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Rikae · 10-31-2008, 12:38 PM

Gwath, Nogrod's right - there isn't much point in looking at him - except in the strange event he's still alive toMorrow (after all, who knows what's going on here...). I just thought I'd mention something that jumped out at me.

Shasta... yeah, Gwath is wacky. I found his attack on me wacky to begin with, and his semi-retraction of it toDay more so. I don't see it as particularly wolfish, though... straightforwardly speaking, do you?

Oh, and since I seem to be in the position to be the first to mention it: happy Halloween, everybody. Even those of you in countries that lack it - I'm going to force this aspect of American culture down your throats! Mwahahahahahaha!

A Little Green · 10-31-2008, 12:48 PM

So sorry, dearies, RL is keeping me more busy than I thought. I'll try to get time to read and post and vote, but am not at all sure I'll be able to. If no, then good Night to everyone - if yes, then we'll see later on toDay...

Feanor of the Peredhil · 10-31-2008, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Rikae

Even those of you in countries that lack it - I'm going to force this aspect of American culture down your throats! Mwahahahahahaha!

Agreed. I'll need to vote early tonight since I'm being forced to attend a party for most of the night...

I just have no idea who to vote for.

Groin - assumed innocent
Aganzir - dunno. probably innocent
Gollum - absolutely no idea. reindeer. worrisome for that reason.
Nogrod - probably innocent
Brinniel - no clue
Sally - forgot she was playing
Shasta - no clue
Gwath - presumed innocent
Rikae - not sure, leaning toward not-so-innocent
Mac - rational, but i fear him on principle. could go either way.
McCaber - no clue
Fea - I know my exact role. I'm pretty cool, I assure you.
Greenie - no idea
Eomer - where are you, my dear? I'm going to kill you for being quiet pretty soon.

See, this isn't good. I think the entire village is either innocent or invisible.

Gollum the Great · 10-31-2008, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Feanor of the Peredhil

Fea - I know my exact role. I'm pretty cool, I assure you.

Are you hinting at something or what? I'll take it your joking, though.

Like Fea, I really can't make up my mind. Either the players are not showing themselves, or I can't accuse them of anything for want of evidence. I keep one or two under observation, but that's as far as my suspicions go.

Oh yeah. Agan, what was your case against me? I didn't have time yesterday or whenever it was to search for it, and I don't now. If you could possibly lay it out simply, aside from your other 5,000 posts, it would be a great aid for me to go into it.

A Little Green · 10-31-2008, 02:02 PM

Okay - I'm going to sleep in an instant and though I've read the Day through I have no time to really think about it... Again, I'm really really sorry for this. I promise to show my face more toMorrow if I'm still alive. Good night and Night and happy Halloween.

Brinniel · 10-31-2008, 02:21 PM

Sorry...I've been reading through this thread throughout the Day, but I haven't had time to post until now. Though I notice posting's been rather slow...I blame it on Halloween. Lucky for you guys, I have no social life and will remain around for the rest of the Day for the most part. Yes I'm pathetic, but I suppose playing WW is a perfect way to spend Halloween.

Will be back to post something of actual substance in a little while.

Nogrod · 10-31-2008, 02:29 PM

I'll speak open my suspicions right now (no, I have not been reading through the whole thread or made a careful analysis on it). Let's see if they change or if I get any ideas to go and look for things from back there. It would help if some others posted as well...

I'll check the votes after this though to remind me of the key events and give me some perspective to these initial thoughts - even if the votes will not be so telling at this time as there is no one team and no baddies have been lynched yet...

Aganzir (53 posts)
She sure has been around and only for that we probably should leave her be for sooner or later no one will talk here. That said, I'm a bit inclined to think she is jumpy indeed like someone suggested earlier. I mean she really is careful to answer every single point made against her. A bit too interested that is? And there has been no heavy suspicions over her and she still is alive...

Shasta (31)
Interesting he has that many posts as I have no clear view of what he actually thinks about the situation.

Brinniel (27)
She feels calm and involved in a reasonable way. Maybe that's the reason I should suspect her?

Mac (24)
His rally against me yesterDay was just strange and the way he sticked to it was downright ridiculous. I'm aware of the possibility that there might be personal feelings involved as I know I'm innocent and he jumped on me on nothing. His insistence to speak it out aloud that he still suspects me toDay haven't lessened my suspicions as he is an experienced enough a player to see what the Nightly actions meant. Also the whole interaction between him and Rikae worries me.

Fea (22)
As I said on Day1 already, her helpfulness and business-likeness on Day1 looked worrying. After that she has gone back to her normal stuff - more or less. At the same time something bugs me and something tells me I should trust her.

