WWLXII: Dead Men Do Tell Tales

[Macalaure]

Almost known innocent:
Nerwen

Fairly good feeling:
Rikae
Boro

Not sure, but tend to trust:
Sally
Kath
Mith

Simply no idea:
Wilwa
Mirandir
Isabellkya
Eonwe

A bit doubtful about:
Inziladun (can't put my finger on it, but some vague bad feeling)
Shasta (might be conspirator)
Annu (see Inzy)
Gwath (can't put him anywhere, which makes me nervous in his case)
Nogrod (can't shake it off)

Suspicious:
Eomer (more confused about him than really suspicious, but I have no one better...)

++Eomer

I admit, though, that voting with Nogrod gives me a bit of a toothache...

[Gwathagor]

Originally Posted by Macalaure

Suspicious:
Eomer (more confused about him than really suspicious, but I have no one better...)

++Eomer

I admit, though, that voting with Nogrod gives me a bit of a toothache...

Care to explain? Where be all this suspicion of Eomer spewin' from? I've been feelin' stupid not knowin' why Eomer is supposed to be suspicious. What has he done, even?

[Inziladun]

Originally Posted by Gwathagor

Care to explain? Where be all this suspicion of Eomer spewin' from? I've been feelin' stupid not knowin' why Eomer is supposed to be suspicious. What has he done, even?

I'm not easy abou' him because 'o his two Mira votes w/ no explanation.

[Boromir88]

Originally Posted by Gwathagor

Care to explain? Where be all this suspicion of Eomer spewin' from? I've been feelin' stupid not knowin' why Eomer is supposed to be suspicious. What has he done, even?

He pops in, votes for Mira two days in a row and goes, I can see the suspicious reasons.

But, for me, I interpret it as Eomer being a bored ordinary. Usually with any type of special role (good or evil) Eomer is in the thick of the action...he's always confusing of course, and you always wonder what he's up to, but he's always right there, if you know what I mean.

[Boromir88]

I was thinkin' on votin' for Annu, but now you've made realize that lynchin' Mira would buy us another day, at any rate. And there is always the off-chance that she could be a mutineer or a co-conspirator.~Gwath

Hmm...I'm actually going to go and look at Annu, I admit to just scanning his posts so far and didn't realize he was also involved in the 'word twisting' earlier...

[Nerwen]

Originally Posted by wilwarin538

So I am inclined to believe Greenie, and therefore trust Nerwen (though she could still be a cobbler right?). But it could help us to kill her a second time cause then we'd either see she is the spy and have a known innocent in Nerwen, or see that she is a cobbler and get rid of a baddie who's oppinion can't sway us negatively any longer. But it may also be a good idea to keep that as an option for when we're more desperate for information.

Aye, I'd be leavin' it fer later, lass. Be different if she ha' an aggressor for us.

Originally Posted by Shastanis Althreduin

You speak for the rest of the crew now, do you? If I "slipped up" by asking a question, then please, by all means lynch me for showing curiosity.

No one's asked me, but I'll avoid Rikae and her attempt to distract me and say it anyway; while I don't at all advocate mass double-lynching, I think in this case, with Greenie claiming to be our Spy, it could be a good idea. If she is the Spy, she can't help us with her role any more, and either way we get information on Nerwen.

Shark Tooth be still a'carryin' on wi' his pecul'ar lay o' double-killin' th' powder-monkey. He be gettin' main agitated too.

So be th' Cabin Boy:

Originally Posted by Rikae

I wonder if th' whole 'isterical womin thing - th' "intense" n' "over-the-top" tone folks seem t' read into me posts would 'ave been there if I''d orig'nally signed up t' th' 'downs pretendin' I was a fella. Just sayin'.

Ease off a point! Who be accusin' of ye?

Originally Posted by Macalaure

Arrrr, ye be close to a known innocent at this point, so, if ye say so, I will let him be for now, although he literally begs for me vote.

Nay, ye'd best be makin' up yer own mind. I ha' no special knowledge o' yon gunner's role, remember. I were but sayin' that his confusion 'bout yer "confessin'" seemed to ha' nowt in't to me.

EDIT:X'd wi' a host.

[Gwathagor]

Well, I be votin' now. I'm awrful suspicious of Annu, but I'm gonna put it off until tomorrer, so:

++Mira

[Macalaure]

Originally Posted by Boro

Why so sure about Mira's role?

