Tol-in-Gaurhoth LII: Star Crossed II: Together for Eternity

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

I'm a bit surprised by how much people have been able to chat. Far as I can see, we know nothing, and it's deliberate. We're not supposed to know anything; we're supposed to grope blindly in the dark, providing delicious entertainment for the mod in the process. Well, I'm not falling for that yet. I presume only that there are villains. It's probable that some will stay quiet and some will be very involved in discussion, trying to determine, in public to greater the acclaim, the nature of the game.

Whether you're doing that by reference to the last game, I'm not sure. I would say that it's dangerous to let the past game affect your appraisal overly. I'd say that there's been far too much talk over little not to have some active villains, acting the wise.

Well, I'm all for a bit more substance. So:

++Rikae

Have at it.


Edit: crossed with Mac, who has seemingly got the first vote in. Curse him, stealing my thunder...

[Kitanna]

I have to hurry and vote. I stand by my suspicions of Rikae. I don't like her "joke" accusation toward Mac, seeing as she admitted it wasn't necessarily an entire joke. I feel bad about her.

++Rikae

I find the talk around Agan and Agan herself. But I'm not sure I find anything overly suspicious about here. I probably won't be back, though I'll try, but I've voted now just in case.

Edit: I see Eomer beat me to the Rikae vote...jerk :P

[Eönwë]

Originally Posted by Eomer of the Rohirrim

Edit: crossed with Mac, who has seemingly got the first vote in. Curse him, stealing my thunder...

No! yet again you beat me to it! Stealing my thunder.

Now I will stay longer and see if anything makes me change my mind.

edit: x-ed with Kitanna- another person stealing my Rikae vote. Grrr!

[Lalaith]

This large number of silent ones is especially worrying since we are lacking modkill.

I don't like silent players either, but in this game they are less worrying, probably, than in normal games because in this game all baddies are linked with another baddie. So even if one flies under radar his/her lover could still cop it.
Unless of course we have a pair of silent lovers.

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Originally Posted by Lalaith

I don't like silent players either, but in this game they are less worrying, probably, than in normal games because in this game all baddies are linked with another baddie. So even if one flies under radar his/her lover could still cop it.
Unless of course we have a pair of silent lovers.

I would not worry about that. Except for the last alternative (in which case however, I'd call them cowards not worthy of winning), given that there'll be probably lots of nightly kills, even the silent players may meet their ends. And still, this village is relatively big, so not that much need to worry about silent players for right now (although of course we may slowly extend the pressure on them, but that will, I think, come naturally as the numbers of players will be lowering).

I am keeping my eye on the silent Nogrod, though. Horrible! Such an irresponsibility! How comes he does not find any time to post? A few almost one-liners? Now come on! That's too much! Such people should not even play!

I am not quite comfortable with the idea of everybody voting Rikae suddenly, as I am more inclined to think that Mac is the evil one here (if not both, of course). I just hope there will be more people to vote for Mac as well, as he is No.1 for me toDay.

EDIT: x-ed since Lalaith

[Diamond18]

I can't tell if Mac's post contains an actual vote or not. Mac, if it is a vote, please clarify. If it isn't, I shall slap you for your formatting.

[Macalaure]

Originally Posted by Diamond18

I can't tell if Mac's post contains an actual vote or not. Mac, if it is a vote, please clarify. If it isn't, I shall slap you for your formatting.

Ai! Sorry. No, that was no vote... it's not on the same line and the "++" is not bolded.

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Originally Posted by Macalaure

Ai! Sorry. No, that was no vote... it's not on the same line and the "++" is not bolded.

Hmm, I'd suggest you use asterisks or something rather next time. That confused me, too (and seemingly lots of others). The symbol of two pluses is already taken... (hey, then what about using three or such?)

[Nogrod]

Originally Posted by Legate

I am keeping my eye on the silent Nogrod, though. Horrible! Such an irresponsibility!

You guys keep posting such a lot that it takes time to catch you up... But I'm there now... at this minute. Just a moment...

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Originally Posted by Macalaure

I really don't like this sudden rush of Rikae-votes. Aganzir's pondering to add more fuel to the waggon does not sit right with me.

Indeed. Let's lynch you instead.

Originally Posted by Nogrod

You guys keep posting such a lot that it takes time to catch you up... But I'm there now... at this minute. Just a moment...

What do you think I was trying to do all the evening

[Macalaure]

Originally Posted by Kitanna

I don't like her "joke" accusation toward Mac, seeing as she admitted it wasn't necessarily an entire joke.

It is perfectly normal for her to mix seriousness with joking. Even though I was at the receiving end of this suspicion, I really didn't see it suspicious in turn at all.

I really don't like this sudden rush of Rikae-votes. Aganzir's pondering to add more fuel to the waggon does not sit right with me.

[Macalaure]

I'm not comfortable with the general focus of suspicions at the moment (almost exclusively me, Rikae, Aganzir, and Lommy). Too many people got by without anybody noticing. Please, have a closer look at things each of you. There's an incredible number of submarines right now.

