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[Boromir88]

Does the Cobbler/Spy get to find out the role of the person s/he spies on, or is that information given only to the Critics?~Fea

I can't see how the cobbler would be able to pass on info that xe didn't know xeself. (Did I use that properly?) That would make a giant continuity problem within the fabric of the performance.

Only my fellows could convince me otherwise (which is why you lived past Day1 in our last village together ).~Mac

So, is that what happened again last night?

Sort of indicates he'll make an explanation later, though he hasn't yet.~Brinn

Nobody asked...if and when someone does, I would ask that the say "please."

I did tell a lie, that well I should probably come clean with now since it's done and over. Not exactly a lie, more of an exaggeration, but I think it worked - or at least if I'm fooled I will have a clear conscience.

Mac's vote for Menel yesterday reminded me of his prior wolvery and denial about how he ever made a "case" against Brinn. But after stating Day 1 concerns I backed off for the rest of the game, only to be completely manhandled by him the rest of the time. I spent many a night beating myself up for never following up. So, whenever I next saw Mac make a move I thought suspicious, I promised myself I would go through with it. I did, and if he's running me around in circles again, at least I followed through this time, and can feel better about it. Basically, my vote for Mac had no good reason other than to make myself feel better for a prior mistake.

Edit: crossed with Lari

[Boromir88]

Beautiful analysis if I may say so myself Lari

The only thing I get is a growing animocity between Gwath and Nog from this page.

That is something I meant to check up on, after Ilya said:

The first three were the ones that really were instrumental on taking the Gwath/Nog opening sparring (which, when you look at it, is really nothing at all) and snowballing it.

The three that Ilya is referring to are Sally, Agan, and Lari.

I wanted to check up on it because there seems to be a significant contradiction. Ilya says it was blown out of proportions, others have made it out to be a high noon duel.

Which then got me thinking, I really miss the old fire pits, of intense, passionate battles. And that got me thinking, there's been a lot of tentativeness, I'm not remembering any significant sparring of singer vs. singer. Maybe, I'm partially to blame, because I'm slightly crazy and aggressive, but have been a little reserve.

Also, what's been off about Agan, is I know she's pretty feisty too when she gets going, so far I've gotten a laying back, commentary impression. I want a duel, who's up for one?

Those I will refuse to duel are tp, Lari, tgwbs, Mac, and Fea, either because I have no reason to or they could smoke me in a duel and I'd lose. I would welcome a challenge though from Agan, Brinn, or Shasta.

But, before that I ask you let me check up on this contradiction on whether there was much between the Gwath v. Nog yesterday, or if we had people who blew it out of proportion.

Edit: crossed with sally

[Boromir88]

Alright, so the Gwath v. Nogrod yesterday. The actual sparring seemed to be an argument over semantics, thus an argument over meaningless crap. Nogrod asks a question, says it's not an accusation, Gwath says oh but it is, but there is a bit of them ole fire pits between the two that I do see.

So, my question for Ilya, is why did you try to down play it?

Agan, Lari, and sally do use that against Nog, in effect, "snowballing" this vague feeling of discomfort around Nogrod.

And my question for you three is why did you snowball it?

There Brinn is why I'm looking at the Nogrod voters. The origins of the Menel suspiciouns we pretty lousy, but at least there was reason there for some concern.

The origins of the Nogrod suspicion was based off some gut feeling of discomfort and Nog seems "off." Isn't that an even more generic reason, and I don't even care if it's Day 1, that's just baloney.

And finally my question for you Brinn:

One thing: It's really bothering me that almost everyone is focusing on Nogrod's death alone. What about Menel?

Why all the big deal about people who were making a big deal about the Nogrod voters?

[Gwathagor]

Originally Posted by Boromir88

Alright, so the Gwath v. Nogrod yesterday. The actual sparring seemed to be an argument over semantics, thus an argument over meaningless crap.

