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Boro's the only person I trust in this village. Can you hold your vote in reserve in case there's some voting shinenigans near the end?
(Sorry for the floodposting, only got the net back a few minutes ago after losing it for more than a DAY. ![]()
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Dah, nah, nah, nah, nah...Swineman! Swineman! Oh you have to love the late nighters. ![]()
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Inziladun Guard-voted for you three hours before DAY 1 ended. A Werewolf would not take unnecessary risk in having a fellow Night Guarded.
Nienna I thought was an innocent who's making sure nobody stays hidden, making cases against other villagers and such, but after yesterDAY she might just be spreading suspicion evenly throughout the village, helping the Werewolves hide in the general aura of suspicion. Brinniel's posts are too clean, so little to read there. My only points against her are Inziladun's DAY 3 vote and yesterDAY's bandwaggon, but they are, I believe, strong enough points for me not to trust her. Sally's always been hard to read for me, as she seems to be able to sustain whatever insanity I use up in DAY 1. For that reason I've always been getting evil vibes from her, almost always wrongly. But again, after yesterDAY's bandwaggon, and now her early vote . . . My major points against McCaber are his DAY 2 change of attitude towards Legate and his general hiddenness. I have this creepy feeling that most of our Werewolves are submarines. I have the same feeling of uneasiness with Greenie, even though I have no other points of suspicion against her. Pitchwife is a clueless innocent or a very bold Werewolf. I'm inclined to think the former, but there's enough doubt that I do not trust him to cast the possible saving vote for the village. I think that's all of them? I may have issues with some of your posting, Boro (happily no major ones), but the fact is that Inziladun vote convinced me enough in your innocence. Is that good enough?
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I just went through Inzil's posts again, wow has he left absolutely nothing. Anyone he rarely defended anyone, and most people who he did interact with are dead.
The live ones then that Inzil had some kind of interaction with. Nienna in #235 and #239, looks a little odd, he basically bluntly calls her a wolf and jokes that she will kill him during the night. In #406 he says that Nilp has a cunning mind and he responds to Pitch In #412 he says he almost wanted to vote for Nilp, but decides to vote Brinn and guard Pitch. Inzil's track record on Day 1 and 2 were to vote for innocents (Kitanna and Legate) and guard innocents (me and Nogrod)...I'm innocent at this point you'll have to believe me or not. Unknowns are on Day 3 vote for Brinn and guard Pitch. Inzil has had to of interacted with one wolf, if not multiple ones, but the problem is he played very tight to the vest and limitted the number of people he mentioned. Another interesting thing to note about Inzil's behavior, is after my suspicions of him on Day 1, he comes back and jokes around if I've had anything to do with Mnemo's death. After Nienna and Nilp go after him, he turns into a jokester again towards them. So, that makes Nienna and Nilp look pretty innocent to me. Usually, I take a joking towards other players as a suspicious sign, but it should really depend upon the players (evidence sally and my performance in Lari's game, which was an utter disaster). However, I think Inzil's reactions to Nienna's suspicions make Nienna look innocent: Quote:
From the unknowns that Inzil interacted with, from most suspicious to least: Pitch Brinn Nilp Nienna I will get to what all the living players said about Inzil sometime after work.
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Words. I'm more of a numbers guy, though.
![]() So my thoughts in summary: Will not vote for: Boro Pitchwife Green Might not vote for, but keeping an eye on: Brinniel Nienna Wil most likely vote for: McCaber Sally What do we do with the Guard vote, btw? In case we get a Werewolf today do we risk keeping the Ranger from doing xyr NIGHT work? (I'm inclined not to vote Guard toDAY, but am willing to listen to someone else's plan.)
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Oh and that leave the living ones who Inzil had no interaction with at all (or nothing major that struck my attention)
sally McCaber Greenie I said a while ago about how out of all the Legate and Nogrod guard votes the only repeat was wilwa, which made me think that the wolves were playing really spread apart from eachother, not trying to leave any connections. So, the 3 listed here also look mighty suspicious, just based on Inzil not mentioning them. We'll see about their posts too. Nienna and Nilp, since I feel good about you right now, mind if we split up sally's votes? There is no way I'm going to be able to get through all of them I don't care how much free time I have tomorrow.