Rikae (21)
I've been a bit worried about her all the game but she was one I decided not to discuss about for not gaining too many "bad feeling" votes on myself. I'm not so worried about her style like some seem to be, but more on her initial "pseudo-attacks" on Mac which have turned into some confidence. Were they a pair of lovers gamewise that would be perfect tactics this far - unless someone pointed it out for the other team to exploit.

Gwath (15)
I must agree with those who mentioned toDay that his speech for my innocence looks weird. I need no defence toDay as I will die the next Night. So a trial for the feel-good factor? I still can't get rid of my suspicion of his firstDay vote that was grounded with "she disagrees me about him". The only thing that makes me uneasy with my suspicion of him is that I have both suspected and voted for the innocent Gwath just too many times.

Sally (13)
One of my top suspicions still and I have made points about her already a few times. Her point of view just shouts a wolf. (Someone defended her yesterDay for that, saying people have said that a few games already... who was it? Have to check back for that if no one remembers it.)

Gollum (10)
His input is so awkward and slight that we might do well to just check him. In a lovers' game it might even pay off?

Greenie (10)
Hides under my reindeer as no one can. I have no idea about her. I really need to look at her.

Eomer (8)
As I said before, his Day1 appearance felt a bit too calculated and he hasn't given me too many reasons to think otherwise. Was it not for the fact that he only has eight posts I'd say let's lynch him immediately. But the passivity of him kind of makes me hesitate about it.

McCaber (7)
Talking about the quiet ones... he's one we should also check out. There's no saying about him. And just because of that he's dangerous. But this is not the first time he acts this way.

Groin (6)
As I said before, his explanation of his actions stated toDay looked sincere and I would not lynch him.

What?

No vote Greenie?

Well adds to my "if she's a baddie she does not deserve to win with that performance" eg. I tend to think her more innocent than not. Although looking at the numbers one would think innocents had more need to fight back...

I mean the question is this: who gives up in a way like that? Personal character and the general involvement in these games is a major factor but I won't go into them too much as I don't want to engage in that meta-game discussion we had yesterDay anymore. But in a situation like this, would it be an ordo who would decide just not to vote or one of a pair of lovers? That indeed is a question.

Aganzir · 10-31-2008, 03:25 PM

Mac, what are your reasons to think I'm innocent?

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Originally Posted by Gollum

Oh yeah. Agan, what was your case against me? I didn't have time yesterday or whenever it was to search for it, and I don't now. If you could possibly lay it out simply, aside from your other 5,000 posts, it would be a great aid for me to go into it.

I think you should bother to find the posts I have accused you in yourself. I don't remember where they are so it's almost as big a job for me as it is for you. Besides how are you going to know who to suspect if you don't read their posts? Based on initial feelings on day 1?

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Originally Posted by Nog

I mean she really is careful to answer every single point made against her.

Because from my point of view points made against me are generally bad.

You're going to get a bit fewer posts from me today since I'm pretty tired and therefore slower than I'd usually be.

edit: xed with Brinn, Eomer & Gollum

Gollum the Great · 10-31-2008, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Aganzir

I think you should bother to find the posts I have accused you in yourself. I don't remember where they are so it's almost as big a job for me as it is for you. Besides how are you going to know who to suspect if you don't read their posts? Based on initial feelings on day 1?

I haven't got the time to search through 10 long pages for 1 case against me.

Gwathagor · 10-31-2008, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Gollum the Great

I haven't got the time to search through 10 long pages for 1 case against me.

If you don't answer people's objections, what reason will they have not to vote you? It would seem logical to defend yourself.

10-31-2008, 12:48 PM	#2
A Little Green Leaf-clad Lady Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 1,571	So sorry, dearies, RL is keeping me more busy than I thought. I'll try to get time to read and post and vote, but am not at all sure I'll be able to. If no, then good Night to everyone - if yes, then we'll see later on toDay... __________________ "But some stories, small, simple ones about setting out on adventures or people doing wonders, tales of miracles and monsters, have outlasted all the people who told them, and some of them have outlasted the lands in which they were created."

10-31-2008, 02:02 PM	#5
A Little Green Leaf-clad Lady Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 1,571	Okay - I'm going to sleep in an instant and though I've read the Day through I have no time to really think about it... Again, I'm really really sorry for this. I promise to show my face more toMorrow if I'm still alive. Good night and Night and happy Halloween. __________________ "But some stories, small, simple ones about setting out on adventures or people doing wonders, tales of miracles and monsters, have outlasted all the people who told them, and some of them have outlasted the lands in which they were created."

