Tol-in-Gaurhoth LII: Star Crossed II: Together for Eternity

[Gollum the Great]

Originally Posted by Aganzir

I think you should bother to find the posts I have accused you in yourself. I don't remember where they are so it's almost as big a job for me as it is for you. Besides how are you going to know who to suspect if you don't read their posts? Based on initial feelings on day 1?

I haven't got the time to search through 10 long pages for 1 case against me.

[Gwathagor]

Originally Posted by Gollum the Great

I haven't got the time to search through 10 long pages for 1 case against me.

If you don't answer people's objections, what reason will they have not to vote you? It would seem logical to defend yourself.

[Gollum the Great]

Originally Posted by Gwathagor

If you don't answer people's objections, what reason will they have not to vote you? It would seem logical to defend yourself.

Most certainly it would. But one objection is not enough for me to spend an hour or something reading, thinking, and writing. As a matter of fact, I should probably get off WW now and work.

[Gwathagor]

But you've posted so little that that ONE objection makes up about a third of the extant scholarly opinion regarding you.

[Gollum the Great]

Originally Posted by Gwathagor

But you've posted so little that that ONE objection makes up about a third of the extant scholarly opinion regarding you.

Look, I'll do it, but not now.

[Feanor of the Peredhil]

Speaking of parties, I decided to ditch the one tonight in favor of a few drinks and a scary movie with one of my girls. Creepy dead children, here I come.

Anyway, that essentially means I'll be around on and off until probably midnight or so.

[Rikae]

Originally Posted by Gollum the Great

Most certainly it would. But one objection is not enough for me to spend an hour or something reading, thinking, and writing. As a matter of fact, I should probably get off WW now and work.

Let me help you.

++Gollum

We have too many slackers in this game, and I don't agree with Nogrod that just because it wouldn't make an honorable win, they aren't evil - especially in that one's case.

EDIT: Somehow X'd with Gollum, Nog & Agan.

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

Oh dear. I see a dangerous bandwagon forming. Not that there are no points against Gollum but don't let today's voting be wasted. Pick your own vote; don't let others do it for you.

I think I'm one day away from making a list of all the villagers and typing my thoughts on each one. Right now... nah. I'd just be saying a lot of the same things, and that's boring. Let's just say that should anything happen to me in the night, my theory now of trying lynching Mac or Greenie is the most appealing to me. Otherwise, no real clue. Large villages are hard to get into, but I think on Day 4 things will get really interesting.

So I'll vote in a couple of minutes.

[Nogrod]

Originally Posted by Rikae

Let me help you.

++Gollum

We have too many slackers in this game, and I don't agree with Nogrod that just because it wouldn't make an honorable win, they aren't evil - especially in that one's case.

I do agree with you about slackers and I'd like to see werewolf with only non-slackers on board as it would be much more interesting and fun that way when one doesn't have to just quess like in a lottery but one could actually try to figure things out about everyone with substantial posting. You know we agree on this matter.

But as it is my last Day here I must say it aloud: your vote is soo easy. Playing on a principle and getting out of the trouble early enough?

If my future were less clear I might have accepted that and even voted with you just to see a more "graspable" game on Days to come whatever the result... but now I'm inclined to point this out. Your voting record really bothers me Rikae. First you went with Agan but as you realised she hit you back you changed to Gollum and now you've done that two times straight.

Looks more like a baddie-Rikae than an ordo version of you...

EDit: X'd with Eomer and Fea

[Rikae]

Originally Posted by Nogrod

First you went with Agan but as you realised she hit you back you changed to Gollum and now you've done that two times straight.

Well, I'm insulted that you think I left Agan alone out of fear. I have my reasons for no longer thinking she's guilty.

Frankly, Gollum is irritating me.

[Rikae]

Another thing:
how likely do you think it is that the seer hasn't already dreamt of me? I'm probably one of the top 3 or 4 seer dream picks by any way I figure it... which means, by going after me, a baddie has a chance of lynching a potential known innocent as well as a chance of causing the seer to defend me and reveal him/herself.
(Not to mention that if the seer dreamt of me and found me evil, there would be no reason not to reveal it and rid the village of half its baddies at once, assuming two pairs of lovers.)

EDIT: By "reveal him/herself" I mean tip the baddies off by being too obvious - not actually revealing.

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

I'm tired. Gan i' bed, ken?

I won't vote for Macalaure, purely because people would see it as a spite vote. Instead I will vote for the other person incriminated by my somewhat arbitrary Nogrod-theory.

++A LITTLE GREEN

I can't go with feelings because I'm sure Greenie is capable of displaying an air of nonchalance over any hidden evil. I can handle only so much suspicion based on feelings this early in the game. Nogrod was attacked, you have to ask why. Think about Kitanna too. Build theories around facts, don't just see the malice wherever you will.

Fully aware of the hypocrisy there relating to my vote on Day 2 ( ) but there's more to go on today.

[Aganzir]

Originally Posted by Eomer of the Rohirrim

Oh dear. I see a dangerous bandwagon forming. Not that there are no points against Gollum but don't let today's voting be wasted. Pick your own vote; don't let others do it for you.

Eomer has a good point here but somehow it makes me feel a bit uneasy. I understand if you don't like bandwagons, but in my opinion we should also be able to see the benefits in them.
If this was a traditional ww game with a pack of wolves, I'd say Eomer was trying to discourage voting Gollum. But if he was Gollum's lover, there would be no sense in defending him in such a subtle way.

Originally Posted by Rikae

I have my reasons for no longer thinking she's guilty.

What exactly are those reasons?

edit: xed with Rikae & Eomer

[Gwathagor]

Originally Posted by Rikae

Frankly, Gollum is irritating me.

Is that the only reason you voted him?

[Nogrod]

Originally Posted by Rikae

Well, I'm insulted that you think I left Agan alone out of fear.

I wasn't saying that in fact. But you saw it wiser to not stir too much suspicion, which is wise. If you're a wolf or a lover that is.

Fea - and all others - let's remember there are at least two teams with different people in them. And possibly even four (as that would make sense in regards to the original setting).


Now on the first Night the lovers operated they picked Legate and Lalaith.

On the second one they picked Kitanna and me.

It would talk on behalf of two sides if the one pair picked Lal and Kit and the other targeted Legate and me. So they have targeted two good players who tend to be a bit low key and two who tend to be the loudmouths. That's what the baddies have tried so far. Whether it's consistency or not we can't tell.

Also: if there are more pairs it would get more complicated but the basic lines of choice do suggest there are two teams indeed - and maybe the thing is that their interrelation is something we don't know? Like that they know each other but can't kill each other or something. Well, who knows...

Gah... I seem to have X'd with a host of posts. Coming back soon....