Tol-in-Gaurhoth LXVIII: A Full Moon Over Innsmouth

[Pitchwife]

And stating the obvious, Roa looks pretty good up to now. She was quite energetic in her suspicion of SpM and the only one who voted him before I revealed.
Among those who voted after said reveal, Lari is the only one who had voiced suspicion of SpM earlier and, as Kit points out, might have voted him anyway. Looks good as well.

[Nienna]

Originally Posted by Pitchwife

And stating the obvious, Roa looks pretty good up to now. She was quite energetic in her suspicion of SpM and the only one who voted him before I revealed.
Among those who voted after said reveal, Lari is the only one who had voiced suspicion of SpM earlier and, as Kit points out, might have voted him anyway. Looks good as well.

I don't know as I would write off either Roa or Lari based on their SPM suspicions just yet. Especially Roa as before you revealed it didn't seem likely that people would vote for SPM if only because he has just returned to WW. A wolf might think that suspecting him would take the heat off of them if he was found out a wolf exactly like you are doing now. I'm not saying that they are in any way guilty but I don't know as I would say that their suspicion of SPM makes them innocent either.

[Pitchwife]

Nienna, point taken - but 'looks good' is not a synonym for 'is innocent', it just means 'looks more unsuspicious than suspicious to me until further evidence'.
I was about to give Nog bonus points, too, for commenting on the infirmity of SpM's 'case' against Lottie, but now you mention it, his wavering in the question of your over-defensiveness seems noteworthy.

[Pitchwife]

Where is everybody? I haven't got all day, and that Zann toccata's waiting for me; if nobody's talking, I'll go on working on that for a while, hoping to finish the transcription while I'm alive. Back in a couple of hours.

[Morsul the Dark]

Originally Posted by Pitchwife

Where is everybody? I haven't got all day, and that Zann toccata's waiting for me; if nobody's talking, I'll go on working on that for a while, hoping to finish the transcription while I'm alive. Back in a couple of hours.

Want to keep an eye on things and influence us to your liking?

I'm fairly certain he's either a wolf or a cobbler/agent.

and while brinn was taken in quickly Roa's endless defense for this impostor is very noticeable all the while attempting to look neutral.

[Roa_Aoife]

Originally Posted by Morsul the Dark

I chose Roa, there was nothing interesting there.

Originally Posted by Morsul the Dark

and while brinn was taken in quickly Roa's endless defense for this impostor is very noticeable all the while attempting to look neutral.

You claimed you dreamed of me and found me innocent. Now you find me suspicious because I'm "defending" Pitchwife (which I'm not.) Which is it, Morsul? I think you just made a fatal error.

[Morsul the Dark]

Wow my memory is that bad huh? I'm so caught up in Pitchwife's claim I'm forgetting who's innocent... Well I hope a slip of memory doesn't make everyone make the wrong choice about the real seer

[Inziladun]

Originally Posted by Roa_Aoife

You claimed you dreamed of me and found me innocent. Now you find me suspicious because I'm "defending" Pitchwife (which I'm not.) Which is it, Morsul? I think you just made a fatal error.

Nice catch, Roa!

The question is, Agent or wolf?

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Hello, fellow villagers! Yog-Sothoth!

Okay, let's see now. As for what happened, I would say the death of Greenie is very, very probably a no-track kill. Unless the WWs are really good in reading minds and it was there to intercept the Dreamer's dream, which I doubt, though.

Originally Posted by wilwarin538

"I don't like him" because of his bad logic. I think that's fairly logical. I came on yesterday expecting to do a random vote cause it was still fairly early and I hadn't yet seen anyone suspicious, but I saw the "Inzil's been a wolf so many times he might be now too" and found it to be the most suspicious thing so far, therefore I voted for him. Better then a random vote, which is what it would have been otherwise.

Okay, fair enough, I see the point now. Does not call back watching you, but point taken...

As for SpM, though...

