Werewolf XLVIII: When Virtual Becomes Reality

[Kitanna]

I was hoping someone would post before I have to go to work. But since no one has I will just present my list of what I think thus far. The list is based on those who have posted and the impression their post(s) made on me.

Moderately Suspicious-
Agan, Nilp, & Form- Their back and forth posts together suggests a hacker among them. Maybe even two, but I am more inclined to believe there is just one. Though I am not so sure as to which one yet. Form is the only one to have voted thus far, but I feel no malice with his vote or reasoning toward early voting.
Nerwen- Her short, IC posts obviously say little, but her more serious posts give little to go on as well. I'd like to see what she has to say about the Agan/Nilp/Form brawl she mentioned in her last post.
The Elf-warrior- A few yes or no questions, but hasn't said anything since. I put moderately suspicious because even though the two posts were in character Elf-warrior was quick to jump to his own defense.

Originally Posted by Elf-Warrior

For the record, I am not a party to the murder of the Barrow-Wight.

I find it suspicious because no one had put out any lists or anything yet. It always unsettles me for early defenses/ for the record statements so early.
The Sixth Wizard- Quick to advocate a vote for Nerwen. It seems in character, but I'll label this as a gut feeling because I don't get much from his post.
Unsure-
Kath- She said she wouldn't be around much today, so for right now I have no concern for her. We'll see what tomorrow brings.
Boromir 88- I really just want to see more from him before forming more than a joke suspicion from my first post.
satansaloser2005- Nothing much can be gathered from her first post.
Eonwe- Same as many of the others here in my unsure bin.
Durelin, Eomer, Mith & Shasta- ^ Same

I have no suspicions that absolutely scream out to me as "Hacker!" which is why I have two categories here. Right now there's no one person I feel too strongly about in regards to guilt or innocence. So my vote (whcih will be in the next twenty minutes) will be selected from my moderately suspicious list. I can hope and dream there's an influx of posts between then and now, but I doubt that. So we shall see, eh?

[Eönwë]

There's not much to work with, but...

Originally Posted by Kitanna

Agan, Nilp, & Form- Their back and forth posts together suggests a hacker among them. Maybe even two, but I am more inclined to believe there is just one. Though I am not so sure as to which one yet. Form is the only one to have voted thus far, but I feel no malice with his vote or reasoning toward early voting.?

This is true. One of them might very well be a hacker. But we haven't seen enough of anyone to really be certain.

Nerwen is doing anything useful. She's just randomly posting stuff. Spamming the thread, methinks. In fact, maybe she's our spammer. Or is that Nilp. He's not making much sense or anything of his posts. I'd better ponder this further...

edit: to bolden names.

[Durelin]

Originally Posted by Agan

But we're not exactly in Middle-earth now. We're in the Barrow-Downs meeting.

From the RPG proposal on the discussion thread:

Starting Location: Rivendell, Middle-earth (for the council)
Likely Destination: Mt. Doom, Mordor, Middle-earth

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The game takes place in the Seventh Age around the year 2008.

Anyway.

Eomer amuses me. He feels frighteningly familiar... Boro amuses me. A lot. There's something about Formendacil's attitude I like. Kitanna is boring, and her vote is even more boring. The Sixth Wizard amuses me. Nogrod's role is just too Nogrod. I want to see how long Nilp keeps his role up. Elf-warrior's first post amuses me.

I guffaw at this:

Originally Posted by Eonwe

Wow, I can't believe the Barrow-Wight is dead. How will we survive without him? How will this forum survive without him? What are we going to do?

I say we get these hackers!

Everyone I have not mentioned yet...don't feel too bad.

[THE Ka]

Originally Posted by Eomer

This pshycology class basicaly says that, like, people, will show themselves if ur clever enough to see inside their souls. So because I've been taking these classes I think I could really help us find the hackers.

Souls and psychology? You mean a freudian method?

I need Mith to translate this, if you please.

Originally Posted by Nerwen

WARE R U GUYS??!!!111!!!!!

'ware' the whether the weather of what? I think I was sleeping, because that is what normal people do in my timezone at 5 am.

Nerwen seems thoroughly drenched in the art of chatspeak, maybe she knows how to translate hacker. Or Boro's dictionary does.
Either way, I find her amusing. We should keep her around and see what happens. That or, some of the hackers are taking full advantage of our complete attention to try and translate her posts. Hmmm, conflict.

Form reminds me of an eagle scout. Which, if he is conspiring with the hackers, that could be a bit dangerous.

Sorry that I don't have much to say, but it's a bit of a busy day. More than likely I am going to have to vote randomly toDay, unfortunately. So much for sleeping in.

~ Ka

[Mithalwen]

Originally Posted by THE Ka

Souls and psychology? You mean a freudian method?

