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Tuor in Gondolin · 02-25-2009, 03:34 PM

Azog put up a heady struglgle
against The Master of Disaster but
lost on a tiebreaker! If only Legate of Amon Lanc
had voted sooner.

Morgoth-4 Azog-4

Now on to the Elite Eight.

[B (6) ]Carcharoth vs. Scatha (1)
(4) Smaug vs. Sauron (2)

(5) Glaurung vs. William (1)
(5) Grima Wormtongue vs. Morgoth[/B] (4)

Next: Carcharoth vs. Scatha the Worm

Morthoron · 02-25-2009, 03:42 PM

I will have to deviate from voting for dragons and go for...

++Carcharoth

There's just not enough info on poor Scatha to make him that interesting.

Macalaure · 02-25-2009, 04:11 PM

Scatha's armour is like tenfold shields, his teeth are swords, his claws spears, the shock of his tail a thunderbolt, his wings... not really there..., and his breath... umm... chilly.

++Carcharoth

Nerwen · 02-26-2009, 03:00 AM

What they said.

++Carcharoth.

Tuor in Gondolin · 02-26-2009, 09:23 AM

There does seem to be a surfeit of dragons
(or is it a gaggle)?

+ + Carcharoth

Rikae · 02-26-2009, 09:43 AM

This may be unduly influenced by the fact that I read a great fanfic about him once, but whatever:

+ + Carcharoth

Legate of Amon Lanc · 02-26-2009, 03:37 PM

What, people!!! You've got to be crazy!!!!! Scatha is the coolest (literally) dragon ever. (Smaug is the hottest. Glaurung, as stated before, is a stupid worm.)

Come on. He has cool name. He was killed by a man from Éotheod, that is, almost Rohirrim. Now tell me about anything as unique as a Rohir killing a Dragon. He lived in the Grey Mountains, but appartently so close to the edge of the Wilderness that it'd make you scream and run for Rivendell. Not that Rivendell would be safe. Rather, you'd run for Lindon.

And besides that, his mere teeth caused a murder, which is something not even a whole person can sometimes accomplish, let alone her teeth. So, really. Is there that much about Carcharoth anyway, in contrary to Scatha? He was just a lazy wolf.

++Scatha

And P.S.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tuor in Gondolin

If only Legate of Amon Lanc
had voted sooner.

Hey, it's if Skip Spence voted sooner. Or, if Lommy did not vote... hmph...

Groin Redbeard · 02-26-2009, 03:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Legate of Amon Lanc

And besides that, his mere teeth caused a murder, which is something not even a whole person can sometimes accomplish, let alone her teeth. So, really. Is there that much about Carcharoth anyway, in contrary to Scatha?

It's more of the story that goes with Carcharoth. The only result we see from Scatha is the fleeing of the Dwarves, and the later dislike between them and the northerners. However, Carcharoth one of the chief evil characters in the Tokien's best love story. Carcharoth is the one who thwarts Beren and Luthien's plans just when the reader is breathing a sigh of relief, and later comes back and slays Beren (which was so heart tugging the first time you read it

). Also, let's not forget about Carcharoth's legendary battle with Huan, where the anger of Morgoth and the justice of the Valar fought!

++Carcharoth

Legate of Amon Lanc · 02-26-2009, 03:50 PM

Let it be noted that I strongly object against dumping Scatha just like that. He was one of the best characters in this whole competition, not counting several Orcs who have been already dropped. And don't say he didn't get quite a lot of support in the earlier rounds.

Groin Redbeard · 02-26-2009, 03:52 PM

Like Azog, Scatha has a cool name and is interesting to know about compared to how little is written of him. However, when you get to some of the hard core evil characters it is only right that they step aside.

Legate of Amon Lanc · 02-26-2009, 04:07 PM

If you consider Carcharoth particularly special...

Besides, who was the one to vote Azog instead of Grishnákh, who was certainly as great baddie as Carcharoth (even far better from my personal point of view, but even when being as minimalistic as possible, you have to agree that he reaches Carcharoth's qualities, if nothing else).