I'm not. As you can see from my list up there, I don't know about her at all. But she will most probably be modfired, so she will be dead anyway. Why waste the lynch opportunity?

[Boromir88]

I'm not. As you can see from my list up there, I don't know about her at all. But she will most probably be modfired, so she will be dead anyway. Why waste the lynch opportunity?~Mac

We're technically not wasting one though, we are just delaying the oppurtunity for a day. We're really just looking at the same thing from two different ways...either we take the oppurtunity today, lynch someone else and lose Mira (that amounts to a doube lynching) as well as all likely hood losing someone else at night from the wolf kill. Or we pass the oppurtunity, but gain it back by avoding losing 2 people in one day, and thus gain the oppurtunity back.

[Macalaure]

Nerwen -> Inzy
Mith -> Nogrod
Annu -> Shasta
Rikae -> Shasta (2)
Kath -> Annu
Eomer -> Mira
Shasta -> Rikae
Wilwa -> Eonwe
Rikae -- Shasta (1) -> Mira (2)
Nogrod -> Eomer
Mac -> Eomer (2)
Boro -> Mira (3)
Inzy -> Annu (2)
Gwath -> Mira (4)
Izzy -> Mac

Mira 4, Eomer, Annu 2, plenty o' 1's.

[Nerwen]

I were considerin' switchin' me vote to Shark Tooth Shasty, for I be not likin' the sound o' he toDay. But if ye be all set to vote fer som-un as is goin' to jump ship anyhow, 'tis no p'int me switchin'.

[Isabellkya]

Nerwen -> Zil
Mith -> Nog
Annu -> Shasta
Rikae -> Shasta 2
Kath -> Annu
Eomer -> Mira
Shata -> Rikae
Wilwa -> Eonwe
Rikae -- Shasta
-> Mira 2
Nog -> Eomer
Mac -> Eomer 2
Boro -> Mira 3
Zil -> Annu 2


Mira 3. Annu, Eomer, Shasta 2. Zil, Rikae, Nog 1.

[Isabellkya]

++ Mac

I've got to vote now.
He feels the foulest of the three, for previously stated reasons.

X'd with Gwath.

[Boromir88]

++Mira

I'm being ultra conservative on this ship, so sue me...voting for someone who's very doubtful to return, we avoid essentially what would be a double lynching if we chose someone else, which means we get an extra day. Also we won't have to spend another day thinking about should we lynch Mira, or let her go, also who's to say she's not a mutineer?

[Gwathagor]

Originally Posted by Boromir88

++Mira

I'm being ultra conservative on this ship, so sue me...voting for someone who's very doubtful to return, we avoid essentially what would be a double lynching if we chose someone else, which means we get an extra day. Also we won't have to spend another day thinking about should we lynch Mira, or let her go, also who's to say she's not a mutineer?

Well now, Boro matey.

I was thinkin' on votin' for Annu, but now you've made realize that lynchin' Mira would buy us another day, at any rate. And there is always the off-chance that she could be a mutineer or a co-conspirator.

[Inziladun]

Originally Posted by Rikae

Thanks, Gwath.

An' ever'body give some thought t' votin' Mira, like I said. An' Mac, I'd like t' know why ye be votin' fer Eomer, too.

Originally Posted by Gwathagor

Well now, Boro matey.

I was thinkin' on votin' for Annu, but now you've made realize that lynchin' Mira would buy us another day, at any rate. And there is always the off-chance that she could be a mutineer or a co-conspirator.

Sorry fer bein' a poor addled pilot, but I jus' don't see th' point 'a goin' fer Mira. What's she done, anyway? Buys us another day? 'N meanwhile th' baddies get another un' of us toNight.

[Inziladun]

Vote must be now.

++ Annu

[Isabellkya]

Right now I'm debating between Sally, Nog, and Mac.

Sally - For her voting of Shasta yesterDay after saying it wouldn't be a good idea.

Nog - Because it isn't his usual self. When ever I see him as his usual self, he is on the innocent side. So mostly feeling of his behaviour thus far.

Mac - Because his voting is... a bit whack, and looks like bandwagon votes. Voting alongside a seemginly top suspect of yours, even though it gives you a toothache?


X'd with Gwath.

