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Old 08-07-2009, 07:41 AM   #1
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My conclusion, is that, were last Night's kill to be a revenge, it would point to either Hakon or Brinn. But that would be too obvious, both of them are smarter than to do something that blatantly points to them.
It won't be revenge; however, he might have been killed as a suspected Seer– that's one of the standard reasons wolves kill people.
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Old 08-07-2009, 07:45 AM   #2
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It won't be revenge; however, he might have been killed as a suspected Seer– that's one of the standard reasons wolves kill people.
In which case his last posts point to Brinn.

But here's the problem with this: the last wolf doesn't usually want to kill a seer that has pointed them out as evil, because then that wolf has to contend with a village hell bent on lynching them on the posthumous orders of the dead!Seer.

So if the wolf killed Form on suspected Seer business, my hunch would be that Brinn is the Snitch and the wolf wanted to nail the Seer prior to being dreamed of.

This is a hunch, though. I'm not at all certain.
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Old 08-07-2009, 08:24 AM   #3
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I still wonder about the wilwa-kill. Since Boro pulled two tricks to flush out gifteds, the librarians are very aware how dangerous those are. But why did they think wilwa could be gifted? Maybe they're applying more than one strategy at a time...
I posted everything Wilwa said on Day One, which is to say, approximately nothing. No hints that I could see.

It is odd, now that we know Boro was one of the pack– you'd think he'd make gifted-killing a priority.

Or was the plan to do something as uncharacteristic as possible? Makes me wonder if all the wolves are/were old hands. (Or paws.)

I agree that Brinn's and Boro's posts near DL look as if she's the snitch and as if he had guessed her identity. It could be, though, that she's a wolf playing cobbler.

EDIT: X'd since my last post.
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Old 08-07-2009, 08:30 AM   #4
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Looks like there's a consensus that Hakon and Brinn are most suspicious. Now all we have to do is wait for the living lover to reveal their roles?

edit: wait, did the lover already submit her(?) choices or is yet to?
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If one of them is killed by a wolf then they get a revenge kill but it has to be used the next Day. The lone lover may also give this up to learn the role of two of their fellow players as well.
Ambiguous.

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Old 08-07-2009, 09:11 AM   #5
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In which case his last posts point to Brinn.

But here's the problem with this: the last wolf doesn't usually want to kill a seer that has pointed them out as evil, because then that wolf has to contend with a village hell bent on lynching them on the posthumous orders of the dead!Seer.
But what Form said was:

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since I do incline to think Brinn is a wolf
If Brinn is the guilty party she might have thought she had some chance of talking her way out of it... better anyway than face a definite accusation toDay from the supposed Seer.

This is speculation, though. He could have been killed to frame her. (Which would suggest you're not a wolf, Fea, since you're not taking the opportunity to push Brinn's guilt.)

You might still be the snitch, though. This sounds rather snitch-ish (if that's a word)–

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I have a hunch who the Evil Two are, but it's purely a hunch, so I don't want to say it and end up with people jumping down my throat for blithe commentary like Nerwen did yesterDay.

Or just ordo-Fea attention-seeking. As usual.
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Old 08-07-2009, 09:15 AM   #6
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So, apparently we have two scenarios. Form was killed to frame an innocent!Brinn, and those suspecting her are more likely to be guilty.

Then, we have the reverse side of that spectrum, where she really is. The biggest question is, what evidence points to which?


Or is there an arguable case against anyone else?
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Old 08-07-2009, 10:02 AM   #7
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Ok. I just went through all the posts and I believe Mac is innocent. He flushed out Boro.
Form kept on putting the spotlight in Brinn and now he's dead. Not sure that really looks good for Brinn. I'm leaning towards Brinn being either a wolf or the Snitch.
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Old 08-07-2009, 10:05 AM   #8
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If the last Lover were to reveal themselves, what's to guarantee they won't be night-killed? Granted, the Ranger could protect them for as long as they could, but still...

I'd rather someone give their analysis, like Mac did, than to outrightly reveal themselves.

That's all I have to say for right now, as I'm off to work and won't be back till around 6:30 PST to post. Make sure I've got some interesting postage to read when I get home!
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Old 08-07-2009, 10:36 AM   #9
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Or is there an arguable case against anyone else?
What, you missed the Hakon-talk?

...I'm wondering about the Hakon business: if he and Boro were packmates, you'd think Boro would have simply waited until Night so he could ask him via pm. That's not certain, though: Boro might have just got excited.

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If the last Lover were to reveal themselves, what's to guarantee they won't be night-killed. Granted, the Ranger could protect them for as long as they could, but still...
Even if the Lover hasn't picked a wolf, a couple of known innocents, or innocent + snitch would be useful... but the problem is that if the Ranger protects the revealed Lover, he can't protect anyone else, and the wolf will know this.
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Old 08-07-2009, 10:36 AM   #10
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Huh, but once the lover revealed the roles or got their kill, wouldn't they be about the same as an ordo?
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Old 08-07-2009, 01:57 PM   #11
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Ambiguous.

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To clarify, Form's lover gave up the revenge kill in exchange for learning the roles of two players. There is no revenge kill happening.

And Sally also answered it, thanks Sally!
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Old 08-07-2009, 02:04 PM   #12
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They had discussed this possibility. They knew it was a risk. They had always thought it would be her to die first, though. She didn’t know if she could continue on without him.

Emotions in Nienna were running strong. She knew that at this very moment she probably had enough rage in her kill. He wouldn’t want that. He wouldn’t want the violence of his death to be repeated by her. She understood this and composed herself. Though she wasn’t going to kill she knew that she could not let her Formy die in vain.

All her years of schooling have taught Nienna something… how to Google.

google.com

… a blinking curser …

Autume98 enter. 137 results in .23 seconds.

Nienna looks down the page, frantically searching for some sign of were-librarian-ness.

A bunch of online forums and fan fiction links… but nothing that could even remotely be described as wolvery.

One innocent down. Now Nienna knows that she has only time for one more search. She had better make this one good.

google.com

… a blinking curser …

Nessa Telrunya enter. 3,920 results in .12 seconds… interesting.

Nienna’s heart is racing, she can feel the tension in her body as she looks down the page.

A few links down the page she notices a resume posted on Monster. Nessa must be looking for a job. Nienna reads through it and under employment history she notices the Barrow Downs High School. She keeps reading… employed as a …

Nienna jumps up and races to where everyone is congregated. Out of breath she looks around the room and points.

Nessa… is … the last … LIBRARIAN!”
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Old 08-07-2009, 02:13 PM   #13
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Old 08-07-2009, 03:03 PM   #14
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Nienna, for all we know you could be the final wolf posing as the lover. It would be a pretty stupid move but you can easily convince that Nessa is the lover and then we vote her. It removes the final lover from actually revealing what they found out. It could work out.
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