I disagree. The argument, or the issue in question, from my perspective, had to do with what lay behindsemantics. It seemed to me that Nogrod had posed a question in an aggressive way and then tried to string me up for responding in kind. It was necessary to establish certain semantic facts in order to solve the question of whether he had indeed been accusing me, albeit in question form, and therefore whether my defensive response was merited. So, you see, while we were arguing semantics, that was not ultimately what was at stake.

Originally Posted by Boromir88

The origins of the Nogrod suspicion was based off some gut feeling of discomfort and Nog seems "off." Isn't that an even more generic reason, and I don't even care if it's Day 1, that's just baloney.

It seemed to me that as the Day wore on, fewer and fewer people were actually reading the argument we'd had and that they were getting their idea of it from what other people had said about it. That's happened to me before, two games ago I think, where something I've said (or not said) gets talked about enough that it takes on a significance and meaning apart from and greater than the fact itself. I rather think that's what happened here. Enough people talked about our argument that it became a greater issue than it necessarily was by nature. That's my take on it, anyway.

[Ilya]

Gwath: Your take on other people's reaction to the argument rings true to me. I certainly didn't go back and read it until today, and, to answer Boro's question, the whole thing took up like 4 posts on the thread between Gwath and Nog before other people ran with it. The actually interaction between the two of them didn't seem that big to me, is probably a more accurate way to put. I didn't mean to downplay the authenticity of their argument.

Lariren is officially awesome, and that analysis was very good indeed.

Brinn: You say that my vote was based on feeling, but so was yours. I'm regretting it now, not only because Bowie seems less suspicious but because I hadn't realized Menel and Nog were running so close in the vote tally and I could have done something about that. Those last 15 minutes were one big klutz-fest.

Brief thoughts before I go to bed:
Mac has fingerprints in both lynch cases, and from what Boro's said I'm beginning to develop some unease.

I kinda don't get Wild Man's suspicion of Brinn. She stayed on point with her suspicions, and was consistent about not wanting Menel lynched. Today she's pushing for analysis of Menel's death, though I think it's legit because of how much early attention Nog got.

Agan might just be the victim of bad timing, and she certainly experienced enough to see what the nog/gwath argument was about, but something's telling me that kind of Day 1 argument does nothing but stir up discussion and nobody should really take the inciting incident that seriously. It seems like it's always ordos who want to start stuff, and the wolves who jump on it later. Does that make any sense?

[Gwathagor]

Originally Posted by Ilya

It seems like it's always ordos who want to start stuff, and the wolves who jump on it later. Does that make any sense?

I really think it just depends on the player, Ilya. There are so many differences in style and theory from player to player, that it's very difficult to make that kind of generalization.

[Brinniel]

Originally Posted by Fea

So phantom, now that you're dead, do you intend to help the good guys or the bad guys? Was it specified that dead-but-still-talking OG is on anybody's side but his own?

I was wondering the same thing. Sure, tp can tell us he's on our side, but how do we know that for sure. At this point, tp's just playing for the fun of it, which means he can manipulate us in any way he wants, whether it's for good or bad. And that's exactly what I'd expect from him. While he cannot vote, we all know how much tp loves to tell us what to do. Since his alliances may shift on a Day to Day basis, all the more reason not to listen to him.

Originally Posted by Boro

Nobody asked...if and when someone does, I would ask that the say "please."

Alright then, would you please give a detailed explanation as to why you retracted your vote and voted Menel instead? I already somewhat guessed you reasons, but I don't know for sure if that's accurate and I'd like to hear the explanation in your words.

Originally Posted by Boro

Those I will refuse to duel are tp, Lari, tgwbs, Mac, and Fea, either because I have no reason to or they could smoke me in a duel and I'd lose. I would welcome a challenge though from Agan, Brinn, or Shasta.

Oh, while I'd love to duel you Boro, let us save it for another Day. While I do find you somewhat suspicious with your voting, some of your posts make me feel otherwise. In other words, you're not my lynching priority right now, so therefore I have no reason to duel you. And besides, I won't be here much longer toDay....

