Tol-in-Gaurhoth L: Battle of the Fandoms

[Macalaure]

Oh, come on. Yes, half-random Day 1 votes aren't great, but not voting at all doesn't get us anywhere.

Also, those half-random votes often bring some insights with them on Day 2, and you have just elegantly dodged that for yourself...

[satansaloser2005]

Originally Posted by Captain

I really don't want to go out on a limb and vote to kill someone who, in all likelihood, will be innocent. I've toyed with the idea of voting for Day One, as it is pure evil and will keep a likely innocent in the game at least a night longer. But then again...we could get lucky.

I shall wait a little longer to vote...maybe I'll figure something out.

Edit: Well, I'm sticking to my guns. No random lynchings. I need something of substance.

++Day One

Seriously? No, really, you're bluffing right? This is one of those 'I'm going to let the Daleks think they can kill me but really my companion is bringing the TARDIS back in five minutes to save my behind' kind of things, right?


I just find this extremely....not good. (Late night, apologies. Off for a nap then I'll come back. And if I don't, as fair warning, it's because my computer's been acting up like none other.)

[McCaber]

Checking in here. Sorry I'm late, I had to finish laying the smackdown on a pack of dragons.

Here's my take on all this so far:
Boro seems innocent to me. Like someone said, I don't think a wolf would cause this much controversy early in the match.

Brin seems a little off to me, as does the Captain. Gwath and Mac both look fine by me.

So that's about all I got right now. I'll be back with my vote.

EDIT: crossed with Boro

[Shastanis Althreduin]

Boro, you of all people should know what assumptions do. And you're making a great many of them.

It's a pity Phantom isn't playing. I think you'd be perfect for a new rival, though.

[Boromir88]

Wow, I have been making a lot of assumptions, yet I don't see anyone refuting them; just a handful of people saying I'm fishy or troubling them.

[Feanor of the Peredhil]

Originally Posted by Shastanis Althreduin

It's a pity Phantom isn't playing. I think you'd be perfect for a new rival, though.

I was going to invite him, but I thought it was too late for him to join. I even started the bribing PM: "You know you want to play, right? Too late! I signed you up!"

Anyway...

Boromir, I'm watching you closely. Oh yes, very closely indeed.

[Nogrod]

Okay. I finally got home. I think I have a couple of things to say at last..

Btw. Boro, you should visit my Spore when it's ready. There the evolutionary mechanism will be trimmed with 100% causality with no errors eg. the mutations are preplanned and will execute themselves as supervised. That's intelligent design... Your empirical machine seems to be a bit rusty & random.

[Boromir88]

Your empirical machine seems to be a bit rusty & random.~Nogrod

Rusty? no. Random? Yes. The scary thing is I'm actually considering trusting it for my Day 1 vote, but I still find it to be more accurate than a dice roll or a hat pull.

The newer version, Bada Bing Bada Boom 2.0, I will be done with shortly, where I plan to successfully eliminate any randomness.

Fea, stare all you like.

Edit: By the way Nogrod...how is spore? I've played the demo, it's terribly addicting.

[McCaber]

I have to go soon, so here's my semirandom vote:

++CaptainofDespair

for cryptic remarks and other general nonsense.

EDIT: crossed with Boro .. again

[Nerwen]

Prior to CaptainofDespair's Day One vote, he is only mentioned in passing:

Nogrod lists him, along with Lalwendë, Macalaure, and Fea, as “Those who have not deviated from the IC-talk” (#22)
Lalwendë says of him, "No idea” (#61)
Macalaure: “*shrug*”

After the weird vote:

Originally Posted by Macalaure

Oh, come on. Yes, half-random Day 1 votes aren't great, but not voting at all doesn't get us anywhere.

Also, those half-random votes often bring some insights with them on Day 2, and you have just elegantly dodged that for yourself...

Originally Posted by satansaloser2005

Seriously? No, really, you're bluffing right? This is one of those 'I'm going to let the Daleks think they can kill me but really my companion is bringing the TARDIS back in five minutes to save my behind' kind of things, right? I just find this extremely....not good.

Originally Posted by McCaber

Brin seems a little off to me, as does the Captain.

Originally Posted by McCaber

++CaptainofDespair

for cryptic remarks and other general nonsense.

Originally Posted by satansaloser2005

Votes, but doesn't. At the same time, though, I've never played with Captain before, so I'll just leave this alone, at least for toDay.

Originally Posted by Isabellkya

I am off now..so, I suppose this is a throw away vote at best..

