WW LXI: Grimm Tales

[Mithalwen]

Well you helped get innocent Nienna lynched which is more than TP or I did, so do be so self righteous.

[wilwarin538]

It's done. Stop please.

Narration soon.

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

I'm drowning in tears.

[the phantom]

*goes back to bed*

[wilwarin538]

The sun began to set again on our little village, the Day had gone by quickyly, with much arguing and they now knew they had to choose.

Fair Mithalwen received the most votes and was slowly led to the gallows. They led her solemnly to the hidden little section of town, all remembering the tragic events of the previous Day. Mith suddenly stopped and turned around, facing the crowd with a very distraught look on her face.

"It's you isn't it?!" She yelled pointing at a certain villager, "Or is it you?!" she yelled again pointing at another. She did this 3 more times, and when she didn't get the answer she wanted she quietly said "All I wanted was my baby back."

"What is she talking about?" McCaber asked, very confused and suspicious.

"It doesn't matter, she's just trying to fool us." Agan added as they continued to lead Mith up to the hanging noose.

"Yeah, we can't let her trick us." Eomer agreed, placing the rope around her neck.

The villagers stood back and watched, not acting as barbarically as they had the previous Day. A tear ran down Mith's cheek as she began to say "All I wanted was my...." but the pull of the lever cut her off.

Nothing happened. A faint chill went down everyone's spines as they swore they could hear the cry of a young child in the distance. They shook off the, what had to be, imaginary sound as they all parted ways and walked towards their homes.

The evil Rumpelstiltskin smiled to himself as he slowly shrunk down to his proper form. He had gotten away with it, he was now safe from her and had won his prize.

The baddies walked towards the Old Witch's house yet again, preparing to cause more havic to the innocent little village. The Night began to grow darker.

The dead:
Nienna - bookkeeper - hung Day 1 - ordinary villager
Lommy – minstrel – mauled Night 2 – ordinary villager
Mith - herbalist - lynched Day 2 - Fair Maiden

The living:
Nerwen - bookmaker
Eomer - gravedigger
Aganzir - jailor, arena and lions included
Sally - some poor serving girl who has no money to buy sweets
McCaber - humble shopkeeper
Izzy - baker
Mira - apothocary
Gaurcrist - blacksmith
Shasta - fletcher
Gwath - drunk vagrant
Boro88 - the shruberrer
Kath - restaurant owner
Inziladun - shruberrer's apprentice
Fea - Storyteller
Greenie - school teacher
Lari - fortune teller
the phantom - the crazy book liberator

It is now Night 3. Baddies may discuss. Names please from all those who owe me them.

[wilwarin538]

The sun rose on our little village yet again and the villagers gathered in the middle of the town square. After a quick look around it became obvious that Boro was the one missing.

The crowd drew close together and began walking towards the shrubber’s house. It was a cute little house, with a lawn covered in various sized shrubs. Any stranger would have a difficult time navigating through the maze; but the villagers had all visited Boro many times so they arrived at his door quickly.

A familiar sight was before them, the door had been broken down just like Lommy’s. They stepped in cautiously and made their way through each room until they arrived at the kitchen. They smelt butter and garlic before they found him.

Boro was on the floor, his legs were missing and there was a small puddle of butter around him mixed in with blood. The villagers stared at him in shock.

“Why his legs? That’s so odd…” Inziladun said, quite distraught over the loss of his employer.

“Noooooooooooo!!!” Sally cried as she pushed to the front of the crowd. She fell on her knees beside Boro and began to sob. “But we had such little time together, how could you leave me?”

The villagers stared on in shock as Sally reached for a large pair of shrubbing shears. “I know you’d want me to be strong, but I just can’t do this without you.” She cried before bowing her head and thrusting the giant scissors into her torso.

The villagers watched this tragic sight with their mouths gaping open. Then one by one they bowed their heads at the scene and then left the room. The Fairy Godmother held back and slowly slipped a letter into the hand of the wielder of the looking glass. He took it and slipped it into his pocket. As they walked out their eyes met quickly and they were both grateful to have a new ally, especially after the terrible scene they had just witnessed.

They all made their way to the village square once again and began discussing, hoping today would be the day they would succeed.