Originally Posted by Roa_Aoife

SPM throws serious suspicion at Pitchwife (who we know to be innocent) and Loslote. I highly doubt that SPM would seriously try to lynch a fellow wolf so early in the game. It’s simply not his style.

I think so too. Actually, as far as I can recall, it would really seem SpM-ish to me that he would mention one of his fellows, and that's about it. And he would not even need to suspect him, necessarily. I think he is usually not the type to do that, not that early anyway. So basically, what Roa said. Which, by the way, makes me think good of her, as it looks like genuine reasoning (unless they are culprits and are diverting our attention, of course, but I don't think so now).

As for the people SpM posted about. Loslote then is very likely clear for me. I don't know that much about Inzil, but I must confess I haven't been paying that much attention to him, so I may as well start to do it now and get a better picture of him anyway. As for Lari's interaction with SpM (especially such as on the second page), well, I must say I was slightly suspicious of Lari by the end of yesterDay, after looking at SpM's posts, but on the other hand, orchestrating a Wolf-on-Wolf suspicion on such a weird comment, like saying that SpM is an Agent... unless it would be a deliberate way of creating a "shield" to defend SpM in the future (the Wolves could then say "hey yes, he is suspicious, but he's likely just an Agent, so let's not waste a lynch on him"). But for some reason that sounds to me quite too much complicated plan, which I don't think the Wolves would pull so soon.

Oh, by the way. We have an Agent here. Let's not forget it. He could make a lot of mess. Just to keep it in mind.

Well, I am not sure if I will be around now, it's rather late here, though I will be certainly (or hope I will be) more active tomorrow, that is, in some ten hours... or maybe a bit more, not to be too optimistic. Or maybe I'll pop in yet now, and be around for a while.

[Hakon]

It is good that the wolves did not go after Pitchwife last night since I now for a fact that the ranger did not protect him. Yes my fellow villagers, I am the ranger. I will however protect Pitchwife tonight. I am stating this since I feel like I might end up a lynch target because I once again have to vote early. I also want to add I knew SPM was a wolf. I called it on that one. Sorry for the bragging.

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Originally Posted by Hakon

It is good that the wolves did not go after Pitchwife last night since I now for a fact that the ranger did not protect him. Yes my fellow villagers, I am the ranger. I will however protect Pitchwife tonight. I am stating this since I feel like I might end up a lynch target because I once again have to vote early. I also want to add I knew SPM was a wolf. I called it on that one. Sorry for the bragging.

Okay, after seeing this, well I had to calm down a bit before actually writing this post (and I suggest to everybody to do the same). Okay, after thinking about it a bit: I don't think that it was a wise thing to just reveal, Hakon. At least I didn't think of lynching you at all. But whatever. I must say, it seems like Hakon to do something like that, but it's slightly crazy. And confusing. Whatever.

Anyway, now certainly this is a thing people are going to react to, but, let me strongly emphasise now, let's not spend all Day on one thing. A pre-emptive warning, because I can already imagine it. Anyway, as for that, Priest or whatnot, I don't think I am going to vote for Hakon. It would be certainly very very nice, anyway, if Pitchwife can get another dream. With some better luck this time, and picking somebody whom the WWs won't target.

And as my thoughts are in a bit of a disarray now (understandable, also given the late hour), I may have yet a word or two even on the abovementioned issue, after I sleep on it a bit. So anyway, read you probably in several hours, fellow villagers.

"Slumber, watcher, till the Spheres/Six and twenty thousand years/Have revolv'd, and I return/To the spot where now I burn..."

*disappears Beyond the Wall of Sleep*

[Morsul the Dark]

Wow I missed a lot Especially Pitch Revealing himself as the seer, Here's why that's suspicious to me, because I'm the dreamer I'm thinking Pitch revealed either to save himself from lynching or more likely to get in our good graces by giving up one of his fellow wolfs... If that's the case then Brinn is highly suspect too. Look how quickly she accepted his deception.

Although Nerwen is still fairly suspect very bandwagondish, though maybe not wolfish. By the way he drew a lot of interest yesterday so I checked out Inzil he's clear.

