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Old 10-19-2009, 08:14 PM   #1
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K, I know you guys are all pretty convinced of my guilt but please, just think about this for a second.

If I had kept my mouth shut on Day 2 Hakon would have died that night and Pitch the following. And we would have gotten nothing, since Pitch dreamt of Greenie that Night. BUT since I pretended to be the Ranger I got us 2 more dreams (one of which is a wolf, which is lovely).

Now....what kind of stupid wolf would do this???? The Ranger was already revealed, a wolf me would have nothing to gain by bluffing and putting myself out in the open like that. Nothing. And providing the village with two more dreams??? No. A wolf me would never do such a thing, I always stay under the radar when I'm a wolf. I do crazy stuff when I'm an ord (like now) or in a role I've never had before (like my last game as Hunter), but never as a wolf.

But whatever. We're lynching Lari today so I know I've got one more Day to try and convince you, I just hope tomorrow you don't waste your time with me.

Gotta sleep now. I'll be around in the morning. And might as well vote now aswell:

++Lari
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Old 10-19-2009, 08:34 PM   #2
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I kept Pitchwife alive. I protected him the second night and I bluffed him into protection the third night and really protected myself. The fourth night I protected him and the wolves failed to kill him. Wolfwa I came up with this plan before you false revealed. You did not keep either Pitchwife or me alive. Tomorrow I vote for Wolfwa.
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Old 10-19-2009, 09:01 PM   #3
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I kept Pitchwife alive. I protected him the second night and I bluffed him into protection the third night and really protected myself. The fourth night I protected him and the wolves failed to kill him. Wolfwa I came up with this plan before you false revealed. You did not keep either Pitchwife or me alive. Tomorrow I vote for Wolfwa.
Did we ever get the word from McCaber as to whether the Priest is allowed to protect ximself?
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Old 10-19-2009, 09:16 PM   #4
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I have never seen a rule against the Ranger protecting himself. I can recall from several games in the past where the ranger did just that, usually because they didn't know who to protect. Unless there is a specific rule from the mod, it's allowed. It is generally looked down upon as being more helping yourself than helping the village, but there is no rule against it.
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Old 10-19-2009, 10:12 PM   #5
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++Lari

I realised I totally let her slip under my radar and have ignored her the entire game. And I don't think that's the first time it's happened. Lari has been a bit of a submarine, but next time I really shouldn't let her just slip by.

With the whole wilwa deal, I can see it going either way. Ordos have done crazy things before and if she thought it would help the village out in the long run, I can see her doing it. On the other hand, backing off from a false claim in this manner is the perfect ploy for a wolf, especially a desperate one. The fact that she anti-revealed shortly after Pitch indicated that he dreamt a wolf makes her look more suspicious as a baddie who freaked out. If she were innocent, then there would be no reason to suddenly retract the reveal since if a wolf was dreamt of, obviously it wasn't her or Hakon so neither would be lynched toDay at least. The only thing I'm wondering is why a wolf would counter-reveal like she did, especially after losing a mate on Day One. I don't think wilwa was in the spotlight at all and neither was Lari. Maybe she was assuming the ranger could protect himself? I don't know, it just seems like such a risky move to make so early on with little reason.

There's really no way to know whether wilwa speaks the truth (unless Pitch dreams her toNight and is somehow still alive the next Day). Which means we have no choice but to lynch her. I think there's a good chance she's a wolf, but if she's not, with two wolves down we can afford that loss toMorrow.

ToDay has been an easy one, but we shouldn't just assume wilwa is our last wolf and slack off. I do think we should lynch her toMorrow, but we should also spend the rest of toDay and toMorrow looking at other players in case we end up being wrong.

So right now...

Known Innocents:
Nogrod
Pitchwife
Hakon
Cray


Known Baddie:
Lari

Unknown:
Inziladun
wilwa
Roa
Nerwen
Legate
Morsul*


*I'm still leaving him as unknown on the off-chance that he isn't the agent. I'm at least fairly confident he isn't a wolf due to his disappearance. At this point, it really does look like he just gave up. As for Cray, I'll keep him as a known innocent since no one's contested his hunter claim.

Anyway, I don't think I'll contribute much tonight since it's late and considering I overslept today, I really do need to head to bed soon. But I'll try to be more productive toMorrow.
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Old 10-19-2009, 08:35 PM   #6
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K, I know you guys are all pretty convinced of my guilt but please, just think about this for a second.

If I had kept my mouth shut on Day 2 Hakon would have died that night and Pitch the following. And we would have gotten nothing, since Pitch dreamt of Greenie that Night. BUT since I pretended to be the Ranger I got us 2 more dreams (one of which is a wolf, which is lovely).

Now....what kind of stupid wolf would do this???? The Ranger was already revealed, a wolf me would have nothing to gain by bluffing and putting myself out in the open like that. Nothing. And providing the village with two more dreams??? No. A wolf me would never do such a thing, I always stay under the radar when I'm a wolf. I do crazy stuff when I'm an ord (like now) or in a role I've never had before (like my last game as Hunter), but never as a wolf.
Wilwa, I am indeed puzzled by why a wolf-you would have acted as you did... but then I'm puzzled by why an innocent you would either.

This–

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But it's so obvious to me that Hakon is evil, I just wanted it to be out there so we can definitely get a baddie today.
does not look much like the work of an ordo intent on saving the Ranger to me.

I am, however, looking at the unknowns, just in case when we lynch you you turn out to be innocent after all. I say "when" advisedly, because– well, honestly, Wilwa, we pretty much have to lynch you. We'd be mad to leave the single most suspicious person in the village alive, when there's no longer a chance you're the Ranger.

EDIT:X'd with Hakon.
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