WWLXII: Dead Men Do Tell Tales

[Inziladun]

Originally Posted by Rikae

I think this might be an opportune time to mention that if you lynch me, Sally dies too.

If you leave me for the aggressors toNight (and they decide to go for it) my pick will be Lommy.

A reveal, hmm? I wasn't aware the axe was that close to falling on you. How many actual votes (not mere suspicions) have you gotten today?

[Boromir88]

Originally Posted by Inziladun

A reveal, hmm? I wasn't aware the axe was that close to falling on you. How many actual votes (not mere suspicions) have you gotten today?

Well it is a close contest and she's already got 1. I'm not sure what you're trying to prove here. The hunter is actually usually more dangerous to the wolves known...it's a crew weapon they will want to stay away from. So, unless you're going to refute it, I really can't see why a mutineer would claim to be the hunter, even if one was in trouble. Because the real hunter would have him/her pegged. If Rikae was a mutineer, the ranger would have been a much better bluff.

[Boromir88]

Would a wolf Gwath not show up for a day? ...just asking

[Inziladun]

Originally Posted by Boromir88

Well it is a close contest and she's already got 1. I'm not sure what you're trying to prove here. The hunter is actually usually more dangerous to the wolves known...it's a crew weapon they will want to stay away from. So, unless you're going to refute it, I really can't see why a mutineer would claim to be the hunter, even if one was in trouble. Because the real hunter would have him/her pegged. If Rikae was a mutineer, the ranger would have been a much better bluff.

I wasn't trying to 'prove' anything. Don't others have more votes at this point? And with several hours to go before DL, does this not seem premature?

[Rikae]

I believe you, Inzil, said you were considering voting for me, along with Lommy, and Nerwen did so. Since we have some among us who might like to take the easy route of following the the "known innocent"...

I thought it might be more useful to lay my cards on the table. Now we'll see who would prefer Sally dead, and who would prefer Lommy.

As for questioning me, relax - mine is the one role you'll have confirmed with one lynch or kill (although if I'm killed and the one I take with me claims to be hunter, you won't know which it is - but then it's kind of moot, you'll know one's hunter and one's evil).

EDIT: X'd with Lommy and Boro

[Thinlómien]

Originally Posted by Boro

Would a wolf Gwath not show up for a day? ...just asking

I would not bet my money I'm right, but I think he's done that before.


edit: xed with Zil again

[Inziladun]

Originally Posted by Rikae

I believe you, Inzil, said you were considering voting for me, along with Lommy, and Nerwen did so. Since we have some among us who might like to take the easy route of following the the "known innocent"...

I thought it might be more useful to lay my cards on the table. Now we'll see who would prefer Sally dead, and who would prefer Lommy.

So people voicing mere suspicions of you hours before DL leads you to this?

Originally Posted by satansaloser2005

Best be careful who you be lynching toDay, folks. I'd hate to have the village lose their protector so soon in the voyage as well. I just be sayin'.

And how many actual votes to this point have you had today?
Does no one else find this odd?

[satansaloser2005]

Dun, I didn't say me specifically. I just said to be careful in general.


Sorry, but I'm really out now. Back when I can be, I swears.

[Boromir88]

Originally Posted by Inziladun

And how many actual votes to this point have you had today?
Does no one else find this odd?

Sally's move is odd, but Rikae's isn't.

[Rikae]

Originally Posted by Inziladun

So people voicing mere suspicions of you hours before DL leads you to this?

So what's your point? That I'm a wolf? A cobbler? Fine, put your vote where your mouth is, if you don't mind taking the chance Sally dies too (and I can't change my pick until DL, anyway).

[Rikae]

Anybody else find what Inzil's doing here rather fishy, by the way?

[Boromir88]

Originally Posted by Rikae

Anybody else find what Inzil's doing here rather fishy, by the way?

I'll get back to you, I'm still thinking about it.

His reaction to your reveal was suspicious, because usually I would expect an ordo to be skeptical but still willing to believe it until there was a reason not to. But his reaction was more of an automatic "I don't believe you" and saying you were being hasty and not in any real trouble.