The dead:
Nienna - bookkeeper - hung Day 1 - ordinary villager
Lommy – minstrel – mauled Night 2 – ordinary villager
Mith - herbalist - lynched Day 2 - Fair Maiden
Boro88 - the shruber – yum, frog legs Night 3 – Frog-Prince
Sally – poor serving girl – died of shear sorrow Night 3 - Princess

The living:
Nerwen - bookmaker
Eomer - gravedigger
Aganzir - jailor, arena and lions included
McCaber - humble shopkeeper
Izzy - baker
Mira - apothocary
Gaurcrist - blacksmith
Shasta - fletcher
Gwath - drunk vagrant
Kath - restaurant owner
Inziladun - shruberrer's apprentice
Fea - Storyteller
Greenie - school teacher
Lari - fortune teller
the phantom - the crazy book liberator

It is now Day 3. You may discuss. Names please form all those who need to give me one.

[Lariren Shadow]

Well that was not good. Not good at all.

And I'm going to go back on my word as I'm not feeling too hot at the moment and going to vote now. I really do promise to be there toMorrow. Really truly do.

So my vote is for

++Fea

She seems to be playing with few words and such. To me, when she does that, at least recently, she has been guilty.

Off to go lye in bed.

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

Does this mean Sally picked Boro last night, causing him to turn into the prince, only for one of them to be attacked by the wolves?

Also, why did Mith insist we go after Shasta today? I thought she was hinting that she was the Seer but obviously not.

[Mithalwen]

Eomer ... go for Shata tomorrow it is worth it . please .... make the wolves kill me or ..... this will mean you are another Ordo down.

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

Originally Posted by Mithalwen

Eomer ... go for Shata tomorrow it is worth it . please .... make the wolves kill me or ..... this will mean you are another Ordo down.

Yep, this be a strange one to decipher.

Ok, ok, Shasta comes out on Day One and professes that he is an Ordo. This was seen by some as strange, though I thought "fair enough" seeing how the majority of villagers have some sort of role.

But in this village, as has been remarked upon, this is a clear invitation, whether deliberate on Shasta's part or not, for the BBW to choose him. There's a fair chance he has been chosen by BBW, and a decent enough chance of him actually being LRC - and thus a wolf.

Is it enough to go on? Maybe he was bluffing and was a wolf to begin with, or possibly even a good gifted. And there was originally a greater chance of him being a normal Ordo, but now that Nienna and Lommy have been proven normal...

[Nerwen]

Originally Posted by Eomer of the Rohirrim

Is it enough to go on? Maybe he was bluffing and was a wolf to begin with, or possibly even a good gifted. And there was originally a greater chance of him being a normal Ordo, but now that Nienna and Lommy have been proven normal...

Ahem. I explained this yesterDay: Wilwa said she wouldn't tell us if Red Cap were to die before being turned, so it could have been Lommy or Nienna– the odds of Shasta being LRC haven't changed.

(The odds that he's been checked by the BBW, on the other hand...)

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

Originally Posted by Nerwen

Ahem. I explained this yesterDay: Wilwa said she wouldn't tell us if Red Cap were to die before being turned, so it could have been Lommy or Nienna– the odds of Shasta being LRC haven't changed.

(The odds that he's been checked by the BBW, on the other hand...)

Ack, sorry. Bad Eomer, back to the cellar with ye...

That's the second time I've misread the rules.

Ignore me henceforth.

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

Now, a lot of the votes yesterday, when people were choosing between Boro, Mith and Izzy, are interesting. It might be worth lynching Izzy on the off-chance that she is a wolf, because if so it will give us loads of info. I think this was mentioned before but now I see it for myself.

Also, Gwathagor's voting has been just really horrible. Voting Boro on the first day, apparently because he had decided beforehand to vote for him; then Boro again on the second day, to keep consistent; and now Aganzir totally out-of-the-blue on one comment that no-one else has even picked up on.

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

Lari for Boro: doesn't like the way he sounds. Pretty meaningless vote.

Gaurcrist for Boro: gut feeling vote.

Kath for Eomer: something to do with Lommy's posts - unexplained really.

Mirandir for Fea: Hmm. Unclear.

Boro for Mith.

Sally for Eomer: another gut feeling vote.

Gwath for Boro: consistency with previous vote.

Izzy for Mith: she thought Mith's posts were lacking substance.

Shasta for Mith: because he preferred her to Boro or Eomer.

Inziladun for Kath: unexplained.

Nerwen for Izzy: rather her than Boro, Mith or Eomer.

Aganzir for Izzy: rather her than Boro or Mith.

Mith for Izzy: self-preservation, I guess.

Phantom for Izzy: I guess instead of Boro or Mith.

Green for Mith: rather her than Izzy or Boro.

Eomer for Shasta: can't decide between Boro, Mith and Izzy.

McCaber for Mith: unexplained.

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

Leaning towards innocent:

Aganzir (despite her testing me ), Nerwen, Gaurcrist (maybe).