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Whoa. YesterDay really took me by surprise. When I went to bed two hours before DL the situation was McCaber with two votes and Pitch and Sally with one, and people were talking about how suspicious Pitch was. When I went to check the thread I expected to find McCaber or Pitchwife lynched. I was stunned to see it was Wilwa - I don't think she was even considered an option two hours before DL! That was some serious bit of last-minute bandwaggoning, I'd say.
Actually, I wonder if the wolves orchestrated that. If so, why? If those in danger of getting lynched (McCaber, Pitchwife, Sally to some extent) were all innocent, why bother? Therefore, if the bandwagon was manipulated by a wolf, it would make sense that one of the potential lynchees was one too.
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This is why we must spread our votes as little as possible toDAY. We do not want giving the Werewolves the chance to use their numbers again.
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Another thing that just popped into my mind, just wondering if it's too crazy to be true. If a wolf saw that his fellow is in danger of getting lynched, why wouldn't he just make a bandwagon against someone who had already received votes? What I'm saying is, what if both Pitchwife and McCaber are wolves and that is why the third wolf decided to start a bandwagon against Wilwa instead? *off to check that bandwagon for candidates for the third wolf in my theory*
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Might McCaber have been wilwa's Hunter target yesterDAY?
http://forum.barrowdowns.com/showpos...&postcount=576 Aside from the obvious (she thought he's a Wolf, so she voted for him), notice the arrow sign. She usually uses the Silmaril sign in her posts (when she's not beginning with a quote). Grasping at straws much? If we lynch an innocent toDAY, it's game over. I have to be sure that the recipient of my vote is a Werewolf.
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Hey, I'm here but I can't stay. Got suddenly handed an assignment at work so I'll be out most of the Day. When I get back I'll try to catch up really quick but I can't promise much. Sorry again.
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Sally:
69: Doesn’t think Mnemo is evil for The Plan but thinks it is cheap or too easy 77: Wants to catch ww the ‘old fashioned way’ but wouldn’t think poorly on The Plan later in the game 96: Up for guarding those who look suspicious 101: Guards Mnemo for being innovative and wanting to have someone on her team who has a different point of view 115: Doesn’t like Kit’s guard vote for Hakon… thinks that if she is innocent then it isn’t the best strategy, gives lots of possiblities 117: Responds to McCaber saying we should be too hasty to lynch someone who was NG if there was only one kill. She thinks that in certain circumstances it would be worth the risk to kill off the NGed if there was only one kill 123: More about protecting those we trust or those who are suspicious 133: Mentions that if we guard someone and there are 2 kills then we know that person is an innocent 172: Votes to lynch Kit at the very last moment 177: Thinks that Legate is probably a wolf because it seems unlikely that the wolves would give up a kill 266: Defends her Kit vote, still doesn’t think that the wolves would give up a kill in order to frame Legate, gets bad vibes from Wilwa 277: Defends her vote some more Bunch of back and forth between Sally and Legate 339: Mentions the weird parroting thing between Hakon, McCaber, and Zil, votes to lynch Legate and guard me. 423: Random mention of Fish…. 448: Guard vote for Shasta at the end of the day but no lynch vote... interesting… the day we lynched a wolf… 494: Defends her vote for Shasta and kicks herself for tying things up further (aka the 3 person tie) 518: Analysis of McCaber – finds him a top suspect 537: Analysis of Hakon – finds him evil 541: Hesitant in joining a bandwagon 557: Would rather see Hakon dead than Wilwa so lynch votes Hakon 609: Defends her vote to Brinn 613: Considering a Wilwa lynch 629: Late vote to lynch Wilwa and guard Nog 635: Very early lynch vote for McCaber Sally: you confuse me. I’ve spent a good portion of the game thinking that you are innocent but now I’m second guessing myself. This is not good… I think that it is safe to leave you alive another day… I hope. What is most bothering is your early vote… bah.
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Oh thought I should mention that those aren't all of Sally's posts. I went through quickly and pulled the one's I thought important. Someone else might want to go through them as well.
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Yeah, I really am sorry about that. I knew I'd be busy around DL and didn't want to forget (or not be able to vote, the way my internet's been acting lately) so I didn't have much choice. And now it looks like I won't be around most of the day anyway.
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Greenie and Brinn will follow after lunch and a trip to the store.
