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Rikae · 06-18-2009, 06:18 PM

Anybody else find what Inzil's doing here rather fishy, by the way?

Boromir88 · 06-18-2009, 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Rikae

Anybody else find what Inzil's doing here rather fishy, by the way?

I'll get back to you, I'm still thinking about it.

His reaction to your reveal was suspicious, because usually I would expect an ordo to be skeptical but still willing to believe it until there was a reason not to. But his reaction was more of an automatic "I don't believe you" and saying you were being hasty and not in any real trouble.

But then again, the reason I asked you Inziladun, if you were trying to prove something, was not to be snarky, but to simply ask what are you hoping to gain from doubting Rikae's claim so fast?

Inziladun · 06-18-2009, 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Boromir88

But then again, the reason I asked you Inziladun, if you were trying to prove something, was not to be snarky, but to simply ask what are you hoping to gain from doubting Rikae's claim so fast?

If her neck had actually been in the noose, maybe I could understand the reveal.
By my count, she was not even in the lead for votes!

Isabellkya · 06-18-2009, 06:37 PM

Zil.
If you have numerous people voicing that they may vote for you, and DL is approaching. And some have already voiced they wont be back, and have placed their vote. In a game where someone can be lynched with as little as four, maybe even three votes.. or even two for that matter. One as well, if everyone else abstains. The difference between one already made vote, and the discussion of possible.. two, maybe three more. Equals four. At the time, four total would've put her at the lead. I'd have to look back, but if tied.. first person with the tying number gets the noose?

X'd with Boro.

Inziladun · 06-18-2009, 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Isabellkya

Zil.
If you have numerous people voicing that they may vote for you, and DL is approaching. And some have already voiced they wont be back, and have placed their vote. In a game where someone can be lynched with as little as four, maybe even three votes.. or even two for that matter. One as well, if everyone else abstains. The difference between one already made vote, and the discussion of possible.. two, maybe three more. Equals four. At the time, four total would've put her at the lead. I'd have to look back, but if tied.. first person with the tying number gets the noose?

X'd with Boro.

It still seems way premature to me. For what it's worth, I was leaning toward Annu again.
Boro may be right in that she's only a cobbler. Whether that's enough to make me retract is up in the air.

Isabellkya · 06-18-2009, 06:43 PM

You also have to take into consideration who is making the reveal/claim, Boro. Are they one bold enough to fake claim? To not?

I agree about the Hunter aspect. However, can't it be a multi-bluff? "Ooh, a wolf would never claim as Hunter because of such and such reason". Yeah they would be dead, only if the wolves killed the Hunter while the Hunter was hunting the outed wolf via fake claim. Would it then be wise for the hunter to out themselves, to reveal an outed wolf. Well then the Wolves would not kill the Hunter. They would leave them alone, thus rending them pretty useless. Unless I suppose they thought the hunter was not hunting one of them - which is a stretch in probability.

X'd with Zil.

Isabellkya · 06-18-2009, 06:46 PM

If she is a Cobbler, then why not just stay silent; to insure a mis-lynch?

The same could go. If a wolf won't fake claim as Hunter. Why would a Cobbler do so? To try and oust the real Hunter?

Boromir88 · 06-18-2009, 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Isabellkya

You also have to take into consideration who is making the reveal/claim, Boro. Are they one bold enough to fake claim? To not?

I agree about the Hunter aspect. However, can't it be a multi-bluff? "Ooh, a wolf would never claim as Hunter because of such and such reason". Yeah they would be dead, only if the wolves killed the Hunter while the Hunter was hunting the outed wolf via fake claim. Would it then be wise for the hunter to out themselves, to reveal an outed wolf. Well then the Wolves would not kill the Hunter. They would leave them alone, thus rending them pretty useless. Unless I suppose they thought the hunter was not hunting one of them - which is a stretch in probability.

X'd with Zil.

That's probably true, but usually I don't put that much thought into bluffs and others bluffing...but yes.

For what it's worth...Rikae, I thought you were the ranger based on a post and something else, and if it's ok I can point out why I thought that?

So, if anyone's wondering that's why I believed it fairly quickly.

Edit: Oh, and to totally confirm my thoughts you can say who you hunted on the previous day, but I'm not going to require that unless you want to.

06-18-2009, 06:37 PM	#4
Isabellkya Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Amongst trees. Posts: 919	Zil. If you have numerous people voicing that they may vote for you, and DL is approaching. And some have already voiced they wont be back, and have placed their vote. In a game where someone can be lynched with as little as four, maybe even three votes.. or even two for that matter. One as well, if everyone else abstains. The difference between one already made vote, and the discussion of possible.. two, maybe three more. Equals four. At the time, four total would've put her at the lead. I'd have to look back, but if tied.. first person with the tying number gets the noose? X'd with Boro. __________________ But I was clinging to her like a homicidal monkey.

06-18-2009, 06:43 PM	#6
Isabellkya Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Amongst trees. Posts: 919	You also have to take into consideration who is making the reveal/claim, Boro. Are they one bold enough to fake claim? To not? I agree about the Hunter aspect. However, can't it be a multi-bluff? "Ooh, a wolf would never claim as Hunter because of such and such reason". Yeah they would be dead, only if the wolves killed the Hunter while the Hunter was hunting the outed wolf via fake claim. Would it then be wise for the hunter to out themselves, to reveal an outed wolf. Well then the Wolves would not kill the Hunter. They would leave them alone, thus rending them pretty useless. Unless I suppose they thought the hunter was not hunting one of them - which is a stretch in probability. X'd with Zil. __________________ But I was clinging to her like a homicidal monkey.

06-18-2009, 06:46 PM	#7
Isabellkya Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Amongst trees. Posts: 919	If she is a Cobbler, then why not just stay silent; to insure a mis-lynch? The same could go. If a wolf won't fake claim as Hunter. Why would a Cobbler do so? To try and oust the real Hunter? __________________ But I was clinging to her like a homicidal monkey.

06-18-2009, 06:18 PM	#1
Rikae Mellifluous Maia Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: A glade open to the stars, deep in Nan Elmoth Posts: 3,489	Anybody else find what Inzil's doing here rather fishy, by the way?