Originally Posted by Boro

Why all the big deal about people who were making a big deal about the Nogrod voters?

There's nothing wrong with looking at the Nogrod voters. Not at all. The big deal was that at the time, most players were solely focusing on the Nogrod voters and seemed to forget that Menel was also lynched.

Originally Posted by Ilya

Brinn: You say that my vote was based on feeling, but so was yours.

Yes, but as I said, it's not the reasoning behind your vote that bothers me, but who you voted for and what time you made it.

[Shastanis Althreduin]

I apologize for my inactivity toDay. It was the first day of classes of the new semester, and quite stressful. It is now four in the morning. I will post more when I wake up.

I would like to say, however, that apart from one thing that he said that made me raise an eyebrow, my vote for TGWBS was mostly a gut feeling.

[Brinniel]

Okay, some thoughts:

Sally: Haven't heard much from her toDay, surprisingly. YesterDay she was given some attention as a possible candidate. I wouldn't put it past her to make a wolf-Sally look good in the eyes of other players by doing everything in her power to prevent a double lynch. I don't think missing the deadline for her retraction was at all intentional, but I don't think her votes mean she's necessarily innocent and I'm disappointed in anyone who assumes otherwise.

Lariren: There are a lot of flaws in her posts, but it looks to me like typical newbie behaviour. If she's a critic, I would think she'd be partnered with some very experienced players to balance it out. But she looks pretty innocent to me.

Fea: Is a mixed bag. She's obviously trying to mislead someone...the question is whether she's trying to mislead the critics or mislead us...

Kath : Hasn't said much toDay, but says she'll be back (probably by the time I'm gone). So far, she seems pretty sensible and innocent to me.

Aganzir: Yay, it seems we're actually agreeing with each other. Of course, that doesn't mean she's innocent. But she hasn't said anything suspicious so far, so I have no reason to suspect her. However, I will keep an eye on her.

Gwath: Seems like his typical self. Looks alright to me.

Shasta: I want to hear more from him and he says he'll be back later, but once again, I'll probably be gone by then. I do feel sorry that he's already back in school. My classes don't start until the 20th!

Strongbow: I really need to hear more from him.

Mac: Funny, I x-posted with him with a post that seemed to be in a similar format...yet we came to completely different conclusions. Some of his opinions about the voting just seems odd, which makes me feel uneasy. YesterDay I felt okay about him, but toDay I'm getting some bad vibes.

Gollum: Hasn't shown up yet toDay. I understand he was behind yesterDay, but some of the posts he made indicate he was reading the most recent posts and should've known it was close between two candidates. Even if he didn't have a strong opinion on either, voting for someone who turns out to be innocent is better than letting a double lynch occur in my opinion. If he had abstained early in the Day, or his vote wouldn't have mattered anyway, it's not quite so bad. But he was there at a time where every vote was critical and at that point had read at least part of the Day...so I find the fact that he chose not to rather upsetting.

tgwbs: I found his voting yesterDay most suspicious, and I don't feel any better about his posts toDay. He's one of those who solely focused on Noggie's lynching, and I disagree with some of his suspicions. Also, why does he think tp being around makes up for the double lynch? It's still a loss in numbers.

Boromir : As I already said before, I don't at all like his voting record, but his posts don't look overly suspicious. Specifically #310, which has good reasoning behind his thoughts. Nevertheless, I do want to keep a close eye on him.

Cailineomer: I really need to hear more from either of them...two posts is just not enough. Though from the little we've heard so far, nothing suspicious.

So...

Suspicious:
Gollum
tgwbs
Mac

Somewhat Suspicious:
Boromir
Sally

No Idea:
Fea
Aganzir
Shasta
Strongbow

Leaning Innocentish:
Cailineomer

Innocentish:
Lariren
Gwath

[Mithalwen]

for a moddess to read!

*happy*

Few notes... it should be clear that the Phantom isn't going anywhere whatever schemes you kick up because it amuses me that he is around.