Tuor in Gondolin · 02-26-2009, 05:54 PM

The Red Maw devours another opponent:

Carcharoth-6 Scatha the Worm-1

A fun fact: If you want your pet to grow up as big
and strong as the Jaws of Thirst this diet
regimen may be required:

Quote:

Born of the foul breed of the Wolves of Angband and fed by Morgoth's own hand with Elvish and man-flesh in which Morgoth deliberately infused his own powers

Next: Smaug vs. Sauron

02-25-2009, 03:34 PM	#1
Tuor in Gondolin Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Southeast Pennsylvania Posts: 3,651	Azog put up a heady struglgle against The Master of Disaster but lost on a tiebreaker! If only Legate of Amon Lanc had voted sooner. Morgoth-4 Azog-4 Now on to the Elite Eight. [B (6) ]Carcharoth vs. Scatha (1) (4) Smaug vs. Sauron (2) (5) Glaurung vs. William (1) (5) Grima Wormtongue vs. Morgoth[/B] (4) Next: Carcharoth vs. Scatha the Worm __________________ The poster formerly known as Tuor of Gondolin. Walking To Rivendell and beyond 12,555 miles passed Nt./Day 5: Pass the beacon on Nardol, the 'Fire Hill.' Last edited by Tuor in Gondolin; 03-07-2009 at 08:06 PM.

02-25-2009, 03:42 PM	#2
Morthoron Curmudgeonly Wordwraith Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Ensconced in curmudgeonly pursuits Posts: 2,515	I will have to deviate from voting for dragons and go for... ++Carcharoth There's just not enough info on poor Scatha to make him that interesting. __________________ And your little sister's immaculate virginity wings away on the bony shoulders of a young horse named George who stole surreptitiously into her geography revision.

02-26-2009, 03:00 AM	#4
Nerwen Wisest of the Noldor Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: ˙˙˙ssɐןƃ ƃuıʞooן ǝɥʇ ɥƃnoɹɥʇ Posts: 6,694	What they said. ++Carcharoth. __________________ "Even Nerwen wasn't evil in the beginning." –Elmo.

02-26-2009, 09:23 AM	#5
Tuor in Gondolin Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Southeast Pennsylvania Posts: 3,651	There does seem to be a surfeit of dragons (or is it a gaggle)? + + Carcharoth __________________ The poster formerly known as Tuor of Gondolin. Walking To Rivendell and beyond 12,555 miles passed Nt./Day 5: Pass the beacon on Nardol, the 'Fire Hill.'

02-26-2009, 03:50 PM	#9
Legate of Amon Lanc A Voice That Gainsayeth Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: In that far land beyond the Sea Posts: 7,431	Let it be noted that I strongly object against dumping Scatha just like that. He was one of the best characters in this whole competition, not counting several Orcs who have been already dropped. And don't say he didn't get quite a lot of support in the earlier rounds. __________________ "Should the story say 'he ate bread,' the dramatic producer can only show 'a piece of bread' according to his taste or fancy, but the hearer of the story will think of bread in general and picture it in some form of his own." -On Fairy-Stories

02-25-2009, 04:11 PM	#3
Macalaure Fading Fëanorion Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: into the flood again Posts: 2,911	Scatha's armour is like tenfold shields, his teeth are swords, his claws spears, the shock of his tail a thunderbolt, his wings... not really there..., and his breath... umm... chilly. ++Carcharoth

02-26-2009, 09:43 AM	#6
Rikae Mellifluous Maia Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: A glade open to the stars, deep in Nan Elmoth Posts: 3,489	This may be unduly influenced by the fact that I read a great fanfic about him once, but whatever: + + Carcharoth

02-26-2009, 03:52 PM	#10
Groin Redbeard Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Facing the world's troubles with Christ's hope! Posts: 1,635	Like Azog, Scatha has a cool name and is interesting to know about compared to how little is written of him. However, when you get to some of the hard core evil characters it is only right that they step aside. __________________ I heard the bells on Christmas Day. Their old, familiar carols play. And wild and sweet the words repeatof peace on earth, good-will to men! ~Henry Wadsworth Longfellow

02-26-2009, 04:07 PM	#11
Legate of Amon Lanc A Voice That Gainsayeth Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: In that far land beyond the Sea Posts: 7,431	If you consider Carcharoth particularly special... Besides, who was the one to vote Azog instead of Grishnákh, who was certainly as great baddie as Carcharoth (even far better from my personal point of view, but even when being as minimalistic as possible, you have to agree that he reaches Carcharoth's qualities, if nothing else). __________________ "Should the story say 'he ate bread,' the dramatic producer can only show 'a piece of bread' according to his taste or fancy, but the hearer of the story will think of bread in general and picture it in some form of his own." -On Fairy-Stories

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