Tol-in-Gaurhoth LII: Star Crossed II: Together for Eternity

[Gollum the Great]

Originally Posted by Legate of Amon Lanc

Yes, and are you aware that until the last day when I was rightfully lynched, I was a wrongfully suspected innocent?

I remember that, rather funny.

I try to sound helpful - from Agan

I don't know about the others, but your posts haven't helped me.

[Aganzir]

Originally Posted by Gollum the Great

I don't know about the others, but your posts haven't helped me.

Then the problem is certainly with you, not me.
The point was that in my opinion there weren't enough differences in helpfulness between me and Legate's posts at that point to justify Groin's entirely different treatment of us. It had me wondering if he was trying to get a strong ally in Legate.

And what actually were your reasons to call me jumpy, my dear Madam/Sir?

[Aganzir]

Originally Posted by Kitanna

I get what you're saying, but given how I feel about Rikae's "accusation", I don't know how suspicious Mac really is. Maybe Mac was jumpy, but innocents can get jumpy and defensive too.

Well technically it's possible they're both baddies, if there are just lover pairs who don't know of one another.

Originally Posted by Thinlómien

Groin - innocent enough. He's calling me silly, though.
Eönwë - another young gentleman who calls me silly. More innocent than guilty, but that means absolutely nothing at this phase.

Someone should be reeeally careful now... After all, we know how easily Lommy is seduced by saying silly!

edit: xed with Lommy

[Kitanna]

Originally Posted by Aganzir

Well technically it's possible they're both baddies, if there are just lover pairs who don't know of one another.

Possible, of course, but I feel better about Mac than I do about Rikae, but don't think I'd discounted the fact they could both be up to no good.

[Gollum the Great]

Originally Posted by Aganzir

And what actually were your reasons to call me jumpy, my dear Madam/Sir?

You post often, make long posts, were swift to accuse and are quick to defend yourself. You're also out for lots blood and seem very excited about the game (not that blame you). That is my idea of jumpy.

PS, I'm male.

[Aganzir]

Originally Posted by Gollum the Great

You post often, make long posts, were swift to accuse and are quick to defend yourself. You're also out for lots blood and seem very excited about the game (not that blame you). That is my idea of jumpy.

My idea of jumpy means quickly defending oneself against the smallest of suspicions and therefore I don't consider myself more jumpy than I usually am. Posting much and being accusatory, on the other hand, aren't a part of that idea.

And yeah I like blood. Downer blood is especially tasty.

edit: xed with Legate & Lommy

[Thinlómien]

Now I know what's wrong with me. I've been wolf in the past two games, and I last played as innocent in early June. So small wonder if I have problems accustoming myself to really hunting wolves. I mean, I do pay attention to suspicious things people say, but I don't go as far as to start really suspecting them. I'm not thinking about who's a wolf, I'm just commenting everything that people say... Not good. Maybe I should let Greenie back here now and go re-wire my brain meanwhile...

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Originally Posted by Aganzir

I think Mac and Rikae are weird.

I am not feeling anything especially strange about Rikae, and I have not been paying much attention to their exchanges (rather because I am really not the one for deep analysis of these exchanges), but Mac at least seemed weird to me from the beginning, and I have him marked as one to eventually vote for.

Lommy is really too tra-la-la-ley, happy and nice.

Yes, actually, this is true, too. Too unconflicting, and as I recall her from the last game, there is perhaps something similar in there. And she seems to be more... reserved to talk about various topics, keeping just out of the main spotlight, while still contributing enough to be noticed.

Originally Posted by Gollum the Great

I remember that, rather funny.

Depends for whom...

EDIT: x-ed since the Gollum I quoted

[Thinlómien]

Originally Posted by Legate of Amon Lanc

Yes, actually, this is true, too. Too unconflicting, and as I recall her from the last game, there is perhaps something similar in there. And she seems to be more... reserved to talk about various topics, keeping just out of the main spotlight, while still contributing enough to be noticed.

Bah, give me any topic and I'll talk about it.

