The Middle Earth Popularity Cup - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Nogrod · 12-13-2008, 02:05 PM

Boromir sure is one of those dearest to me in the LotR, but now I'm afraid he faces a bit too tough a competition.

Maedhros and Boromir are both alike in that they both craved for masterpieces of smithery and were ready to step out from their moral obligations to their friends, relatives, kin or allies to get that.

But there the similarities end for me.

Compare thir history of heroism in battle and governance; Boromir took one small town from the orcs... and didn't even manage to save two hobbits - and that's it. With Maedhros you have Dagor Aglareb, defending Himring (and with that denied the entrance to Beleriand) when all else was lost, forcing the union to regain lost lands and setting the siege of Angband which was lost mainly to the treachery of men etc

Or compare their tragicness. Boromir didn't get what he wanted and frustrated because of his people. Maedhros took part in the tragic events at Alqualondë, saw his father die firsthand after a glorious victory over Morgoth, was imprisoned in Thangorodrim for years, fought in Dagor Bragollach and Nirnaeth Arneodiad which were not lost because of him, took part in the second kinslaying because of the oath...

Compare their motives in their tragedy: Boromir got lured by a Ring and went mad with megalopsykhia concerning only his personal glory and petty humans of one town while Maedhros was bound by an oath to the Valar and he kept it to the bitter end even if he knew it would destroy him.

So it will be

++ Maedhros

for me.

Go first age, go!

Groin Redbeard · 12-13-2008, 02:30 PM

++Boromir

Elmo is right when he talks about Boromir not being as complicated and Maedhros is and I think that is the main reason that people can relate to Boromir more. Unlike Maedhros, Boromir wasn't out to get revenge for his father or cause misery all for the sake of jewels. Instead Boromir set out with noble intentions of seeing the quest through until his road parted with Aragorn to Minas Tirith, but was in time corrupted by the Ring. Let's face it, Boromir's death was heroic and more tragic than Maedhros'.

Ibrîniðilpathânezel · 12-13-2008, 03:10 PM

++Boromir

Because this chick does not dig guys with one hand.

skip spence · 12-15-2008, 12:36 PM

Gandalf has powered his way into the semi-finals, defeating Galadriel 7 votes to 6.

Quarter Final 4:
Sam in the second favourite to win the Popularity Cup now having impressed so far. In the first round he eased past Legolas and then managed to overcome the strong Aragron in the second round. His opponent today is almost his diametrical opposite and this is a clash between genres as much as it is a clash between characters.

Sam - Túrin

12-13-2008, 02:05 PM	#1
Nogrod Flame of the Ainulindalë Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Wearing rat's coat, crowskin, crossed staves in a field behaving as the wind behaves Posts: 9,308	Boromir sure is one of those dearest to me in the LotR, but now I'm afraid he faces a bit too tough a competition. Maedhros and Boromir are both alike in that they both craved for masterpieces of smithery and were ready to step out from their moral obligations to their friends, relatives, kin or allies to get that. But there the similarities end for me. Compare thir history of heroism in battle and governance; Boromir took one small town from the orcs... and didn't even manage to save two hobbits - and that's it. With Maedhros you have Dagor Aglareb, defending Himring (and with that denied the entrance to Beleriand) when all else was lost, forcing the union to regain lost lands and setting the siege of Angband which was lost mainly to the treachery of men etc Or compare their tragicness. Boromir didn't get what he wanted and frustrated because of his people. Maedhros took part in the tragic events at Alqualondë, saw his father die firsthand after a glorious victory over Morgoth, was imprisoned in Thangorodrim for years, fought in Dagor Bragollach and Nirnaeth Arneodiad which were not lost because of him, took part in the second kinslaying because of the oath... Compare their motives in their tragedy: Boromir got lured by a Ring and went mad with megalopsykhia concerning only his personal glory and petty humans of one town while Maedhros was bound by an oath to the Valar and he kept it to the bitter end even if he knew it would destroy him. So it will be ++ Maedhros for me. Go first age, go! __________________ Upon the hearth the fire is red Beneath the roof there is a bed; But not yet weary are our feet...

12-13-2008, 02:30 PM	#2
Groin Redbeard Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Facing the world's troubles with Christ's hope! Posts: 1,635	++Boromir Elmo is right when he talks about Boromir not being as complicated and Maedhros is and I think that is the main reason that people can relate to Boromir more. Unlike Maedhros, Boromir wasn't out to get revenge for his father or cause misery all for the sake of jewels. Instead Boromir set out with noble intentions of seeing the quest through until his road parted with Aragorn to Minas Tirith, but was in time corrupted by the Ring. Let's face it, Boromir's death was heroic and more tragic than Maedhros'. __________________ I heard the bells on Christmas Day. Their old, familiar carols play. And wild and sweet the words repeatof peace on earth, good-will to men! ~Henry Wadsworth Longfellow

12-13-2008, 03:10 PM	#3
Ibrîniðilpathânezel Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Back on the Helcaraxe Posts: 733	++Boromir Because this chick does not dig guys with one hand. __________________ Call me Ibrin (or Ibri) :) Originality is the one thing that unoriginal minds cannot feel the use of. — John Stewart Mill

12-15-2008, 12:36 PM	#4
skip spence shadow of a doubt Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Back on the streets Posts: 1,125	Gandalf has powered his way into the semi-finals, defeating Galadriel 7 votes to 6. Quarter Final 4: Sam in the second favourite to win the Popularity Cup now having impressed so far. In the first round he eased past Legolas and then managed to overcome the strong Aragron in the second round. His opponent today is almost his diametrical opposite and this is a clash between genres as much as it is a clash between characters. Sam - Túrin __________________ "You can always come back, but you can't come back all the way" ~ Bob Dylan Last edited by skip spence; 12-15-2008 at 12:40 PM. Reason: Corrected score

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