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Well, in the one game that I absolutely should not be lynched, look what happened. I guess now is as good a time as any. I am the ranger. I know, I've been doing a terrible job as far as the guarding goes. Here's a list of the people I tried to save:
Boro Little Green Nilp Nogrod Brinn Nerwen was my second choice the night she was killed, and I spent quite a while thinking about that one. And then when Nog bit it the day after, it wasn't a good thing at all. The night that the sun rose early, I guarded Nilp. Just on the off chance that it actually was a save and not something like the wolves not sending in a kill or one of those other special abilities. I led off with Boro, because he's always a target, and the quicker I can figure him out the easier game I would have had. Greenie was more or less a random pick, and Nilp and Nog were because the wolves had been targeting people who were making solid contributions and throwing things around. Brinn I chose because I knew the wolves probably were going to kill Nog, so I wanted my next night to be open for someone I thought to be innocent. Not that I'm throwing any heavy suspicion her way, I just thought there are at least two people here I see as more innocent than her. I do realize I have one vote already, so I'm taking a very large risk here. Talia jacta est.
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Present and catching up.
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Talking about those secret roles again, I'm wondering whether we're ever going to find out about them. Has anybody else noticed Nog's armour and sword in last Night's narration?
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Brinn looks pretty good, I really like #530, she has a large list of suspects. Maybe she was just throwing anything out to see what sticks, but, small, focused on the minimum number of people is very suspicious, and that has not been Brinn.
Plus her defense against sally, because of her wilwa vote looks innocent. She was suspicious on Inzil for most of Day 2 and Day 3 and votes for him on Day 3. I can't fault her for her logic on wanting to lynch Legate, because the same thing was virtually in my mind...I would have smothered myself if we had a wolf-Legate from a guard vote and just let him get a free pass. Sorry I'm getting terribly sloppy and quick in my comments. Edit: crossed with a bunches, might as well take a blind shot at someone ![]()
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Nilp, why won't you consider to vote for Pitch or Greenie?
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Trying to find patterns... I deleted everyone's votes who is no longer alive (except the last day I kept Nog's in because he was important)
DAY ONE: Lynch: Nilp-->Nilp Brinn-->Cabbie Boro-->Kit (2) Greenie-->Nog Cabbie-->Wilwa (2) Pitchie-->Kit (4) Nienna-->Dun Sally-->Kit (6) Guard: Brinn-->Legate Sally-->Mnemo Boro-->Nienna Greenie-->Nienna (2) Nienna-->Mnemo (2) Pitchie-->Boro (4) DAY TWO Lynch Nilp-->Dun Boro-->Legate (2) Greenie-->Legate (4) Nienna-->Legate (5) Brinn-->Legate (7) Pitch-->Legate (8) Cabbie-->Dun (3) Sally-->Legate (12) Guard Nilp-->Wilwa Boro-->Nerwen Greenie-->Nog Nienna-->Nerwen (2) Brinn-->Shasta Pitch-->Nog (2) Cabbie-->Noggie (3) Sally-->Nienna DAY THREE Lynch: Nilp-->Dun Nienna-->Dun (3) Brinn-->Dun (5) Greenie-->Sally Pitchie-->Boro Guard: Nilp-->Boro Nienna-->Shasta Brinn-->Nerwen (3) Greenie-->Pitchie (3) Pitchie-->Shasta (2) Sally-->Shasta (3) Day Four Lynch: Greenie-->Hakon (2) Boro-->Wilwa Brinn-->Wilwa (3) Nienna-->Hakon (3) Sally--> Hakon (5) Pitchwife--> McCaber Guard: Greenie-->Boro Sally-->Nienna (2) Nienna-->Sally Pitchwife--> Nerwen Brinn--> Nog Day Five: Lynch: Nilp--> McCaber (2) McCaber--> Pitchwife Greenie--> Sally Boro--> Pitchwife (2) Brinn--> Wilwa Nienna--> Wilwa (2) Nog--> Wilwa (3) Sally--> Wilwa (didn’t count) Guard: Nilp--> Boro McCaber--> Nilp Greenie--> Nienna --Greenie-- Nienna Greenie --> Wilwa Boro--> Nog Brinn--> Boro (2) Nienna--> Nog (2) Nog--> Boro (3) Sally--> Nog (didn’t count)
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Deadline. Stop posting.
Sally has been lynched. McCaber has been guarded.
