Tol-in-Gaurhoth LXVIII: A Full Moon Over Innsmouth - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Hakon · 10-19-2009, 08:34 PM

I kept Pitchwife alive. I protected him the second night and I bluffed him into protection the third night and really protected myself. The fourth night I protected him and the wolves failed to kill him. Wolfwa I came up with this plan before you false revealed. You did not keep either Pitchwife or me alive. Tomorrow I vote for Wolfwa.

Inziladun · 10-19-2009, 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Hakon

I kept Pitchwife alive. I protected him the second night and I bluffed him into protection the third night and really protected myself. The fourth night I protected him and the wolves failed to kill him. Wolfwa I came up with this plan before you false revealed. You did not keep either Pitchwife or me alive. Tomorrow I vote for Wolfwa.

Did we ever get the word from McCaber as to whether the Priest is allowed to protect ximself?

Roa_Aoife · 10-19-2009, 09:16 PM

I have never seen a rule against the Ranger protecting himself. I can recall from several games in the past where the ranger did just that, usually because they didn't know who to protect. Unless there is a specific rule from the mod, it's allowed. It is generally looked down upon as being more helping yourself than helping the village, but there is no rule against it.

Brinniel · 10-19-2009, 10:12 PM

++Lari

I realised I totally let her slip under my radar and have ignored her the entire game. And I don't think that's the first time it's happened. Lari has been a bit of a submarine, but next time I really shouldn't let her just slip by.

With the whole wilwa deal, I can see it going either way. Ordos have done crazy things before and if she thought it would help the village out in the long run, I can see her doing it. On the other hand, backing off from a false claim in this manner is the perfect ploy for a wolf, especially a desperate one. The fact that she anti-revealed shortly after Pitch indicated that he dreamt a wolf makes her look more suspicious as a baddie who freaked out. If she were innocent, then there would be no reason to suddenly retract the reveal since if a wolf was dreamt of, obviously it wasn't her or Hakon so neither would be lynched toDay at least. The only thing I'm wondering is why a wolf would counter-reveal like she did, especially after losing a mate on Day One. I don't think wilwa was in the spotlight at all and neither was Lari. Maybe she was assuming the ranger could protect himself? I don't know, it just seems like such a risky move to make so early on with little reason.

There's really no way to know whether wilwa speaks the truth (unless Pitch dreams her toNight and is somehow still alive the next Day). Which means we have no choice but to lynch her. I think there's a good chance she's a wolf, but if she's not, with two wolves down we can afford that loss toMorrow.

ToDay has been an easy one, but we shouldn't just assume wilwa is our last wolf and slack off. I do think we should lynch her toMorrow, but we should also spend the rest of toDay and toMorrow looking at other players in case we end up being wrong.

So right now...

Known Innocents:
Nogrod
Pitchwife
Hakon
Cray

Known Baddie:
Lari

Unknown:
Inziladun
wilwa
Roa
Nerwen
Legate
Morsul*

*I'm still leaving him as unknown on the off-chance that he isn't the agent. I'm at least fairly confident he isn't a wolf due to his disappearance. At this point, it really does look like he just gave up. As for Cray, I'll keep him as a known innocent since no one's contested his hunter claim.

Anyway, I don't think I'll contribute much tonight since it's late and considering I overslept today, I really do need to head to bed soon. But I'll try to be more productive toMorrow.

10-19-2009, 08:34 PM	#1
Hakon Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: May 2009 Location: The Twilight Zone Posts: 736	I kept Pitchwife alive. I protected him the second night and I bluffed him into protection the third night and really protected myself. The fourth night I protected him and the wolves failed to kill him. Wolfwa I came up with this plan before you false revealed. You did not keep either Pitchwife or me alive. Tomorrow I vote for Wolfwa. __________________ Medicine for the soul. ~Inscription over the door of the Library at Thebes

10-19-2009, 09:16 PM	#3
Roa_Aoife Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Someday, I'll rule all of it. Posts: 1,696	I have never seen a rule against the Ranger protecting himself. I can recall from several games in the past where the ranger did just that, usually because they didn't know who to protect. Unless there is a specific rule from the mod, it's allowed. It is generally looked down upon as being more helping yourself than helping the village, but there is no rule against it. __________________ We can't all be Roas* when it comes to analysing...* -Lommy I didn't say you're evil, Roa, I said you're exasperating. -Nerwen

10-19-2009, 10:12 PM	#4
Brinniel Reflection of Darkness Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Polishing the stars. Well, somebody has to do it; they're looking a little bit dull. Posts: 2,983	++Lari I realised I totally let her slip under my radar and have ignored her the entire game. And I don't think that's the first time it's happened. Lari has been a bit of a submarine, but next time I really shouldn't let her just slip by. With the whole wilwa deal, I can see it going either way. Ordos have done crazy things before and if she thought it would help the village out in the long run, I can see her doing it. On the other hand, backing off from a false claim in this manner is the perfect ploy for a wolf, especially a desperate one. The fact that she anti-revealed shortly after Pitch indicated that he dreamt a wolf makes her look more suspicious as a baddie who freaked out. If she were innocent, then there would be no reason to suddenly retract the reveal since if a wolf was dreamt of, obviously it wasn't her or Hakon so neither would be lynched toDay at least. The only thing I'm wondering is why a wolf would counter-reveal like she did, especially after losing a mate on Day One. I don't think wilwa was in the spotlight at all and neither was Lari. Maybe she was assuming the ranger could protect himself? I don't know, it just seems like such a risky move to make so early on with little reason. There's really no way to know whether wilwa speaks the truth (unless Pitch dreams her toNight and is somehow still alive the next Day). Which means we have no choice but to lynch her. I think there's a good chance she's a wolf, but if she's not, with two wolves down we can afford that loss toMorrow. ToDay has been an easy one, but we shouldn't just assume wilwa is our last wolf and slack off. I do think we should lynch her toMorrow, but we should also spend the rest of toDay and toMorrow looking at other players in case we end up being wrong. So right now... Known Innocents: Nogrod Pitchwife Hakon Cray Known Baddie: Lari Unknown: Inziladun wilwa Roa Nerwen Legate Morsul* I'm still leaving him as unknown on the off-chance that he isn't the agent. I'm at least fairly confident he isn't a wolf due to his disappearance. At this point, it really does look like he just gave up. As for Cray, I'll keep him as a known innocent since no one's contested his hunter claim. Anyway, I don't think I'll contribute much tonight since it's late and considering I overslept today, I really do need to head to bed soon. But I'll try to be more productive toMorrow. __________________ Nolite te bastardes carborundorum*