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Originally Posted by Macalaure

I'm not comfortable with the general focus of suspicions at the moment (almost exclusively me, Rikae, Aganzir, and Lommy). Too many people got by without anybody noticing. Please, have a closer look at things each of you. There's an incredible number of submarines right now.

Okay, point taken. I am going to re-evaluate everything, though still, of course people are voting for those for whom they have most grounds... or who are easy to lynch by starting/jumping on a bandwaggon (like we just saw...)

[Gollum the Great]

I don't quite understand why Rikae given those two votes. Perhaps I was not paying attention. I cannot think of anyone who would bear a great deal of watching at the present; we have so little evidence to build suspicions off of.

[Aganzir]

Originally Posted by Macalaure

I really don't like this sudden rush of Rikae-votes. Aganzir's pondering to add more fuel to the waggon does not sit right with me.

This comment of Mac's doesn't sit right with me and makes me more inclined to vote for him instead. It's wolfish.
However, you can see my points against Rikae (added to a general bad feeling) in some earlier post I won't bother to find for you myself now.

Originally Posted by Gollum the Great

I don't quite understand why Rikae given those two votes. Perhaps I was not paying attention. I cannot think of anyone who would bear a great deal of watching at the present; we have so little evidence to build suspicions off of.

I don't know about Eomer but at least in my opinion Kitanna had valid reasons.

As for submarines, have we all Europeans forgotten that only a bit more than a half of the first day has passed? They have well time to appear although most of us might not be around then.

edit: xed with Legate, Eönwë & Greenie

[Nogrod]

In the earlier game there were four independent pairs of lovers (werecats, werebirds etc...). In one game - possibly it was the Hoy Brasil - there were wolves as normal but they all had secret lovers behind the others' backs (so in the end all the wolves were playing for themselves even if they posed as friends to each other).

We have a host of possibilities then.

But one thing we should remember is that whatever the case this is a lovers game and in those two are always interconnected. So more than normal, the lovers will defend each other if it looks like it the other one is going to get lynched.

So far I have seen Kitanna defend Mac twice. Mac has been under pressure and Kitanna has really not stated any more elaborated reasons for her backing of him.

Other defendings have been more vague up till now, but I need to look at it again.

And I have some other suggestions as well but I'll post this first not to write a novel out of this first one.

[Aganzir]

Originally Posted by Legate of Amon Lanc

Great. Now I seem like doing nothing but quoting Agan and agreeing with her, but she simply says things which make sense now.

Don't worry - you can't help it that I'm so darn smart.

Originally Posted by Eönwë

She seems very - dare I say it?- phantom-ish (in her own little way) to me this game. I don't know whether that's good or bad thing.

Ooh Eönwë I love you! Let's get married!

I've got to vote in about two hours if I don't want to wake up hours earlier than I otherwise should (which I don't). I think I'd prefer voting Mac over Rikae but since Rikae already has votes, I'm maybe a bit more inclined to add there one more.

Anyway, now I need something to eat, and I should probably also do some school things. Maybe. But I'll stay online anyway so I'm not entirely gone.

edit: xed with Lal and The Honourable Corpse

[A Little Green]

Originally Posted by Lommy

Bah, give me any topic and I'll talk about it.

Let's see... How about electromagnetic wave equations?

Originally Posted by Lal

Unless of course we have a pair of silent lovers.

Now that is a scary thought. I don't like the number of silent ones, either - but I'll live in hope that they get the chance to contribute still toDay even though I didn't see it until tomorrow.

Which brought to my mind... I want to go to sleep pretty soon, which means I should vote pretty soon, which means I'm in trouble since I'm having my traditional Day 1 "Oh no I don't suspect anyone" crisis.

Then, some other random stuff that crossed my mind while I read..

1) Legate and Agan bring up good points about Groin; I didn't really pay attention to the matter before, but now that I reread the post it does seem weird. This is something I should think about a little more.

2) I don't know what to think of this sudden cross-post flood of Rikae votes. Granted, she has been a bit strange - but still, what, something like four Rikae-votes or semi-votes just suddenly appearing all at once? It's plain weird.

3)

Originally Posted by Agan

Actually I think Fea could be a lover or something - the way she stubbornly sets out to defend the pros of rule discussion is odd, and especially taken to such lengths, it doesn't sound entirely honest.

I agree that sticking to the rule discussion is a bit odd, but I wouldn't be so hasty as to call it suspicious. After all, in the early phases of the game, it's as good a topic as any, and if it gets people to talk then I don't see the harm in it. It's a way to get some discussion going similarly as joking and banter is, though it isn't as entertaining ( ). I don't really think much can be derived from Fea's excessive rule discussion thing.

Like I said I am not yet decided on who to vote. I think I'll read some bits again and come back (hopefully) with some ideas and a vote.


EDIT: x-ed OH MY GOSH with everyone since Agan's post number 103...