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Still, it is interesting that the theme of a sort of
"shape shifting" exists in all three ages, Sauron in the Second Age and Beorn in The Third, plus, of course, Luthien, Beren, and Sauron in The First. And exactly what is to be made of the wargs attacking The Fellowship between Caradhras and Moria and their bodies vanishing?
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well that is NOT was I was hoping to hear- tho I should have assumed that it was so- I was thinking more of a shape shifting spiritual protector type tho- I have read the similain but I was younger and prolly didn't understand the vast majority of it- it does pose the question that was just asked... I know not the answer- perhaps someone wiser than myself can answer it.....
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Or maybe the crebain came and ate them.
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And although that was what werewolves were in some mythologies, I wouldn't go so far as to call Beren a werewolf because of his little wolf experience, since that was clearly not the concept of werewolves in Middle-earth. ![]()
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While Tolkien almost seems at times to delight in
ambiguity (usually with excellent effect) the case of being a werewolf/wearing a skin of one, etc. is open to interpretations: Quote:
of wearing a Halloween costume and perhaps more "becoming" a werewolf. And for what it's worth, here's a Wikipedia article on the subject. Quote:
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But what is a werewolf? A person who has actually turned into a wolf via some strange metamorphosis, or just a person wearing a wolf skin? Does being a werewolf require a mischievous and bloodthirsty mind, or does just being a wolf in appearance suffice? I am sure there are exceptions to the rule, but in most mythologies lycanthropes can't control themselves and become violent on turning into wolves.
When it comes to Middle-earth, creatures called werewolves are simply wolves with wit, maybe even the ability to speak; wolves inhabited by spirits. Therefore I am against the idea of Beren becoming a werewolf. He was still a human, he was still Beren - he just looked like a wolf. When he spoke, he didn't sound like a wolf. He didn't crave for raw meat and bloodshed.
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