I need Mith to translate this, if you please.




~ Ka

Well Ka, as an atheist, Freud means the innermost being. We certainly could interpret today's events as being caused by the Ids of the hackers getting the upper hand, a conflict of libido and thanatos. Of course psychoanalysis is not a quick fix and the interpretation of dreams is probably not appropriate at this stage. We could try some free association? Or maybe Jung and see what the collective unconscious can provide lets not go with Laing - that could cause all sorts of problems.

Aiee I got distracted again. I have had a look at the posting numbers and Nerwen is certainly noisiest by a long way but then others have been sooo quiet. Over posting can be significant but so can quietness. I can stay about an hour but I do hope things will pick up. It seems a bit ironic that two "talkers" are the only ones voted for so far. I thought this would be a super noisy game but it seems to be being played by a lot of trappists so far.

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

Whoa, Mithalwen, you're totally, well, dodgy to me. You keep talking about there being a lack of talking and how people have to say more, but, really, two things ........... 1. ur not saying much urself and 2. it's day 1 silly!?! There's not much going on!!!1?

Maybe your tryng to act all like your helpful and all that jazz?!? Because your laboring the point.

[Eönwë]

Originally Posted by Mithalwen

I have had a look at the posting numbers

How do you do that?

[Mithalwen]

Well at the risk of sounding suspiciously helpfulyou go to the Mirth thread list and click on the number of replies and it will give you a breakdown by member. It is always interesting to know who has been posting and how much.

[Boromir88]

I was wondering how long Nerwen would keep up her wildly headaching causing chatspeak. I am wondering whether some are suspicious of her because they actually believe she is a hacker, or if she's just annoying us all with her chatspeak.

Case and point, Kitanna's suspicions and The Sixth's:

Nerwen jumps out because she posts often and says little. Granted most of her posts were in character jargon and her most recent ones are serious and moving away from IC, but she makes a note to say those who make long lists, but say nothing are suspicious. I find people who make frequent short posts that say nothing equally suspicious. Which is why I now vote for Nerwen. Though she is only moderately suspicious in my eyes she stands out from the others on my list.~Kitanna

Wow, Nerwen is making my brain hurt. I say we vote her because:

a) Reading that kind of text will be really annoying later in the game for everyone.

b) Nerwen knows this and if she really is a wolf and she survives, she will go under the radar later in the game. (I personally am NOT going to read that in a longer post than three lines, it hurts my head)~The Sixth

Kitanna's reasoning makes her look innocent (to me), she brings up a valid reason for the suspicions against Nerwen. I disagree with what Nogrod thinks about it.

Kitanna feels like she tries and tries to find anything even remotely called a reason for her vote... just read her votepost and you may see what I mean. There is something forced in there to my eye.

I did read the votepost Nogrod, and there's nothing forced about it. It looks more like Kitanna found something she thought is suspicious and thus voted for Nerwen.

The Sixth's reasoning is forced, since Nerwen is annoying, let's lynch her before she slips under the radar. And oh plus there's no one else.

teh n00b eönwë casts random suspic10ns on ppl. probaly just his r0le. he mite be usng it as cover tho.~Nerwen

Don't assume Eonwe is a noob, or we could all be in trouble. In a past life Eonwe was my wolf partner and he survived longer than me. His cunning had the village in a circle until the seer spotted him.

Eonwe's approach so far reminds me of one that I have tried. Aggressive, in your face, asking questions, and sparking responses. I must say I am much better at it than he, but I think he's innocent.

More will come after dinner.

[Aganzir]

Originally Posted by Nerwen

–It's starting to look to me like there's a wolf somewhere in this Agan/Nilp/Form brawl that's just started up. Not sure who it is.

This is not a rhetorical question, I want an answer. Why does it look like that? Is there some special way wolves can make people around them talk like they do? We three have just caught your attention, but is there something that should really suggest that at least one of us is a wolf?
I could ask the same from Kitanna. Just how do back and forth posts together suggest that there's a hacker or two?

Originally Posted by Kitanna

I'd say don't encourage or discourage IC posts, some may be more useful tomorrow or some may remain simple rubbish and mean nothing.

And also some OOC posts may be more useful tomorrow while some remain simple rubbish. The question is whether I rather read posts written in chat speak or proper English.

Originally Posted by Nogrod

Form backs it twice: saying it's a random one and using IC reasons (I know he used to be the most staunch Day1-hater there was but still that is pretty much downgrading the whole Day 1). Kitanna feels like she tries and tries to find anything even remotely called a reason for her vote... just read her votepost and you may see what I mean. There is something forced in there to my eye.

I agree. Otherwise at least Kitanna feels somewhat innocentish, though, and I wouldn't vote for either of them now based only on that.