10-31-2008, 02:21 PM	#6
Brinniel Reflection of Darkness Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Polishing the stars. Well, somebody has to do it; they're looking a little bit dull. Posts: 2,983	Sorry...I've been reading through this thread throughout the Day, but I haven't had time to post until now. Though I notice posting's been rather slow...I blame it on Halloween. Lucky for you guys, I have no social life and will remain around for the rest of the Day for the most part. Yes I'm pathetic, but I suppose playing WW is a perfect way to spend Halloween. Will be back to post something of actual substance in a little while. __________________ Nolite te bastardes carborundorum

10-31-2008, 02:29 PM	#7
Nogrod Flame of the Ainulindalë Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Wearing rat's coat, crowskin, crossed staves in a field behaving as the wind behaves Posts: 9,308	I'll speak open my suspicions right now (no, I have not been reading through the whole thread or made a careful analysis on it). Let's see if they change or if I get any ideas to go and look for things from back there. It would help if some others posted as well... I'll check the votes after this though to remind me of the key events and give me some perspective to these initial thoughts - even if the votes will not be so telling at this time as there is no one team and no baddies have been lynched yet... Aganzir (53 posts) She sure has been around and only for that we probably should leave her be for sooner or later no one will talk here. That said, I'm a bit inclined to think she is jumpy indeed like someone suggested earlier. I mean she really is careful to answer every single point made against her. A bit too interested that is? And there has been no heavy suspicions over her and she still is alive... Shasta (31) Interesting he has that many posts as I have no clear view of what he actually thinks about the situation. Brinniel (27) She feels calm and involved in a reasonable way. Maybe that's the reason I should suspect her? Mac (24) His rally against me yesterDay was just strange and the way he sticked to it was downright ridiculous. I'm aware of the possibility that there might be personal feelings involved as I know I'm innocent and he jumped on me on nothing. His insistence to speak it out aloud that he still suspects me toDay haven't lessened my suspicions as he is an experienced enough a player to see what the Nightly actions meant. Also the whole interaction between him and Rikae worries me. Fea (22) As I said on Day1 already, her helpfulness and business-likeness on Day1 looked worrying. After that she has gone back to her normal stuff - more or less. At the same time something bugs me and something tells me I should trust her. Rikae (21) I've been a bit worried about her all the game but she was one I decided not to discuss about for not gaining too many "bad feeling" votes on myself. I'm not so worried about her style like some seem to be, but more on her initial "pseudo-attacks" on Mac which have turned into some confidence. Were they a pair of lovers gamewise that would be perfect tactics this far - unless someone pointed it out for the other team to exploit. Gwath (15) I must agree with those who mentioned toDay that his speech for my innocence looks weird. I need no defence toDay as I will die the next Night. So a trial for the feel-good factor? I still can't get rid of my suspicion of his firstDay vote that was grounded with "she disagrees me about him". The only thing that makes me uneasy with my suspicion of him is that I have both suspected and voted for the innocent Gwath just too many times. Sally (13) One of my top suspicions still and I have made points about her already a few times. Her point of view just shouts a wolf. (Someone defended her yesterDay for that, saying people have said that a few games already... who was it? Have to check back for that if no one remembers it.) Gollum (10) His input is so awkward and slight that we might do well to just check him. In a lovers' game it might even pay off? Greenie (10) Hides under my reindeer as no one can. I have no idea about her. I really need to look at her. Eomer (8) As I said before, his Day1 appearance felt a bit too calculated and he hasn't given me too many reasons to think otherwise. Was it not for the fact that he only has eight posts I'd say let's lynch him immediately. But the passivity of him kind of makes me hesitate about it. McCaber (7) Talking about the quiet ones... he's one we should also check out. There's no saying about him. And just because of that he's dangerous. But this is not the first time he acts this way. Groin (6) As I said before, his explanation of his actions stated toDay looked sincere and I would not lynch him. What? No vote Greenie? Well adds to my "if she's a baddie she does not deserve to win with that performance" eg. I tend to think her more innocent than not. Although looking at the numbers one would think innocents had more need to fight back... I mean the question is this: who gives up in a way like that? Personal character and the general involvement in these games is a major factor but I won't go into them too much as I don't want to engage in that meta-game discussion we had yesterDay anymore. But in a situation like this, would it be an ordo who would decide just not to vote or one of a pair of lovers? That indeed is a question. __________________ Upon the hearth the fire is red Beneath the roof there is a bed; But not yet weary are our feet...

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10-31-2008, 12:38 PM	#1
Rikae Mellifluous Maia Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: A glade open to the stars, deep in Nan Elmoth Posts: 3,489	Gwath, Nogrod's right - there isn't much point in looking at him - except in the strange event he's still alive toMorrow (after all, who knows what's going on here...). I just thought I'd mention something that jumped out at me. Shasta... yeah, Gwath is wacky. I found his attack on me wacky to begin with, and his semi-retraction of it toDay more so. I don't see it as particularly wolfish, though... straightforwardly speaking, do you? Oh, and since I seem to be in the position to be the first to mention it: happy Halloween, everybody. Even those of you in countries that lack it - I'm going to force this aspect of American culture down your throats! Mwahahahahahaha!