[Macalaure]

++*
Lommy

+
Legate ~ something's wrong there
Sally
Eonwe ~ another one who's being too nice
Brinniel ~ has talked exclusively about the rules so far
Groin ~ gives me a bad feeling

o
Kitanna ~ always have a hard time reading her
Gollum ~ no idea
Lily ~ one post, and that was a list - easy way to appear involved
Lalaith ~ no idea

-
Aganzir ~ too argumentative to be a wolf, methinks
Nogrod ~ no alarms yet, which is alarming
Rikae ~ accuses and defends me, which is what innocent Rikaes tend to do, but evil Rikaes might as well

--
Fea ~ strikes me very innocent

?
Shasta, Gwath, McCaber, Eomer ~ these fellows really better show up. This large number of silent ones is especially worrying since we are lacking modkill.


It's nice that we have so many baddies in this village (well, presumably): I can call six people suspicious without having to worry about who of them I'm necessarily wrong about.

(*edit: no, this was no vote - sorry about the stupid formatting)

[Eönwë]

Originally Posted by Macalaure

Aganzir ~ too argumentative to be a wolf, methinks

Or just a bold wolf?
She seems very - dare I say it?- phantom-ish (in her own little way) to me this game. I don't know whether that's good or bad thing.

Originally Posted by Macalaure

Rikae ~ accuses and defends me, which is what innocent Rikaes tend to do, but evil Rikaes might as well

And now your defending her too, but not obviously so. Hmmm... The plot thickens

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Originally Posted by Aganzir

The point was that in my opinion there weren't enough differences in helpfulness between me and Legate's posts at that point to justify Groin's entirely different treatment of us. It had me wondering if he was trying to get a strong ally in Legate.

That's actually a good point, too, and I noticed it too. (Great. Now I seem like doing nothing but quoting Agan and agreeing with her, but she simply says things which make sense now. This is also why I am inclined to trust her: she probably would not have made such an effort had she not had the best intentions of the village in her mind. Well, of course she could have just her own best intentions, which include helping to get rid of other lover pairs... or she is simply bored and has lots of time...) Anyway, trying to "jump on the train" of me would fit well with a Guilty Groin, and I am inclined to think about it as of a likely possibility. Still though, for example Mac I suspect more strongly than him (or, have more grounds for it).

Originally Posted by Thinlómien

Bah, give me any topic and I'll talk about it.

Really? Okay, you said it yourself, sweetheart...

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

I'm a bit surprised by how much people have been able to chat. Far as I can see, we know nothing, and it's deliberate. We're not supposed to know anything; we're supposed to grope blindly in the dark, providing delicious entertainment for the mod in the process. Well, I'm not falling for that yet. I presume only that there are villains. It's probable that some will stay quiet and some will be very involved in discussion, trying to determine, in public to greater the acclaim, the nature of the game.

Whether you're doing that by reference to the last game, I'm not sure. I would say that it's dangerous to let the past game affect your appraisal overly. I'd say that there's been far too much talk over little not to have some active villains, acting the wise.

Well, I'm all for a bit more substance. So:

++Rikae

Have at it.


Edit: crossed with Mac, who has seemingly got the first vote in. Curse him, stealing my thunder...

[Kitanna]

I have to hurry and vote. I stand by my suspicions of Rikae. I don't like her "joke" accusation toward Mac, seeing as she admitted it wasn't necessarily an entire joke. I feel bad about her.

++Rikae

I find the talk around Agan and Agan herself. But I'm not sure I find anything overly suspicious about here. I probably won't be back, though I'll try, but I've voted now just in case.

Edit: I see Eomer beat me to the Rikae vote...jerk :P

[Eönwë]

Originally Posted by Eomer of the Rohirrim

Edit: crossed with Mac, who has seemingly got the first vote in. Curse him, stealing my thunder...

No! yet again you beat me to it! Stealing my thunder.

Now I will stay longer and see if anything makes me change my mind.

edit: x-ed with Kitanna- another person stealing my Rikae vote. Grrr!

[Lalaith]

This large number of silent ones is especially worrying since we are lacking modkill.

I don't like silent players either, but in this game they are less worrying, probably, than in normal games because in this game all baddies are linked with another baddie. So even if one flies under radar his/her lover could still cop it.
Unless of course we have a pair of silent lovers.