But then again, the reason I asked you Inziladun, if you were trying to prove something, was not to be snarky, but to simply ask what are you hoping to gain from doubting Rikae's claim so fast?

[Inziladun]

Originally Posted by Rikae

So what's your point? That I'm a wolf? A cobbler? Fine, put your vote where your mouth is, if you don't mind taking the chance Sally dies too (and I can't change my pick until DL, anyway).

You've got it. You have one vote at this point, by my count (now two).

++ Rikae

Lynch me if you will. It'll do no good to the loyal crew.

[Isabellkya]

I'm beginning to think Nerwen is quite furry underneath her Pirate get-up.
I've seen her before when she was a confirmed innocent. She corroborated that Greenie was telling the truth in that she was an innocent. So if you believe Greenie's claim of Seership, then you believe that Nerwen is an innocent. Yet she is hardly acting so innocent. Voting with not much reason? Voting with what seems to be the flow at the time?

Zil, would that be an indirect claim of Wolfship? Last game you "knew" I was innocent because you were furry.

Sally. My biggest grievance with her, is that she found Shasta "funny" on the first day, yet said it wasn't worth while to follow a hunch with a lynch. Yet voted him aways. Then returns toDay and votes him again, without any more reason. Or explanation for her previous actions.

I can understand Rikae's position. I'm fifty-fifty on whether or not to believe it.
Sally on the other hand... I think it hogwash.

Zil questioning reveal(s), and not so adamant to believe them? Erm, he did it when he was furry.

X'd with zil and Boro.

[Boromir88]

I can understand Rikae's position. I'm fifty-fifty on whether or not to believe it.
Sally on the other hand... I think it hogwash.~Izzy

I'm not saying to not be skeptical, I still think maybe she's a co-conspirator, but she's not a mutineer. A mutineer who makes a hunter claim is a dead one, because the real hunter will know, and a mutineer doesn't have a death warrant. Which is why I told Inziladun, if she was a mutineer she would make a Ranger claim...simply because a ranger can't kill you.

However, I think the bigger question is, why have a knee-jerk that's a "fake claim" reaction. Someone says they are the hunter, and this is the person who will die, you shouldn't automatically react with "that's false," unless that person was the real hunter, or the real hunter did refute it.

[Rikae]

I find it a bit odd that Izzy is suspecting Nerwen at this juncture. I mean, sure, she could be evil, but there's good reason to focus on others now, as far as I can see - also, the way she's sort of on the fence about me looks baddie-ish. Seems more like a cobbler's diversionary tactics than anything else, though.

Boro, go ahead, why not - assuming it doesn't put the ranger at risk.

[Gwathagor]

Originally Posted by Rikae

So what's your point? That I'm a wolf? A cobbler? Fine, put your vote where your mouth is, if you don't mind taking the chance Sally dies too (and I can't change my pick until DL, anyway).

Well now, Rikae, if you be tryin' to hold Sally's death over our heads, then why be you votin' for her? You apparrrently find her suspicious enough to have to walk that tharrr plank.

[Gwathagor]

No answer now? Doesn't matter. I probably wouldn't be believin' ye now if ye did answer me.

[Macalaure]

Gwath, while I agree that the other people voting for you may not have the best reasons, I'm afraid I still suspect you more than the rest o' the crew.

Originally Posted by Inzy

what would the reason be for broadcasting her current pick, as well as who she's considering for the next Night?

What she says about her picks might or might not coincide with the truth.

[satansaloser2005]

*blinks sleepily*

What be that, then? A wench tries to send her headache to the depths and she misses everything. What's going on?

(Hey, I'm not going out tonight but I'm feeling completely rubbish. I'll be back to say what I can later, but for now I don't feel up to reading stuffs.)

Best be careful who you be lynching toDay, folks. I'd hate to have the village lose their protector so soon in the voyage as well. I just be sayin'.


(I'll be back later if I can. I'll probably retract, and note that I did say my vote was a placeholder in case I couldn't come back. I still suspect Shasta, but after skimming through the thread I'm pretty sure I won't be up for killing him toDay, in favor of going after someone else.)