[Boromir88]

Are you trying to find out how many people can be gotten rid of in one day Boro? *insert one eyebrow raise*~Izzy

hehe, just wonderin' if you would be joining us on the ship this stormy evening. (well it's been storm out on my part of the ship!)

Sorry fer bein' a poor addled pilot, but I jus' don't see th' point 'a goin' fer Mira. What's she done, anyway? Buys us another day? 'N meanwhile th' baddies get another un' of us toNight.~Inziladun

I don't know if you have been on a boat where double-lynches were allowed during the day. It's where two people can get lynched if they are tied in votes, and those mostly turn out bad, because wolves happen to love double lynches, they take out two people in one day, thus shortening the total days they need for victory.

Since we are already pretty much guaranteed to lose Mira, whether it be tonight, or tomorrow, if we chose someone else, that would virtually be like a double-lynching...am I wrong? Mira hasn't done anything wrong, her computer is just evil, but that doesn't change the fact that she can't be here and could be killed off anyway. And whether we decide to lynch Mira or someone else, the wolves will get a kill choice...which means we risk losing 3 people in one day, not good.

Maybe Mira is a wolf...maybe we chose someone else and he/she is a wolf. Who knows? But I would rather keep the death numbers down at this point, so we don't have a double-lynching (by double-lynching I mean losing Mira to mod-fire and lynching whoever else is decided) and thus getting an extra day.

[Gwathagor]

Originally Posted by Inziladun

Sorry fer bein' a poor addled pilot, but I jus' don't see th' point 'a goin' fer Mira. What's she done, anyway? Buys us another day? 'N meanwhile th' baddies get another un' of us toNight.

Seriously, matey, what be the odds that we're gonna get us a mutineer today? If Mira's going to be modfired anyway, then why risk lynchin' two innocents by votin' for Eomer or Annu or whoever? (Though I be ponderin' votin' for the latter meself.) That's the point.

[Macalaure]

I happen to be with Nogrod about Mira. We can only lynch mutineers if we try to. Lynching Mira will cost us one opportunity to do that.

I voted for Eomer because, looking at his two vote-posts, I have a hard time imagining him innocent. I do think he's more likely a conspirator than a mutineer, but if I have a choice between lynching a conspirator and shooting into the dark, I do the former.

Originally Posted by Boro

But, for me, I interpret it as Eomer being a bored ordinary.

I've heard that kind of reasoning before. Being an ordo isn't always fun. But if one is bored, then one can simply stir up the pot (I, for example, enjoy acting somewhat suspicious when ordinary and bored). Just making less than a handful of posts in two days means either that the person is up to no good or that the person has maybe played a game too much. No offense to anybody, seriously, but if you're not motivated to play if you're an ordo, then you shouldn't play - because chances are you will be one (about 55%, to be more precise ).

[Gwathagor]

Originally Posted by Macalaure

I happen to be with Nogrod about Mira. We can only lynch mutineers if we try to. Lynching Mira will cost us one opportunity to do that.

Aye, aye, that's true, thar be no denin' it. I reckon you be feelin' pretty confident about your vote, then?

[Boromir88]

I happen to be with Nogrod about Mira. We can only lynch mutineers if we try to. Lynching Mira will cost us one opportunity to do that.~Mira

Why so sure about Mira's role? She could be a mutineer just as like as she could be innocent. Just because someone's computer crashed doesn't mean she is all of a suddenly innocent.

[Rikae]

Originally Posted by Macalaure

I happen to be with Nogrod about Mira. We can only lynch mutineers if we try to. Lynching Mira will cost us one opportunity to do that.

Mac, you should know better. We'd still have the opportunity, and when we could better use it (sorry, too tired for attempting pirate speak).

If we lose 2 people today (or 3 today/tonight) instead of 1 (or 2), if we're lucky, we're getting rid of an aggressor, but if we're not - we're losing two innocents. We're already probably losing one (because an aggressor would be less likely to quit).

If we lose 2 innocents in a day, that's one less day until the aggressors can win - and our odds of lynching one of them get better later in the game. Think about it - it just doesn't make sense to have 2 deaths on Day 2, when we're basically clueless, and lose the possibility of a day n that we might need.

[Rikae]

Thanks, Gwath.

An' ever'body give some thought t' votin' Mira, like I said. An' Mac, I'd like t' know why ye be votin' fer Eomer, too.