The soulmates are not lovers in the usual sense .. both are ordos and they are not out for themselves. That is why I didn't call them lovers....

They are really just shirriffs (Masons) however a surviving soulmate becomes effectively a one strike assassin. Has the power to attack one other once at any later part of the game. Not obliged to use power - little wild card.

Hope that is clear.

[Lariren Shadow]

Boro, I've come to expect tricks but am I wrong in believing this:

Originally Posted by Mithalwen

The soulmates are not lovers in the usual sense .. both are ordos and they are not out for themselves. That is why I didn't call them lovers....

So therefore the theory that Fea could be a soulmate and her soulmate could be something special doesn't really hold. Unless I shouldn't believe that.

[Lariren Shadow]

Originally Posted by Boromir88

Agan, Lari, and sally do use that against Nog, in effect, "snowballing" this vague feeling of discomfort around Nogrod.

And my question for you three is why did you snowball it?

My answer is I didn't mean to nor did I intend to. I thought that Nog was special, not a critic though. I was actually more suspicious of Gwath in the whole thing, but then read what others were saying and about how that was Nog's usual behavior and how it would make him more of a critic than anyone else so that's why I made the comment.

Long way around. Now I need to go and look at most of the other posts and see about who is saying what.

[Aganzir]

Ha I just realised I was at least right about something when listing phantom as neither guilty nor innocent yesterday.

Originally Posted by Mac

But Aganzir, we've been wolves together once: you know that, when evil, I give every effort to appear the exact same way I do when innocent...

I know! But they still remind me of wolfish you.
However from now on I promise to try to come up with some actual reasons for my suspicions because my gut suspicions against sally in last game were disastrous. (This doesn't mean I'd withdraw my Mac suspicions yet though.)

Originally Posted by Ilya

Bowie's doesn't seem intimidated by more experienced players, and since TP wasn't a huge subject of discussion on Day 1, aside from his cryptic playing with Fea, it might've seemed like as good a time as any to remove the threat.

I still fail to see your logic. Why wouldn't anyone else enjoy killing phantom then? Also his post today didn't help me understand his logic much (or well I understand it but I disagree with him). I'm not fond of deciding which is more important to kill first, cobbler of critics.

Originally Posted by tgwbs

Aganzir - Wild Man no understand why she vote so late. She present long before last-minute vote. Why late vote?

Because I didn't realise what time it was until 25 past. I was reading through the thread and trying to decide who to vote. Plus I always vote rather late if I'm around for deadline.

Originally Posted by tgwbs

Also, she should know not kill Nog day 1 for normal behaviour!

Nog behaves similarly enough when wolf so why should 'normal behaviour' make him innocent? I still think he was suspicious yesterday.

Originally Posted by Boro

May I ask Agan, did your involvement in your last game wear you down a bit?

I don't think so but school start certainly did. I'm a bit too tired to come up with anything original, and thus far I've only been able to be online a couple of hours when the day has started just to return two or three hours before deadline.

Originally Posted by Brinn on Mac

Probably the least suspicious of the Menel voters. His suspicions of him came from the beginning.

Yeah, in the beginning he said Menel was too careful. I didn't think so so I can't right away see where he was coming from. His own vote was rather easy.

Originally Posted by Brinn

Did you quts really think Noggie was the divo?

(I'm laughing at that Brinn qut)

Sorry Boro I won't duel you at least for now.

Originally Posted by Boro

And my question for you three is why did you snowball it?

Because I didn't like it. It looked like Nog was provoking Gwath to incriminate himself.

I don't like Gollum getting votes today. It's too easy.

See? I have this little to say.

Besides I have no idea who I will vote today.

Sorry I'm just so tired. I'll try to do something useful.

edit: xed with phantom

[Boromir88]

In these sorts of situations I generally take a blind shot at a submarine.~tp

Usually I would say that's playing it safe, and to win you can't footsy around, you have to go for the juggular. But this time I will agree, we have a couple more assets (and thus more people we don't want to lynch). Also, I remember the big downfall for the wolves in The Republic was the unexpected surprise in the lynching of a submarine - The Ka. That opened the door of you and I to make our moves.

