WW LXXVII: The Metamorphs of Wolf-562-e - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Shastanis Althreduin · 06-15-2010, 07:08 PM

Oops. That second (double) quote should actually be -

Quote:

Originally Posted by Izzy

Your entire analysis on Paranoia looks more like you are trying to fit what he has said/done to fit your WereBorg theory. As opposed to reaching that conclusion after you analyzed him.

Shastanis Althreduin · 06-15-2010, 07:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paranoia

Finding the bear today is not the best case scenario. Finding the last morph is. By focusing his search on the bear, Shasta is essentially trying to give the last morph a free pass today.

No, it's not, and no, I'm not. I've done the math (which you apparently have either mis-read, not read at all, or completely disregarded), and you're forgetting that having a Morph alive is better than having the Bear alive because the Morph can be killed by the Assassin. You're also giving the Traitor entirely too much credit. We should be wary of them, true, but clearly at least one innocent knows who they are (re: the plot), which greatly diminishes their effectiveness.

Shastanis Althreduin · 06-15-2010, 07:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Izzy

Or were the two secret roles completely separate of the rest. Both created to balance each other out? Bounty Hunter hunts WereBorg, WereBorg must eliminate Bounty Hunter? Or something along those lines.

That would be my guess, given that in Eomer's death-plot, he shot someone that wasn't the bear and apparently did no damage.

Shastanis Althreduin · 06-15-2010, 07:18 PM

....Actually, Izzy, where did you get the name "WereBorg" anyway?

Rikae · 06-15-2010, 07:22 PM

wintywinty...

1:
Apology for missing Day 1

2:
List of roles, mistakenly thinks only one person is simply a "member of
the crew". Interesting.

3:
Doesn't know what the "Terran Intelligence Agents" are.

4:
Adopts Eomer's suspects, assuming that the morphs killed him because he
was "on to something".
This is just such a nonsensical argument that it strikes me as innocentish.
Has wintywinty ever been a wolf before? Could this be the result of Sally &
Wilwa's coaching to play the "newbie card"?

5:
Corrected about 3

6:
"Just finished reading" - lists suspects, but without reasons. Top suspects
Pitchwife, Wilwa, Noia, and Zil.

7,8,9:
Asks about highlighting.

10:
Votes for Pitch.

11, 12:
Explains reasoning behind vote, says he was just about to post
list Izzy posted (roles and players, with all players under "Metamorphship")

13:
Theory about Lottie being killed because her suspicions were "dead on".
Again, nonsensical.

14,15:
Arguing that Wilwamorph would know that everyone would discount the
possibility of her voting with Pitchmorph. Sensible enough, but then again,
Winty's been suspecting Pitch from the beginning for kind of shaky reasons.

16,17:
Asks what a werebear is.

18, 19:
Further explaining why he suspects Pitch (killed innocents suspected him, basically).

20:
"If the innocents who suspect morphs are killed off, than the only innocents left
are ones who suspect other innocents"
Weird. Seems to assume suspicions are static. This sort of thing strikes me as something
a newbie wolf wouldn't come up with, but a newbie innocent would... basically for the same reason
as above: his mates would tell him otherwise, and he would only do this if deliberately playing
the newbie card. I'm going to go with my gut here and say I don't think he's doing that.

21:
Votes Pitch for reasons previously stated.

Conclusion:
Not really very morphish, though could still be a bluffing morph, in which case, hats off!
Still, first in reverse alphabetical order...

Rikae · 06-15-2010, 07:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shastanis Althreduin

....Actually, Izzy, where did you get the name "WereBorg" anyway?

Actually someone else said it earlier... now to go find it...

satansaloser2005 · 06-15-2010, 07:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rikae

Actually someone else said it earlier... now to go find it...

I'll happily offer my services by searching if you'd like.

Rikae · 06-15-2010, 07:33 PM

Pitch said "cyberbear or werecyborg" in 266, wintywinty said "Werebear, or BearCyborg" in 270,
and then Izzy said "wereborg" - which is catchier, to be sure.

satansaloser2005 · 06-15-2010, 07:11 PM

Please put your actual votes on separate lines, as is Werewolf tradition. It's way easier to see a vote which starts out a line (because you can just scan) than to look at every line, even with highlighting to simplify. It makes things easier not only for lazy dead me, but for everyone else too. Thanks for your consideration!

Also....

