Tol-in-Gaurhoth LI: The Pain of Wargs

[Nogrod]

A few words about the less seen ones...

Kath: OMG. How many times in a row does that woman get through Day1 with only posting at the last hours: "ohh, I almost forgot, have no time, see ya toMorrow"? It's no reason to suspect her of wolvery to be sure but this is becoming a habit with her. A habit that makes playing Day1 pretty annoying with her. How about we all took such an approach to Day1's and just counted on the fact that they won't lynch me because of that whatever one's role is? Surely no one wishes to get lynched on Day1 before the "real game" begins.

Shasta: A weird oneliner (in rhyme?) and a oneliner suggestion concerning the roles. So no role, no interest to play? Or is he planning to take his - permittedly deserved - revenge now?

Gaunt: one post specualating the set-up. I'd say we shgould give him the benefit of doubt toDay but we should require him to actually take part toMorrow.

Di & Groin? Who? Are they playing?

[Thinlómien]

Hahaha, Nogrod is getting heated with silent people... I missed this aspect of ww! On a more serious note, though, I too think some people should post more...

edit: xed with Legate

[Nogrod]

Heated? : cool :

But look at this...

Originally Posted by the post count (the mod removed)

Legate of Amon Lanc 10
Thinlómien 9
Nogrod 8
Mithalwen 6
Kitanna 6
Rune Son of Bjarne 6

Gwathagor 3
Gollum the Great 2
Shastanis Althreduin 2
SamwiseGamgee 2
Brinniel 2
Kath 1
Gaunt 1

I'm inclined to say I'd pick my vote from the last seven + the non-posters. I mean this is the quietest Day1 in ages!

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Originally Posted by Nogrod

I'm inclined to say I'd pick my vote from the last seven + the non-posters. I mean this is the quietest Day1 in ages!

True. I was at first about to say "Yes, I'm gonna to do that as well! Let's make this an example! Down with traitors!". But then I could not not add (hmph ): But what if the wolves are only among the vocal players? (Noooo! I have started it again. Sorry. )

But nah, I think I am most inclined to vote Samwise now. Otherwise, I would have to vote for somebody who really hasn't posted AT ALL, which... well... hmph. We can save that for Day 2... then we will have about half dozen a people from whom to pick on Day 2 just because of this reason

[Thinlómien]

A sudden silence...

edit: xed with Legate - great, now I'm laughing at myself

[Kitanna]

I have to vote and I have to do so now. The only person who has really raised my eyebrow in the last few hours is SamGam. The thing is I don't believe that vote was safe one because it was so reckless. I don't feel SamGam is particularly guilty due to that Brinn vote and I'd like to see more before casting any real suspicion his way.

I'm not a fan of random voting, but I usually find myself doing it on Day 1 either way. I'll probably pull a name from a hat and cast my vote that way seeing as there isn't a whole lot to look at that could sway me to vote for anyone based on reasoning and what have you.

cross posted with Nogrod:

*I still don't like Kitanna's post #28 and her answering-post #35 leaves unanswered the suspicion of her trying to help with the "easy lynch" (piling Sam, Gwath & Gollum)

I wasn't looking for an easy lynch. In fact I had/have no intention of trying to get any one of them lynched (today at least). I was just looking at them since those three were following Legate's example of piecing together the prophecy, but not providing much else.

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Okay. Let's sum this up.

I am not going to vote Brinniel, as I belive her explanation was genuine and hope that she'll be present tomorrow. I am not going to vote Rune, I am not going to vote neither Nogrod nor Mithalwen for I have no reason to. I am not going to vote Lommy nor Kitanna, because I don't have any particularly strong case against them. I am not going to vote the newbie Gollum on his first day, and how is that with Gaunt? But probably not as well. I won't vote these non-present ones, as they may still come at least tomorrow and explain what's been going on. Similarly with Kath... and this leaving Gwath, Shasta and Samwise, I probably won't go for Shasta with hope to see the "Shasta awakened" again, as I heard about him... and now I could vote Gwathagor, but that would be more of a "punishment" (being around the whole day and hardly posting), while I do have actual grounds for voting Samwise. As for what I said earlier, this is most probable how it's going to be.

In either case, I don't see it appropriate for any of those voted for already as being lynched now.

EDIT: x-ed with Kitanna

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

The votes are fine, Nogrod. I don't mind that they aren't on a separate line or anything like that.

There are fewer than ten minutes left.

