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Corpus Cacophonous
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One thing which might well have been a ruse, however, was Roa’s apparent initial belief that there were only three Wolves. It could well have been intended to suggest, even if only subliminally, that she cannot possibly be a Wolf because otherwise she would have known that there were four Wolves. It’s not much on its own but, combined with her quickness to jump on my misunderstanding and her expressed suspicion of Nerwen, seemingly based only on Nerwen’s early accusations (which were clearly flippant, in my view), it makes me rather uneasy about her, moreso than anyone else at present.
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Ghost Prince of Cardolan
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Corpus Cacophonous
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![]() Still, I am some way off the point where I need to vote, and there are a fair few who have not yet spoken, so I am reserving judgment for now.
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I am here, sorry I'm so late, had a test and a bunch going on this morning, but I will be around randomly for about the next 3ish hours, then again later tonight to vote.
reading....
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Wight of the Old Forest
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What's going on between Roa and SpM at the moment looks like a classical suspicion match between two active innocents to me. Nice TV for the wolves.
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Ghost Prince of Cardolan
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Yes, Pitch, that is exactly what I am referring to. And as I said, it isn't much, it's just the best I have at the moment.
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Wight of the Old Forest
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Continuing from my last - what Brinn says here could just as well be a furry attempt to use the FWI discussion for sowing suspicion among the innocents involved in it. But that's pretty tenuous too, and the rest of her post sounds sensible.
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Fluttering Enchantment
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To be in theme: we should all just go to everyone's rooms and be really quite, and if we here a heart beat under someone's floor boards then we gots a baddie.....
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![]() 4 wolves?! Wow.....well, our chances of getting one is fairly high, cause there are so many, and then we just have to hope that the Bear kills a wolf and the wolves kill the Bear and we'll be off to a great start.....aslong as the gifteds don't all start revealing again. ![]() I don't understand this "Friendly Wolf" talk, I get where it came from but the Moddess cleared up it's non-existence so I don't really understand why it's being talked about. Any baddie would have known the mod would eventually clear it up, so I doubt they would have tried to use the confusion to their advantage. I will agree that Bears are tough, they can quite easily hide behind the fact that they could care less whether the wolves die or not, but anyone trying overly hard to go under the radar will look more suspicious to me then usual. The Lovers worry me aswell, with the large number of wolves they may think it more beneficial for their survival to act cobbler-like and help the baddies along, but I don't have much experience actually playing with that role being around, so I really don't know what type of strategies they use. Hmm.....no one is jumping out at me yet. I need to do a bit of homework and then I'll come back and re-read everything again, and maybe make a little list or something....
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If Roa is reserving the raven then I must have the pendulum! That's the nightmare from my childhood as I went and read the story a bit too young...
![]() On other news: it's always disappointing to come in a bit late on the Day and see that all the interesting things you had discovered during your read-in are discussed in the few posts just before yours... ![]() Well, it just tells one that certain things do raise the eyebrows... But I still think I have something to add on a few things that have been mentioned recently. Just a moment. And btw. this has been a very good Day1 indeed. Unlike sometimes, people have been quite forthcoming - the non-posters excluded - and there seem to be a lot to think... and rethink.
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Sorry it took time, but I had two long calls to speak...
Okay. I have thought that so far Spm, Greenie and Roa have given me some food for thought as to why they do what they do. Spm In his first post he playfully argues why all the three first posters are wolves and then adds that Nerwen's "audacious accusation" towards Sally (saying she is too self-conscious in remarking about the first posters) is very suspicious. In his next post he addresses the Bear; "how good you are, no pressure..." (and a smilie). Followed by a kind of humorous self-revealment for Nerwen's remark ("Lightning never strike in the same place twice, except in horror stories, of course... er ..." (and a smilie). In his third post he introduces the "Friendly-wolf" -interpretation and talks about "ungraciousness" if we killed him. In his fourth he turns now to Inzil who had questioned him of getting after Nerwen too readily and says Inzil looks suspicious for making that interpretation (like reduplicating his own suspicion on Nerwen). In his fifth he says the friendly wolf would not turn against us if he was left the last one. In his sixth he agrees with Nerwen on not willing to kill the friendly wolf before he has gotten a chance of "leaving trails or helped in other ways". In his seventh he backed down from the "friendly wolf" interpretation (as it started turning more and more obvious it was not the case - I mean how did you read that from there to begin with???). In his eighth he is sad because the friendly-wolf -stuff would have confused the wolves. Starts suspecting Roa for jumping on his Friendly-wolf -hypotheses and says it would be bad for a wolf to try that (which might be true, but it would be very good for a cobbler... and even better for one to say just this). In his ninth he defended himself (very reasonably indeed) and went on the suspicion raised by Brinn against Roa, adding to it his own suspicions (Roa suspecting him & Nerwen from early posts). So what should I say, other than he looks like a cobbler to me? All this creating of confusion, all that could be seen as "contact-making" (more of that with Greenie), all the suspicion thrown around like at random (well that could be argued for as a tactics of an innocent as well) and to top it; his defence of himself of saying it would be bad for a wolf to do what he did... heh, so not a wolf, but... a cobbler? Blah... this is taking ages... ![]() I need to have a cigarette and be a bit less thorough with Greenie & Roa...
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Wight of the Old Forest
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As for the Lovers - what she said (btw, is that phrase copyrighted or public domain? It seems to be a special trademark of sally's). But they can't kill anybody and are in just as much danger of being killed as anybody else, so I'd treat them as harmless innocents. (Ah - x'ed with Nog.) EDIT: (And Fea. Nice to see you both.)
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Ghost Prince of Cardolan
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*hands Fea a cookie*
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Ghost Prince of Cardolan
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(Yes, I went back and read the rules thoroughly so that I don't make another mistake.) Also, Fea, you rock. People fall into the Monte Carlo fallacy (also known as the "he's been a wolf for the past four games, he can't possibly be a wolf this time" fallacy) quite often, so I'd be disinclined to hold that against Morsul. It's only his second game.
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