++CoD

Originally Posted by Nogrod

Boro, CoD & Brinn on two now. Of those I'd say Brinn might be the best choice but CoD has been annoying.

Originally Posted by Macalaure

Brinn, Gwath, and Captain D are on my list, neither of which I feel really confident voting...

Originally Posted by satansaloser2005

I'm between Boro and Brinn myself, unless something happens in these last ten(ish) minutes. I'd like to figure out what Captain's up to so I'm not too keen on that route. Bah, I'll send this and see what time the Downs says it is, then I may comment more.

Originally Posted by Mithalwen

If I have to choose between the current ones it will be CoD .. something too clever clever about the day 1 thing...

Originally Posted by Shastanis Althreduin

I'd hate to see CoD go this early, simply because he's a fascinating specimen I've never seen before.

Originally Posted by Macalaure

CoD, judging from his contributions today (no offense intended), would be the least of a loss if innocent.

++CaptainofDespair

Originally Posted by Boromir88

Umm I think CoD is going to be a victim for a wolf bandwagon

(Boro had 2 votes at this point himself)

Originally Posted by Nogrod

CoD is the "easy" lynch and therefore probably wrong... [

Originally Posted by satansaloser2005

It's true, Captain has been the least helpful, but that doesn't mean we have a Captain Fuzzball on our hands. I can't kill someone with good conscience when I have no idea what they're on about, at least not the first Day. (Votes Boro)

Originally Posted by Mithalwen

Would probably go for Shasta or Nogrod if there was a point but for bad reasons (not to lose Boro and Brin yet)

++ Captain of Despair

And here are the votes, with timing (GMT):

Rikae --> Sally (1:19 AM GMT).
Shasta --> Boro (6:42 AM)
Brinniel --> Mac (1:27 PM)
Gwath --> Rikae (1:49 PM)
CaptainofDespair --> Day One (2:29 PM)
McCaber --> CaptainofDespair (3:35 PM)
Lalwendë --> Brinniel (3:46 PM)

Last hour:

Feanor of the Peredhil --> Boro (04:02 PM) (Boro 2)
Isabellkya --> CaptainofDespair (04:41 PM) (CoD 2)
Kath --> Brinn (04:41 PM) (Brinn 2)

Last ten minutes:

Mac --> CaptainofDespair (4:56 PM) (CoD 3)
Nogrod --> Gwath (4:48 PM)
Sally --> Boro (4:59 PM) (notes that she crossed “with a host”) (Boro 3)
Mithalwen --> CaptainofDespair (4:59 PM) (CoD 4)
Boro --> Lalwendë (4:59) PM

Comments: As others have said, Sally is a little odd... she's one of the first to raise suspicion of CaptainofDespair, but then plays it down the tighter the noose gets around his neck. However, it's not as if there was a particularly good case against him.

I find Boro's behaviour most peculiar. His neck was on the line for the last hour– why didn't he vote one of the other leads to save himself? (True, I guess he couldn't have known about Sally's vote for him, but then he couldn't have known about Mith's for CoD either).

EDIT: X'd with Isabellkya, Sally, Brinniel and Gwath.
EDIT 2: Left out quotes.

[Nogrod]

First. Boro asked me what I thought of Rikae's declaration of ordinariness. Well, I'm mainly interested in the motive behind that move. I mean making that kind of opening isn't exactly the most hilarious joke or the most ingenious or fresh move. So why would Rikae make it? Also it's hard to see it as a spontaneous reaction to anything (when one reacts spontaneously one may let that kind of banalities out from her keyboard) as she had known her role almost two days altready and she opened her first post with it.

Now I do sympathise with Rikae if she is an innocent indeed as I really felt relaxed and overwhelmingly happy when I heard I was innocent in the last game after a long period of special roles. But to say it aloud in your first post... So why?

I wouldn't like to lynch her for that but the declaration certainly raises eyebrows.

Originally Posted by Boro

By the way Nogrod...how is spore?

Never played it as my PC is too old to run it... but I am the Spore anticipator as you know...

[Lalwendë]

My vote is cast for

++ Brinniel

For the following:

Originally Posted by Brinniel

Call it a backlash vote or whatever, but I can't help but feel uncomfortable about someone when they make a case against me based on a few short statements I made...especially when he knows I won't be around later to defend myself. I don't know if there'll be any accuracy in my vote, but I'm out of time and he's the first name that came up.

Alright, so she may be being honest, but there's honest and making too many apologies. And the best thing I have to go on during the first day is very basic psychology. Brinniel's behaviour best fits the bill for concealing a little too much.