[Thinlómien]

Hmmm... I reread the thread and I don't really suspect anyone enough that I would be comfortable with voting them. That's why I'd feel the most comfortable with voting someone who has contributed only a little. I would pardon Brinn and Kath for RL reasons, and Gaunt for newbieishness. Diamond and Groin haven't probably realised this game is going on - even though I did see Groin in "who's online" an hour or two ago and sent him a PM that he should be invisible as the game has started... but yes, I'd "pardon" them too. That kind of leaves Shasta...

edit: xed with Gwath (yay he's back!) and Eomer

[Nogrod]

Feeling innocentish by their posting:
Mith
Kitanna*
Gwath
Brinniel

No idea by posting (somehow innocentish - somehow suspicious) but are actually playing: one can be assured they can be read for and not just be guessed at in the later Days as they talk:
Legate
Lommy
Rune

Not posted too much but new to the game (benefit of doubt on Day1)
Gollum the Great
Gaunt

That leaves the non-posters so far, I don't think neither would try to get through Day1 as a villain by consciously not-posting - even if I don't like them being away either. Come forwards you two!
Diamond
Groin

So?:
Shastanis Althreduin
SamwiseGamgee
Kath

Somehow I'm not too happy with the outcome of this cross-tables... It looks too easy.

*I still don't like Kitanna's post #28 and her answering-post #35 leaves unanswered the suspicion of her trying to help with the "easy lynch" (piling Sam, Gwath & Gollum), but everything she has done after that looks very considerate and thoughtful and has very much tuned down my suspicions of her - unless she is in cahoots with either Legate or Samvais... but for Day1 that looks like a bit too far-fetched.

EDIT: X'd with LEgate and Lommy

[Nogrod]

Btw. Eomer, if you're around, would you confirm the votes this far as they have been made in a pretty un-orthodox way? (I mean a tight mod would say they both are invalid as they are not on a separate line, bolded and with two pluses in front of the name)

So is this right?

Samwise -> Brinn
Mith -> Lommy

[Nogrod]

And a second question to Eomer. Do we have more like 20+ minutes or 42 minutes left now at the stamp of this post?

[Kitanna]

Originally Posted by Nogrod

And a second question to Eomer. Do we have more like 20+ minutes or 42 minutes left now at the stamp of this post?

Either way the vote count is dismal considering how late in Day 1 it is.

++ Kath
I made a list of the names, closed my eyes, pointed and my finger landed on Kath.

Tomorrow I'd like to see something more on Day 2. This has been an eerily quiet day.

[Gwathagor]

Since I am also a bit confused regarding the DL, I am going to try to vote within the next couple of minutes, just to be safe.

[Nogrod]

An idea just occured to me I wished to share before the Day is over.

Now Eomer said this:

Ok, so this game will be a little bit experimental. I, of course, hope it goes swimmingly, but I will beg your forgiveness if it goes wrong. Here's hoping all's well, eh?

So it doesn't mean this game is "a little bit experimental" but a lot so!

Now what could it be?

Unleashing three to four teams of two (one each Night) upon a village would be a bit too rough for any village to bear. Even if the last one (the fourth) would be a super-good hero...

But how about we have two lovers brought forwards every Night? "They come in pairs".... Yes, he said on the Night1 post:

The two enemies of Wargs may talk and scheme

But an innocent lover might be called that as lovers would be allowed to talk and scheme and the innocent lover's interests would not be that of the Wargs in general...

Three (or four) competing lovers would feel like a possibly balanced game - something one might make the comments Eomer made "hoping all's well, eh?"

Somehow I get the feeling that's something Eomer might be trying.

Sadly there seems to be not enough people around to vote either Lommy or Legate to get rid of the first pair...

And this might be a bit far-fetched to be sure. But don't forget the idea!

[Kath]

Haha! Ah Nog you make me laugh. At least I'm only annoying to you on Day 1, you manage it the whole game. It is a habit with me to miss Day 1's - perhaps I should hire someone to phone me and remind me! Anyway, I did apologise and look! I made it back in time ... just. Very quick look at what's been going on and then a vote methinks.

Legate - begins with a parody on Day 1 style posting. A lot of analysis on the narration. Now, if there are all this different wolf teams this analysis could come just as easily from a wolf desperate to find out what's going on.

Lommy - 'if we're extra smart and lucky we can win this game easily' ... after explaining the perils of 4 wolves! Strikes me as a little optimistic given the available information. Lommy is being pretty enigmatic actually.

Rune - says different Gifted ideas would be a surprise in this game, I doubt it somehow!

Gollum - hmm.

Shasta - popping in post.

Samwise - not sure what he meant in his first post. That he was the first to post or that he was posting without a chance to later reply to anything?

Gwath - some interesting reasoning about the narration.

Kitanna - seems a bit time limited.

Brinn - I get this not wanting every detail analysed in the narration, it gets just too confusing!

Eek, my computer gives me one minute to vote and I'm not even through page 1 here, so I'm going to have to vote from where I've got to. The only person I read a post from and couldn't really get a lot out of was (hence the 'hmm):

++GOLLUM