Thinking evil:

Phantom, Gwath, Kath, Greenie, Lari.

In between

McCaber, Inziladun, Fea, Mirandir, Izzy and.... Shasta.

[Kath]

Hmm now it seems people are confused over my vote from yesterDay, or at least Inzil and Eomer are. Clearly some people are too lazy to go back and look for the previous post!

So:

Now here's something. From the post before I'd have guessed that Lommy would vote Nienna, then suddenly she has a flip-flop and ends up voting Shasta. Eomer seems to cross-post a bit with his vote for Nienna and I wonder whether he was going for a safe position in a bandwagon there.

Was my reasoning.

I'm also slightly confused by Inzil's reasoning for voting me yesterDay:

Kath has been calmly dropping in from time to time, offering a few perfectly legitimate observations, than quietly disappearing. She has set her vote for Eomer, who I haven't gotten much from, and offered no good reason for doing so.

So ... I have good observations, and I'm calm ... and thus am suspicious? And, I did so have a reason for voting Eomer. *points up*

Off to help unpack shopping, back in a bit.

[Kath]

Well Kath, in Lommy's game I decided to become a loudmouth again, like I was in the early Werewolf games. I had become a shadowy figure since then, so now I've reverted back to annoying guy who should be killed.

Ah, I see. Interesting possible bluff.

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

Voting me because I cross-posted?

You are certainly not off the hook.

[Aganzir]

When examining my behaviour during the later half of yesterday, you might want to keep in mind the fact that I had slept altogether 10-11 hours during the previous two nights. I don't know about you others, but my energy level has more to do with how I post than my role so I should probably start posting on the admin thread every time I've slept less than seven hours.

Originally Posted by Inzil

As yet I do not have past histories of players to rely on and am pretty much learning as I go.

I was talking about their behaviour in this game, not in general. Kath has been far more substantial than, say, Mira.

Originally Posted by Inzil

I thought my reasoning no flimsier than that used by others when people have actually been lynched.

Sometimes people are lynched on flimsy grounds. Truth is, when telling why you suspected Kath, you mostly described what she had been doing and said her un-explained vote sounded bad. Well Kath said she had run out of time, and although she would've wanted to go through his posts, she was happy with her vote. I can't see what was suspicious about that, and your comment looks opportunistic.

Eomer - a hypothetical question. Would your conscience allow you to fake your knowledge about the rules if doing so would make you look better in the eyes of the village?

Originally Posted by Izzy

Why didn't you use that as your reason yesterDay?

Because that day my main reason was that I didn't want Boro or Mith to die. But as you can see from my post #314, I found you suspicious, and mentioned also those things, so I just voted for one of my suspects.

Originally Posted by Izzy

Why would I do such a thing when I thought Boro innocent, and Eomer no idea?

Tell me that. Yet it was you who said we shouldn't think their confusion about the roles pointed to their innocence. Of course their confusion didn't mean they're innocent, no one said so, but you were trying to altogether downplay the whole thing. Like, "hey village keep suspecting them, this doesn't mean anything!"

Originally Posted by Izzy

How is my suspicions of Shasta weird?

Okay sorry - here I admit to being reckless (I decided to go with my gut and not go back to check how things actually were - I had so little time). The thing I found weird about it was how you kept labouring the point of his ordo claim being a bluff, it came across as if you were trying to use every single reason you could find to suspect him.

Phantom why do you think Izzy's claim would have been challenged in eight minutes if she isn't the ranger when half the village is away?

Nerwen and Kath look good.
Inzil and Mira look bad.

**

Okay today.

Originally Posted by Greenie

Well of course I would be calculating!

Yes but the way you were calculating looked evil - you went like "to vote or not to vote" on several people, and waited really long till you voted. Plus your vote was the one that saved Izzy.

Originally Posted by Green

What bothered me more was that she seemed to have decided beforehand that she suspects Fea and was therefore determined to find fur in Fea's every statement.

Exactly my thoughts here.

Originally Posted by Eomer

I'm thinking there is no way Aganzir says this unless Izzy is a wolf. No way. It points out Aganzir as a wolf.

Could you be so friendly as to explain your thought process because I don't get it?

[Nerwen]

Originally Posted by Feanor of the Peredhil

Good grief. Who needs a seer to notice the fact that Aganzir just admitted she's evil.

Fea, I believe you're right. I didn't even notice that!

...You know, that could be right up there with, "I've never been a wolf before..."

Izzy looks pretty bad too, though... she must have known she was misleading us yesterDay.