Although I won't vote in my first post this time I'd like to point out Pitch fooled us once let's be weary of any suggestions he has. I mean Come on he "dreamed" about the person was kill conveniently unhelpful isn't it?

Edit: Crossed with Legate

[Hakon]

If you are the dreamer, then who did you dream about? Enlighten us.

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

*returns promptly as even before closing the thread itself, some coruscations of demon light appeared in here*

Originally Posted by Morsul the Dark

Wow I missed a lot Especially Pitch Revealing himself as the seer, Here's why that's suspicious to me, because I'm the dreamer I'm thinking Pitch revealed either to save himself from lynching or more likely to get in our good graces by giving up one of his fellow wolfs... If that's the case then Brinn is highly suspect too. Look how quickly she accepted his deception.

Although Nerwen is still fairly suspect very bandwagondish, though maybe not wolfish. Btw he drew a lot of interest yesterday so I checked out Inzil he's clear.

Although I won't vote in my first post this time I'd like to point out Pitch fooled us once let's be weary of any suggestions he has. I mean Come on he "dreamed" about the person was kill conveniently unhelpful isn't it?

EURGH!!! What is wrong with you people, has the Madness taken you all??? (Already???) Now come on!!! That can't be.

As for that matter, it at least eases my mind on something. Both Hakon and Morsul (or Pitchwife) cannot be Agents, and I don't think they would be an Agent and a Wolf or something like that. Or just a Wolf among all this madness, it sounds too... crazy. Or suicidal.

For that matter, I believe you forgot to list your First Night's dream for us. Therefore, I don't find your claim very reliable.

Unless... no, come on. Unless you folks made some totally weird conspiracy, like you and Hakon being two of the remaining Wolves, but that will be impossible to hold, as once the real Dreamer and Priest's roles would become known, you'd be done for. (By the way, do we have four WWs, right? If I understood the first narration correctly...)

Okay, whatever! I am going to sleep now!! Enough of this!!! Yet these creatures mock me and say that there is no city of Olathoe and that there is no land of Lomar aiiiieeeee... Azathoth have mercy! No more revelations, please...

Current thoughts. Pw: Dreamer. Morsul: bad, probably agent. Hakon: ok, for now...

I mean, it seems really unlikely to me that Pw and SpM would pull off such a trick only to buy the Wolves some time (they would basically expose themselves).

EDIT: x-ed with a few, okay, I will stay around for a while yet and see if Morsul posts anything or what... eurgh.

[Inziladun]

Originally Posted by Hakon

It is good that the wolves did not go after Pitchwife last night since I now for a fact that the ranger did not protect him. Yes my fellow villagers, I am the ranger. I will however protect Pitchwife tonight. I am stating this since I feel like I might end up a lynch target because I once again have to vote early. I also want to add I knew SPM was a wolf. I called it on that one. Sorry for the bragging.

Protect Pitch tonight and give him one more dream. Let's hope it's a good one toNight.
I'll say nothing about your reveal in itself, save for the fact that you certainly should only have done this if you were in serious danger of being lynched. And yes, indeed you were right about SPM. I still don't endorse the thought process that led you to your conclusion though.

EDIT- Just noticed Morsul! What!?!

[Inziladun]

Morsul, if I was your dream one Night, who was your other?

[Roa_Aoife]

So now we have two seers and a ranger? Oh man...

Morsul, if you're the dreamer, who did you dream?

Hakon, that was totally unnecessary. You were in no danger whatsoever, and if the wolves had tried to kill pitchwife toNight, they wouldn't have made a kill and we'd be up an advantage.

I'm pretty sure Morsul is the Agent. As such we should ignore him. (He counts as an innocent in the numbers.) I did the very same thing to seer-Rikae when I was the cobbler. Pitch wasn't in lead in the votes, and would certainly not have handed over a fellow wolf on Day 1, especially one as powerful as SPM.

Edit: Crossed with a bunch. And what did your dreams reveal about me and Inzil?