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Day 6
The villagers frantically tried to work out who was evil among them, but the accusations kept on hurtling backwards and forwards. The fear of making a mistake was heavy upon their hearts, and the air was thick with tension.
Everything passed slowly for the villagers, in a haze, as they made the decision that would decide the fate of the village. The votes were being cast throughout the day, and it was accepted that it would be Greenie who would be killed that day. But just before the sun started to get orange, before the evening drew in, McCaber, Brinniel and Pitchwife suddenly introduced a new candidate, in the form of Sally. Boromir tried to turn it back to Greenie, but all he achieved was a draw. Eönwë left for a few moments to bring from his house the Six Sticks of Decision, which had decided the fate of who would be guarded three days ago. Now they would have a much more important purpose. They would decide who would be killed. Eönwë brought them forwards, in front of the crowd, and raised his hand- "Stop!" came a shout suddenly from the crowd. It was Greenie. "I haven't taken my vote yet." People looked at her in realisation. "And I choose Sally to be the next one to be killed." Sally looked across at her in terror. Eönwë looked at the crowd. "I have not yet cast the Sticks, and since you have as much right to a vote as any other member of this beautiful village, I am forced to count your vote. Therefore, Sally will be the one to face death by the sword." "But... but... but... I'm innocent!" she protested. "That's what they all say!" retorted Greenie, happier than ever. And so Eönwë led the way out of the town. There was a square area of barren land. Eönwë stopped. "Here will do." Sally was forced to kneel, with her head leaning forwards. Brinniel took a large sword and stood above her. Brinniel raised the sword above her head, and then swung it down, cleanly decapitating Sally's head. The villagers waited expectantly, willing the head or the body to transform. Sally stayed completely Sally. She was just an ordinary villager, caught up in affaird beyond her control. "Then," said Eönwë, "we have no hope left. The Night Guard will move for no-one. The wolves will kill us all tonight. Lock your homes, board up your windows and hope that the wolves will ignore your existence." As he uttered these words, all light faded, and the village was filled with the darkness of the night. Living: A Little Green- the village butcher Boromir88- the village pig farmer Brinniel- the village witch McCaber- chief (only) miner, head of miners' guild Nienna- the village potter Nilpaurion Felagund- the village fool Pitchwife- the village mason The Dead Kitanna- the village hermit - Seer Mnemosyne- the village coquette - Innocent Legate of Amon Lanc- the village broker - Innocent Thinlómien- the village chief gardener - Innocent Inziladun- the village brewer - Wolf alonariel- the village blacksmith - Innocent (modfired) Hakon- the village innkeeper - Innocent Shastanis Althreduin- the village apothecary - Innocent (modfired) Nerwen- a wandering minstrel - Innocent wilwarin538- the village barmaid - Hunter Nessa Telrunya- the village seamstress - Innocent (modfired) Nogrod- the retired bourgeois - Innocent satansaloser2005- The village librarian (Mistress of the books) - Innocent
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Night 7
And then, chaos erupted. People started screaming, running to their homes or trying to run away into the wilderness. Fear of the wolves spread like the Black Breath.