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Originally Posted by Lalaith

I don't like silent players either, but in this game they are less worrying, probably, than in normal games because in this game all baddies are linked with another baddie. So even if one flies under radar his/her lover could still cop it.
Unless of course we have a pair of silent lovers.

I would not worry about that. Except for the last alternative (in which case however, I'd call them cowards not worthy of winning), given that there'll be probably lots of nightly kills, even the silent players may meet their ends. And still, this village is relatively big, so not that much need to worry about silent players for right now (although of course we may slowly extend the pressure on them, but that will, I think, come naturally as the numbers of players will be lowering).

I am keeping my eye on the silent Nogrod, though. Horrible! Such an irresponsibility! How comes he does not find any time to post? A few almost one-liners? Now come on! That's too much! Such people should not even play!

I am not quite comfortable with the idea of everybody voting Rikae suddenly, as I am more inclined to think that Mac is the evil one here (if not both, of course). I just hope there will be more people to vote for Mac as well, as he is No.1 for me toDay.

EDIT: x-ed since Lalaith

[Diamond18]

I can't tell if Mac's post contains an actual vote or not. Mac, if it is a vote, please clarify. If it isn't, I shall slap you for your formatting.

[Macalaure]

Originally Posted by Diamond18

I can't tell if Mac's post contains an actual vote or not. Mac, if it is a vote, please clarify. If it isn't, I shall slap you for your formatting.

Ai! Sorry. No, that was no vote... it's not on the same line and the "++" is not bolded.

[Aganzir]

Originally Posted by Legate of Amon Lanc

Great. Now I seem like doing nothing but quoting Agan and agreeing with her, but she simply says things which make sense now.

Don't worry - you can't help it that I'm so darn smart.

Originally Posted by Eönwë

She seems very - dare I say it?- phantom-ish (in her own little way) to me this game. I don't know whether that's good or bad thing.

Ooh Eönwë I love you! Let's get married!

I've got to vote in about two hours if I don't want to wake up hours earlier than I otherwise should (which I don't). I think I'd prefer voting Mac over Rikae but since Rikae already has votes, I'm maybe a bit more inclined to add there one more.

Anyway, now I need something to eat, and I should probably also do some school things. Maybe. But I'll stay online anyway so I'm not entirely gone.

edit: xed with Lal and The Honourable Corpse

[A Little Green]

Originally Posted by Lommy

Bah, give me any topic and I'll talk about it.

Let's see... How about electromagnetic wave equations?

Originally Posted by Lal

Unless of course we have a pair of silent lovers.

Now that is a scary thought. I don't like the number of silent ones, either - but I'll live in hope that they get the chance to contribute still toDay even though I didn't see it until tomorrow.

Which brought to my mind... I want to go to sleep pretty soon, which means I should vote pretty soon, which means I'm in trouble since I'm having my traditional Day 1 "Oh no I don't suspect anyone" crisis.

Then, some other random stuff that crossed my mind while I read..

1) Legate and Agan bring up good points about Groin; I didn't really pay attention to the matter before, but now that I reread the post it does seem weird. This is something I should think about a little more.

2) I don't know what to think of this sudden cross-post flood of Rikae votes. Granted, she has been a bit strange - but still, what, something like four Rikae-votes or semi-votes just suddenly appearing all at once? It's plain weird.

3)

Originally Posted by Agan

Actually I think Fea could be a lover or something - the way she stubbornly sets out to defend the pros of rule discussion is odd, and especially taken to such lengths, it doesn't sound entirely honest.

I agree that sticking to the rule discussion is a bit odd, but I wouldn't be so hasty as to call it suspicious. After all, in the early phases of the game, it's as good a topic as any, and if it gets people to talk then I don't see the harm in it. It's a way to get some discussion going similarly as joking and banter is, though it isn't as entertaining ( ). I don't really think much can be derived from Fea's excessive rule discussion thing.

Like I said I am not yet decided on who to vote. I think I'll read some bits again and come back (hopefully) with some ideas and a vote.


EDIT: x-ed OH MY GOSH with everyone since Agan's post number 103...