voting for you then.
I suspected you, though not as much as today. I was accusing you. But I found it unlikely that I would end up voting for you. If I don't have any very strong suspicions I rather vote for the more silent one.

Originally Posted by Nerwen

I see. A change of plans, eh?

Which plans?

Nerwen has been talking more or less nonsense to a scary extent (and I'm not referring to chatspeak now ). There's definitely something uncharacteristical in her behaviour - random accusations, poor reasoning, twisting the truth...

Originally Posted by Kitanna

Again, but why? It seemed like Sixth's only post was made in jest.

Because that post was suspicious. Had it been wolfish, if people had started suspecting Nerwen it would have been easy for Sixth to continue it; if not, if he had got suspected for it himself, he could have said it was merely a jest.

Originally Posted by Kitanna

But if Sixth were a wolf, I'd say he'd have appeared again to defend/stir the pot elsewhere. Rather than disappearing.

He's one of the quieter players anyway so I wouldn't have counted on that.

Originally Posted by Form

Agan's vote, rightly or wrongly, strikes me in such a way as to suggest a similar attitude towards the likelihood of analysing a wolf out of the struggle, and while definitely not random, it's almost as if she's voting for Sixth with the attitude of "if we can't find a wolf, let's at least get rid of the deadwood"

*gives Form a cookie*

My list right now looks like this:

Guilty
Nerwen for reasons mentioned, and my favourite lynching candidate for today.
Nilp for reasons mentioned.
EW. I don't like him, either. But I'd like to point out that, if I remember correctly, the last time I played with him he was suspected for pretty much the same reasons and was innocent, so although suspicious, his behaviour isn't necessarily wolfish. But he definitely isn't of much help to the village, and if those are to be lynched, it should be done early. I'm too lazy to dig deeper into his posts right now to search for clearly wolfish vibes, but mostly because of my opinion expressed in the previous sentence he gets onto the list.

Innocent
Boro because he speaks sense and I agree with him too much.
Rikae because she speaks sense and I agree with her too much, although this worries me a bit. I have a feeling I should suspect her.
Mithalwen because she just looks innocent (although she hasn't claimed innocence yet).
Shasta strikes me as innocent, and as he's helpful, I'd rather not lynch him.
Eomer. I think I could actually say the same - I think quite the same way as he, so I won't be going after him at least for a while.
Ka, for now. I have this naive idea that she might not suspect me if she was a wolf. Well, not that she did it that much, but... Though I will be keeping an eye on her since she can be very cunning.
Nogrod feels innocent enough to get on the list, but I don't trust him.
Eönwë. I can't see anything that suspicious about him. Maybe because he's still relatively new to ww and somehow I believe he would be more apparent if a wolf.

Neither
Kitanna. I admit she has valid points in suspecting me, but I can't really trust anyone I know for sure is accusing an innocent.
Kath. Where is she?
Durelin. Where is she?
sally. No idea.
Form leaves me baffled.

edit: xed with Ka