So, in this set up, at this time, I say safe route is a good choice to go.

That should be a bit of comfort to those of you who fear Fea or Boro- if they aren't Critics then they'll be Night killed rather soon.

Come on tp, don't spill out all my plans! I have always been a good keeper of yours, or at least I hope I have.

*Note: By me saying this now lets see what the Critics will make of this little move. Walk in, I dare 'em.

[the guy who be short]

Wild Man say: if must lynch "submarine", better lynch Shasta than Gollum. As Wild Man say, kill Gollum seem foolish without reason other than "he absent".

[Mithalwen]

Fea darling. Cobbler is a SPY. Walter si not in a trance. Dead drop means he has no direct contact with critics. Of course he knows what he saw...

As for Soulmate.. I refer you to my previous statement ...

[Feanor of the Peredhil]

Originally Posted by the guy who be short

Wild Man say: if must lynch "submarine", better lynch Shasta than Gollum. As Wild Man say, kill Gollum seem foolish without reason other than "he absent".

I agree. Unless Gollum goes Gil-absent, it seems silly to vote for him today. Particularly because there are others I find significantly more concerning.

Concerned

Boro
Ilya
Gwath

Leaning innocent

Lari
Brinn
sally
tgwbs
Mac

Need more to go on

phantom
Kath
Shasta
Bowie
Gollum
Cailineomer
Agan

I intend to vote for Gwath (due to his defensive behavior against all things, and due to the fact that there's nobody on my list I'd rather vote for).

I'm forgetting somebody on that list. Who am I forgetting?

[Lariren Shadow]

Sally: Has had suspicions thrown at her since Day 1. I’m entirely not sure where these are coming from. Seems innocent enough going through Day 1. Nothing much more and seems innocent enough.

Fea: When I started this list she hadn’t posted a lot, but then did. Is seriously good at playing this game and I'm not sure what to think about her. I'm beginning to suspect something about her though and leaning towards the guilty part.

Ilya: Has been very helpful in posting all of the comments about the voting. Leads me to suspect innocence. It just doesn't feel like something someone who was guilty would do.

Brinn: Has not given me anything to suspect. All of her votes have been clearly explained and well thought out.

Kath: Am pretty sure is innocent as well.

Agan: Has a voice of reason and picks up on things. I’m not sure what to think about her other than she’s good at the game. I don’t really think she is a critic but I wouldn’t be surprised if she was one.

Gwath: Can not get a real good reading on him. I think I'm leaning towards more innocent than anything else, but I'm going to keep my eye on him.

Shasta: Am still suspicious of from yesterday. I might take TGWBS's advice on the submarine vote, but actually leaning away from it. Shasta hasn't said anything today, while it could be a good critic ploy, from what I've heard and seen it doesn't feel like that.

Strongbow: Hasn’t said much today but justified lack of vote. But gives me suspicions because of this comment “it's easier to spot that dodgy, flighty behavior on Day 2 or even Day 3.” Going by that logic then we should be looking at him. Given the whole not showing up or posting thing. Am suspicious of him as well.

Mac: Said this “Mac: Yeesh... once I have to vote early and believe that you auditioners are smart enough to not do something terribly foolish, and then that.” It gives me the impression of something sinister. Singling himself out from the rest of us. It just rubs me the wrong. Add this with the whole Menel voting thing and it makes me sense a critic. I think I’m going to lean towards voting for Mac tonight.

Gollum: Hasn’t posted at all toDay. I’m not sure what’s going on with him. Brinn mentioned RL stuff so that would make sense but, well, still not here. There is a part of me that wants to be like Brinn and vote him off based on the whole no show thing. But its a very small part.

TGWBS: Should be kept for entertainment value. Plus I really see nothing that he's said that hasn't made sense or was sneaky.

Boro: Has been active and a voice of reason about looking at the votes. I'm not going to fall for his whole "the phantom gave my plan" thing because I don't think he's a wolf. Plus its too obvious for him to do that.

