Tol-in-Gaurhoth LI: The Pain of Wargs

[Rune Son of Bjarne]

Originally Posted by Legate of Amon Lanc

Standing out:
Rune Son of Bjarne - looks reasonable this far. Maybe somewhat more reasonable than usual, in the feeling I get from him, but for now, I have no reasons to suspect him.

Hey! I am always resonable. . .at least I think so.

I am suprised that you guys can say so much about so little, I know I am strugeling to find stuff to say about people.

Anyways, I understand what Legate is saying about Samwise, it has been seen before that vauge acusations followed up by nice words has been the tactic of chois. From what I have seen, I belive that Samwise is a crafty player no matter what side he is on. . . I think he is hard to judge and I would like him to stick around for another day, so I will not vote for him today.

Gollum:You should change your avy. . . I constantly think EVIL whenever I see your posts.

Brinniel: It is hard to say if her non-vote is because she is innocent and have that "I am going to do what I want atitude" or it is because she is evil.
I think we have all tried doing something that we knew would seem suspicous in the eyes of others, but went ahead and did it anyway.
Still I think it is very annoying that she did not vote. . .

Mithalwen: She has been active and said stuff, yet it is as if she has said nothing. . . I atleast get nothing from reading her posts. Had this been day 2 or 3 I would be sure it was because she was trying to hide in the open, but it is day 1 and that complicates things. I think I might vote for her today, but I am not sure yet.

EDIT: Cross Posted With Lommy & Nogrod

[Kath]

Eep, hello, Day 1 blues again here ... well, as in I forgot it was starting. To be honest I don't have any time to post now as we're about to go watch a film. If the deadline is 10pm I should be able to get back, make a quick post and vote. If I miss it I can only apologise, I'm writing this on the go as it is!

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Nice, some more posting going on...

Hmm... a few notes. Lommy: Makes me somewhat more aware than before, it's hard to define it, but simply put, I could say that I got the feeling from her post whether the intention with which she wrote her first summary back then was not different originally and now she only re-interpretated it in the light of what we others said about it. Also, she seems in any case to incline to suspect everybody - just for an example, this:

Originally Posted by Thinlómien

I think both our newbies (Gaunt and Gollum) look pretty innocent this far. Not too fishy or jumpy, as newbie wolves often are. Though it's too early to judge, of course.

I find it a little eyebrow-raising, just because I would not expect that conclusion. It's in the spirit of her first post, which I thought jok-y, because it's unusual (at least I don't recall her acting like that before, anyway) - "1+1=2, therefore a wolf." "2+2=4, therefore a wolf." She seems to look on everything from the worst possible perspective, which does not fit to her for me.

Also, Lommy seems to me intentionally going somewhat against the flow (like: "Kitanna is suspected, but I won't vote her"). Maybe really Mith's cobbler-theory has something in it...?

Originally Posted by Nogrod

If we lynch all the talkers on the first Days (and wolves kill the rest during the first Nights) we'll have a village where there is no game - as no one talks - and the wolves are free to roam.

Oh no, not again...

Originally Posted by Rune Son of Bjarne

Hey! I am always resonable. . .at least I think so.

Yes, actually I think so too! But I said: more than usual. But maybe I am just more attentive of it.

Brinniel: It is hard to say if her non-vote is because she is innocent and have that "I am going to do what I want atitude" or it is because she is evil.
I think we have all tried doing something that we knew would seem suspicous in the eyes of others, but went ahead and did it anyway.
Still I think it is very annoying that she did not vote. . .

Yes, that's a problem, but I say: okay, now she says she simply doesn't have time etc. and won't vote, all right then. But then let's see what she behaves like tomorrow!

EDIT: x-ed with Kath and those after her

[Thinlómien]

Originally Posted by Legate of Amon Lanc

Nice, some more posting going on...

Hmm... a few notes. Lommy: Makes me somewhat more aware than before, it's hard to define it, but simply put, I could say that I got the feeling from her post whether the intention with which she wrote her first summary back then was not different originally and now she only re-interpretated it in the light of what we others said about it. Also, she seems in any case to incline to suspect everybody - just for an example, this:

I find it a little eyebrow-raising, just because I would not expect that conclusion. It's in the spirit of her first post, which I thought jok-y, because it's unusual (at least I don't recall her acting like that before, anyway) - "1+1=2, therefore a wolf." "2+2=4, therefore a wolf." She seems to look on everything from the worst possible perspective, which does not fit to her for me.

What? You suspect me for seeing everything in suspicious light and use as an example a quote where I say two players seem rather innocentish? And I really have no idea where did that point of yours originate from in the first place, unless it was from the accusation-throwing post (which wasn't serious, like I said), because if you look at it, I don't really suspect anyone very much at the moment, I think I was far more talking about people's possible innocence in my last post. I'm getting slightly worried, or then I'm just baffled...

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Originally Posted by Thinlómien

What? You suspect me for seeing everything in suspicious light and use as an example a quote where I say two players seem rather innocentish? And I really have no idea where did that point of yours originate from in the first place, unless it was from the accusation-throwing post (which wasn't serious, like I said), because if you look at it, I don't really suspect anyone very much at the moment, I think I was far more talking about people's possible innocence in my last post. I'm getting slightly worried, or then I'm just baffled...

Blast. I am getting blind. Okay, I take it back. I read it as "Gaunt and Gollum... AS NEWBIE WOLVES", because you said something similar in the first post of yours (about newbie wolves being likely around here), so I thought you are continuing around the same lines. Okay, okay, horrible actually. Anyway, to the second thing you said, yes, I was referring to your very first post... because you did not seem to be so sure whether it was all a joke or not, resp. you seemed more unsure about it being joke than I have expected (now talking about the parts you did not specifically mention as having a grain of serious suspicion or whatever in it).

EDIT: x-ed with Nog.

[Thinlómien]

Originally Posted by Legate of Amon Lanc

Anyway, to the second thing you said, yes, I was referring to your very first post... because you did not seem to be so sure whether it was all a joke or not, resp. you seemed more unsure about it being joke than I have expected (now talking about the parts you did not specifically mention as having a grain of serious suspicion or whatever in it).

Okay, people, one more clarification: I was not seriously suspecting anyone in my accusation-throwing post. I was just trying to provoke reactions/discussion and also see if anyone could be seen as suspicious because no one seemed so to me. Thus, the points are valid notions in principle, but they hardly have any value, and I do not suspect anyone based on them or "stand behind" those points, except the two I singled out later. (If it's this complicated, I'll never again try suspicion-throwing as a discussion-creator... *deep sigh* Well, if we're lucky, maybe we can even learn something from all this mess. Maybe.)