Originally Posted by Eönwë

This is true. One of them might very well be a hacker. But we haven't seen enough of anyone to really be certain.

Nerwen is doing anything useful.

Yet it was Nerwen who first brought up the A/N/F thing you just agreed on.

Ka, you're a hacker! Defend yourself!

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Guilty
Elf-Warrior. Nothing's changed since my first post.
Sixth. Nothing's changed since my first post.
Durelin. This is my most random suspicion this far, and I don't know a certain reason for it but her post(s) brought the word 'cobbler' into my mind.
Nerwen. She makes me uncomfortable and looks both guilty and innocent so I rather label her guilty. I don't know - there's something in the way she suspects people.
sally. I feel uneasy about her for a reason I don't know.

Innocent
Mith
Kitanna
Nogrod
Eönwë

Neither
Kath
Shasta
Ka
Nilp
Boro
Eomer
Form
Rikae
McC

[Eönwë]

Originally Posted by Aganzir

Yet it was Nerwen who first brought up the A/N/F thing you just agreed on.

Doesn't make it her idea

[Aganzir]

Originally Posted by Eönwë

Doesn't make it her idea

But if she says something you find clever and can agree about, I think you shouldn't say she isn't doing anything.

Originally Posted by Eönwë

How do you do that?

By clicking Replies between Last Post and Views on the Mirth (or any else) forum.

I am planning to vote in an hour since I would love to get to sleep a bit earlier than during the last few days, and if I had to vote now it'd probably be for Sixth.

edit: xed with Mith

[THE Ka]

Originally Posted by Lobelia

Ka, you're a hacker! Defend yourself!

*looks at watch* - One... two, and three. Right on schedule.

I was wondering when you'd immediately add me to the evil list. Tisk, tisk, Aganzir you're growing a bit forgetful. Or is it just because you remembered you'll never let poor Radagast rest?

I find this level of regression a bit alarming Lobelia, but I assure you that I am willing to put the past aside for the sake of this game if you are. Right now, I don't find you that suspicious. I mean, I can't see Brinn making you a wolf/hacker again after the last few games. It's too predictable.
If you are, then I know that the universe has lost all sense of surprise.

Thanks Mith. I was thinking about the Id, but I assumed that Eomer might have meant something a bit more on the Superego spectrum. Then I became a bit confused. Freud has never been one of my favourable interests, but I try to make sure I can identify a bit of his behavior.
I'm more in the sociological field. In which case, I would have to say that Eomer's experience in the business subculture has become one of his ascribed roles, and possibly a master status in his reasoning. Though, his assumed role as a form member is causing a bit of social inconsistency. Which is perfectly fine, we all have some inconsistency.

I'm sure a bunch of people are gun-ho about voting for Agan-Nilp-Form bangwagon, but I dunno. I'll feel horribly disappointed in the universe if Agan at least is a hacker out of the three. I need an existential detective, and more time on choosing my horribly random vote to go with all the life drama of the first day.

~ Ka

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

I've been fishing, fishing for less than nonsense in this sea of Melkor's discord . . . and very few rise up to take the bait. How am I to fish for the truth now?

Aganzir doesn't feel like she's playing any chord of Melkor's dissonance yet.

Nerwen, as Mandos has told me earlier, looks innocent.

Kitanna and Eomer worries the mind of Manwë.

My mother Mithalwen is in Lórien's peace.

PS. Boromir o' the Numbers, this is a different Eönwë, one with diacritical marks. The other Eonwe, alas, has not been seen in the circles of the World for a long time.

[Eönwë]

Originally Posted by Nilpaurion Felagund

this is a different Eönwë, one with diacritical marks. The other Eonwe, alas, has not been seen in the circles of the World for a long time.

Yes 'tis true. But hopefully I will share the skill that comes with the name (after all, in the book he is the greatest warrior for good- I'm sure Nilp knows the quote by heart- ever).

edit: x-ed with Mith. But then this is WW.

[Eönwë]

Originally Posted by Aganzir

Yet it was Nerwen who first brought up the A/N/F thing you just agreed on.

And anyway, it was a Nilp-Form thing and then you, Aganzir just joined in actually.

[Aganzir]

Originally Posted by Eönwë

And anyway, it was a Nilp-Form thing and then you, Aganzir just joined in actually.

What was?
If we're talking to one another, does it make it a thing?

I could say I'm very suspicious of that Agan/Mith/Eönwë thing, they spoke about everything unnecessary for a while during the later part of day 1. And both Agan and Mith explained how to check Who's posted to Eönwë! At least one of them must be a wolf, but I don't know yet who.

edit: xed with Mith, Eönwë and Eomer

[satansaloser2005]

Come on people, let's not leave this to Brinn to (kind of) decide. Ties suck.



EDIT: Oh G'lord. x'd since Rikae.