Cailin: Hasn’t said that much but at least did show up today. Seems innocent enough though. Showed up while making the list. Still seems innocent.

Guilty:
Shasta
Mac

Leaning towards up to something/possibly guilty:
Fea
Agan
Gollum

Leaning towards innocent:
Gwath
Ilya
Boro
Cailin

Innocent:
Sally
Brinn
Kath
TGWBS

Have no idea who's side he's on:
OG

Probably will be x-posted with everyone. Huh, I didn't.

[Kath]

Hi all, sorry for my late arrival but it is the end of the working week and apparently it wore me out as I've just woken up from an unexpected nap! As a result this is going to be a little rushed.

So, let's have a quick look at what people have been doing:

Boro - thought looking at who might want to kill phantom would give clues as to who the critics might be, I personally believe the list would include everyone except Boro and Fea and so doesn't do us much good! Pretty much accuses sally. Carries on with his suspicion of sally, saying that her just out of time retract could have been carefully designed to be just out of time - I think that's grasping at straws really, especially given that it was Day 1 and no one knew how strict Mith was going to be about the deadline.

Lariren - I'm still inclined to leave her be. I think she's doing pretty well so far with keeping up with this madness and she doesn't look particularly suspicious either.

Ilya - says Agan and Lariren started the suspicions against Nog. Has done nothing but post quotes. Now that can be helpful, but not when we get none of her own comments in there. Did post with her thoughts, but there is some really odd reasoning behind them. Why would killing phantom be something Strongbow would want to do over anyone else? If Lariren was 'just kind of agreeing' and then changed direction then why is that suspicious? It just feels suspicious. What was that about a 48 Day, as we didn't have one the Day before why would she assume it?

Gwath - strange that I am less happy with him when he isn't oddly abrasive! The comment that caught my attention was only a response to phantom's role revelation though.

Mac - takes back his voting for Menel. It feels innocent.

Agan - can't work out why everyone is so appalled by the fact that people voted for Nog. I'm with her a bit on that, he was a bit suspicious yesterDay, the way he reacted to what Gwath said was odd. I can see where a case against him would spring from.

Brinn - says about the same as Agan actually, as well as mentioning the very fair point that actually Menel was lynched at the same time and we can get information from that as well.

Strongbow - explains his reasoning for the Day 2 Cobbler comment. Why would the Cobbler be more likely to accidentally give himself away on any Day?

Cailin - her apology, well it feels innocent, but I wish she had spent more of the post talking about her theories on toDay rather than just apologising.

Ah I'm out of time and haven't really finished. I also want to say that I think Fea is too quiet and I do share some of tgwbs' suspicions.

Right now I think Ilya and Boro seem the most suspicious, though I'm not convinced about Boro.

++ILYA

I'd like to have gone through a bit more thoroughly but from what I've seen so far I think that posting all the quotes and the voting tally is trying to look helpful while actually not being and that the reasoning behind her suspicions seems very odd.

[Boromir88]

I would prefer Ilya, Gollum, or Cailin, over Strongbow, sally, or Shasta, as far as submarines.

I wouldn't call Kath, Lari or Gwath submarines, because a submarine implies not only quietness but suspicion. Kath, Lari, and Gwath I think we could continue to expect consistent participation, and I see no reason to believe them wolves.

Out of the ones I've listed above then. Like Kath and Gwath, I think we could expect the participation (how much of it they are able to give) from Strongbow, Shasta, and sally. I just don't have the innocent vibe from them, like I do from Kath and Gwath. More like an indifferent.

I think Ilya is more likely to be a wolf than the other two I mentioned in the first sentence. It's arguable as to whether she's really submarine though, because she's posted the most out of them, but she's a submarine in the sense that she's going rather unnoticed.