Realising that with their kill that night, they would equal the villagers' numbers, they forgot about pretence that night, and transformed in full view of the villagers. Nilpaurion, Brinniel and Greenie stood together, and in the shadows of the night, they transformed. They let out howls of anguish, and finally finished in the forms of terrible power and cunning. "Still hurt?" asked Niplaurion. Greenie nodded. "Always does," said Brinniel. They decided on killing the remaining villagers one by one, in alphabetical order. Each villager, running away from the source of the trouble, hear a snarl behind them, only to turn around and stare death in the face, before succumbing to it. And soon, other than the wolves, all were dead apart from McCaber and the mayor. And so they went to the Guarded house of McCaber. The guards went up to the doors. "Who eez it?" asked one of the guards. "We are the wolves. I think you'll remember us from six nights ago." "Um.. no." The wolf, most likely Nilp, looked sidelong at his fellows. "Anyway, we are looking for the ranger. Would you like to join us?" "No, we've already got one, you see?" said the guard "Are you sure?" asked the wolf. "Yes, he's very nice," said the guard. "Can we see him?" "Of course not! You are wolvish types." "Well, what are you then?" "We're Guards of course. Why else would we be wearing this outrageous costume?" "Good point," said a wolf, who seemed to resemble Greenie. "Shh!" The wolf who was doing the speaking looked meaningfully at the one who had just spoken. "Now show us the ranger or we will have to get in by force!" "You don't frighten us, Wolvish pig-dogs! Go and boil your bottom, sons of a silly person. I blow my nose at you, and all your silly werrrrrewolves!" "Now, wait a..." started the wolf. "I don't wanna talk to you no more, you empty headed animal food trough wiper! I fart in your general direction! You mother was a hamster and your father smelt of elderberries!" shouted the guard. "Can we talk to the other guard?" asked Nilpaurion. "No- Now go away or I shall taunt you a second time!" "Why can't we talk to the guard?" "Oh... well, he lost half of his tongue in training." "Oh" said the possible Nilp. "Oh, I've had enough of this!" shouted the wolf who looked most like Brinniel. She charged for the Guard. They had planned the attack beforehand, and now they were ready. They encircled him. In a flash that was barely visible to the human eye, one wolf bit down into the Guard's neck, while the other two stopped him escaping. The other guard came to attempt to rescue his comrade, but it seemed that his halberd was now ineffective against the hide of the wolves. It seemed that their power was too great to be stopped by even the Night Guards. Both they slew, with great enthusiasm, relishing the carnage. They went inside, and there met McCaber. He was asleep in his bed, but as they entered the chamber, he rose, sword in hand. One of the wolves broke it, but with the final piece attached to the hilt he inflicted a nasty cut to one of the wolves before he died. Now the wolves had only one target left, and it was Eönwë, the mayor.
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Night 7 part II
The wolves finally reached the house of the mayor. But instead of having to open the door, he met them in front of his door.
"Yes, I know you are here to kill me," he said. "That is our purpose, yes." The wolves were indistinguishable by now. "But let me tell you what happened. I will tell you the truth about two weeks ago." The wolves nodded in consent. "When I hunted him down, before I killed the Great Wolf, while we were fighting, he bit me. I ignored it at first, ignored the searing pain and the desire to do evil. I have managed to keep control, but I have been afflicted in the same way you have. However, having killed him myself, all his remaining power transferred to me, so that if I were to transform forever, I would be the next Great Wolf." The Werewolves looked at him in disbelief. "Yes. Each night I got the urge to transform, to be become the beast of the night, but I resisted on all but one occasion. I can transform at will." And with that he stood up straight. His outline was highlighted by the moon, and his face was pointed at the stars. Fur streaked across his body, and he grew taller and taller. His nose elongated and joined with his mouth, his ears moved up and expanded. After a few moments, he was a wolf. "It hurts me just as much as it does you. More in fact, probably." He stood, towering above them, like a Numenorean in their days of glory to a stocky Breelander. His fur was black as jet, and sleek. He was no mere wolf. He was no mere werewolf. He was the Great Wolf. He roared. The other wolves ran at him. Though they attacked viciously with their claws and teeth, few scars were left behind. In the end, they all lay at his feet, dead. And after a while, they turned back into their uncorrupted human forms in their death. Eönwë did the same. He mourned all those dead, all those he had ever known. He buried the bodies of Nilpaurion, Brinniel and Greenie. Then he turned his face up at the moon and howled. his body rippled and changed, and became that of a wolf. He looked just like a normal wolf, but for his great size and shocking colour. He ran as a wolf for many days and nights, until he got as far west as he could. There, where the sea met the land, he cast himself off the cliffs and into the water. And so the reign of the wolves was over. The Game has ended. Wolves win. You may now start post-game discussion.
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Bah.
Good job though wolves! I'm sad the village couldn't pull it together but you all did well.
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Roles
Evil:
Wolf = A Little Green - A usual wolf Seer-seer = Brinniel - Specially modified role. A wolf with special powers. Can select a different person each Night to see if they are the seer. Hunter-hunter = Nilpaurion Felagund - Another specially modified role. Each night, the hunter-hunter hunts one person. If that person is a hunter and the hunter-hunter dies, the hunter is killed and their power negated Saboteur = Inzil - A new role. Is a wolf, but is on the side of the village. His aim is to get the wolves killed. Good: Seer = Kitanna Hunter = Wilwa Ranger = McCaber I will post all the other stuff tomorrow. For now, I bid you all a good night (as opposed to Night)
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