As helpful as her quoting has been, it scares me, because it reminds me of so much of Brinn's strategy in The Republic. She did admit that's what she thought when posting, but I'm still not convinced she's entirely innocent. Also, I'm scratching my head as to what she saw from me to suspect Mac. Maybe it was from yesterday? The "oh and what Boro said about you too" is just - well suspicious.

On the flip side, Ilya would probably be the riskiest choice, and that is she will be participating more so than the other submarines. But, her behavior today seems to fit more with a Cobbler who could be posting a bunch of stuff and really not say anything about it. Plus saying some things that really don't make sense. Or a critic who saw how successful Brinn was with this strategy and tried the same.

Cailin I'm not sure what to say, definitely a submarine, some questions, but not the most suspicious and really not all the suspicious. Just kind of hidden in the crowd.

Gollum would probably be the safest choice to go, also I have no idea what to expect as far as participation wise. This kind of approach I highly doubt would be a gifted, and I doubt would be a critics, we'd be probably be lynching an ordo, and playing it safe to avoid a disastrous decision.

Edit: crossed with everyone since last post

[Aganzir]

Originally Posted by Boromir88 on Ilya

She did admit that's what she thought when posting, but I'm still not convinced she's entirely innocent.

I think it's a part of her playing style to admit it if she's doing suspicious things so I wouldn't use it as an argument for nor against her guilt.

I wouldn't like to vote Gollum because he hasn't posted much yet. Then again last (& only) time I played with him he didn't post much anyway. I wouldn't like to vote Shasta either as he can be really helpful if he just has time. I'd rather vote Ilya than Bowie although voting either of them would feel unfair as I don't have much of an idea about them. I could vote sally but it'd feel unfair too, given last game. Of Cailineomer I really don't know.

I don't think you're forgetting anyone Fea.

edit: xed with Lari & Fea

[Aganzir]

Guilty
sally. No she isn't a top suspect, I'm just copying the names in the order they are on Mith's list. She's been playing rather conveniently and I want to go through her posts to form a proper opinion.
Fea. I'm wary of her. The questions concerning phantom and cobbler tgwbs quoted in #329 were something a critic Fea could say.
Mac. I'm not feeling very confident but he's my top suspect right now. I'm planning to go through his posts at some point.
tgwbs. Probably because I so often find that my opinion is the complete opposite to his. I wouldn't be surprised if either Fea or him was a wolf.

Innocent
Lari is leaning innocent. Her analysis was nice.
Brinn. I'm agreeing with her scarily much given how much I often disagree with her. Anyway she's the one I'm feeling the most comfortable with for the time being.
Boro is another one I'm feeling quite good about now.

Neither
Ilya. I don't understand her logic concerning Bowie and why he'd kill phantom, and I also can't see why she was less suspicious of him after knowing why he didn't vote. Why is not voting suspicious in the first place? Apart from that I don't know, except that she suspected me.
Kath is slipping under my radar.
Gwath. Hmm I think he's rather innocentish but right now I can't remember anything he has said, apart from he & Nog's quarrel yesterday.
Shasta is nowhere to be seen.
Bowie. I don't like to make any plans as for which baddie is more important to find first and therefore his concentrating on it yesterday seems odd to me. Apart from that there's quite little to go on.
Gollum is nowhere to be seen.
Cailineomer. Too little to go on.

[Macalaure]

Originally Posted by Brinn

Also, you didn't exactly share what you thought of this "Saving Private Nogrod" act. Perhaps you stated your opinions elsewhere, but I'm not going to bother looking again through your posts at this hour.

A couple of persons were uncomfortable with lynching Nogrod and voted/retracted in order to save him. While a critic might do so to make himself look good henceforth, given that Nogrod was an ordo, I think trying to save him was an innocent affair. Too bad Menel had to suffer for it.

Originally Posted by Sally

Yes, and you're brilliant at it. Too brilliant, in fact, and from being your partner before I know just how dangerous you can be, little mister.

Originally Posted by tgwbs

However, Wild Man think unwise vote Gollum. Currently, suspicion of Gollum base on lack of input, which poor reason Day 2.

Wild man = Wise man.