Rikae-->Pitch
Shasta-->Paranoia
Winty-->Pitch (2)
Pitch-->Paranoia (2)
Paranoia-->Pitch (3)

ETA: x'd with Iz and Shasta

satansaloser2005 · 06-15-2010, 08:07 PM

Rikae-->Pitch
Shasta-->Paranoia
Winty-->Pitch (2)
Pitch-->Paranoia (2)
Paranoia-->Pitch (3)
Dun-->Paranoia (3)

satansaloser2005 · 06-15-2010, 08:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by satansaloser2005

Rikae-->Pitch
Shasta-->Paranoia
Winty-->Pitch (2)
Pitch-->Paranoia (2)
Paranoia-->Pitch (3)
Dun-->Paranoia (3)

Still accurate, which means that currently Paranoia would die.

satansaloser2005 · 06-15-2010, 09:01 PM

Rikae-->Pitch
Shasta-->Paranoia
Winty-->Pitch (2)
Pitch-->Paranoia (2)
Paranoia-->Pitch (3)
Dun-->Paranoia (3)
Izzy-->Pitch (4)

DL, I suspect, so I'll hush. Rikae, if you'd like to either Admin Thread or PM me that'd be great. *hushes*

06-15-2010, 07:18 PM	#4
Shastanis Althreduin Werewolf Psychic Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: In fire, water, earth, and air. But mostly water. Posts: 2,832	....Actually, Izzy, where did you get the name "WereBorg" anyway? __________________ Shasta– ... However, if he's innocent his famous clairvoyant powers must be taking the week off. Meanwhile, the Night-kills have been awfully effective– almost like we're dealing with a psychic wolf... - Nerwen, WW LXXV

06-15-2010, 07:11 PM	#9
satansaloser2005 The Sweetest Spoiler Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: from beneath you it giggles incessantly Posts: 5,789	For the sake of sanity Please put your actual votes on separate lines, as is Werewolf tradition. It's way easier to see a vote which starts out a line (because you can just scan) than to look at every line, even with highlighting to simplify. It makes things easier not only for lazy dead me, but for everyone else too. Thanks for your consideration! Also.... Rikae-->Pitch Shasta-->Paranoia Winty-->Pitch (2) Pitch-->Paranoia (2) Paranoia-->Pitch (3) ETA: x'd with Iz and Shasta __________________ "My heart always cowers behind the defense of my wit." Friendship is two pals munching on a well-cooked face together. Fenris bookworm.

06-15-2010, 08:07 PM	#10
satansaloser2005 The Sweetest Spoiler Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: from beneath you it giggles incessantly Posts: 5,789	Rikae-->Pitch Shasta-->Paranoia Winty-->Pitch (2) Pitch-->Paranoia (2) Paranoia-->Pitch (3) Dun-->Paranoia (3) __________________ "My heart always cowers behind the defense of my wit." Friendship is two pals munching on a well-cooked face together. Fenris bookworm.

06-15-2010, 09:01 PM	#12
satansaloser2005 The Sweetest Spoiler Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: from beneath you it giggles incessantly Posts: 5,789	Rikae-->Pitch Shasta-->Paranoia Winty-->Pitch (2) Pitch-->Paranoia (2) Paranoia-->Pitch (3) Dun-->Paranoia (3) Izzy-->Pitch (4) DL, I suspect, so I'll hush. Rikae, if you'd like to either Admin Thread or PM me that'd be great. hushes __________________ "My heart always cowers behind the defense of my wit." Friendship is two pals munching on a well-cooked face together. Fenris bookworm.

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06-15-2010, 07:22 PM	#5
Rikae Mellifluous Maia Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: A glade open to the stars, deep in Nan Elmoth Posts: 3,489	wintywinty... 1: Apology for missing Day 1 2: List of roles, mistakenly thinks only one person is simply a "member of the crew". Interesting. 3: Doesn't know what the "Terran Intelligence Agents" are. 4: Adopts Eomer's suspects, assuming that the morphs killed him because he was "on to something". This is just such a nonsensical argument that it strikes me as innocentish. Has wintywinty ever been a wolf before? Could this be the result of Sally & Wilwa's coaching to play the "newbie card"? 5: Corrected about 3 6: "Just finished reading" - lists suspects, but without reasons. Top suspects Pitchwife, Wilwa, Noia, and Zil. 7,8,9: Asks about highlighting. 10: Votes for Pitch. 11, 12: Explains reasoning behind vote, says he was just about to post list Izzy posted (roles and players, with all players under "Metamorphship") 13: Theory about Lottie being killed because her suspicions were "dead on". Again, nonsensical. 14,15: Arguing that Wilwamorph would know that everyone would discount the possibility of her voting with Pitchmorph. Sensible enough, but then again, Winty's been suspecting Pitch from the beginning for kind of shaky reasons. 16,17: Asks what a werebear is. 18, 19: Further explaining why he suspects Pitch (killed innocents suspected him, basically). 20: "If the innocents who suspect morphs are killed off, than the only innocents left are ones who suspect other innocents" Weird. Seems to assume suspicions are static. This sort of thing strikes me as something a newbie wolf wouldn't come up with, but a newbie innocent would... basically for the same reason as above: his mates would tell him otherwise, and he would only do this if deliberately playing the newbie card. I'm going to go with my gut here and say I don't think he's doing that. 21: Votes Pitch for reasons previously stated. Conclusion: Not really very morphish, though could still be a bluffing morph, in which case, hats off! Still, first in reverse alphabetical order...

06-15-2010, 07:33 PM	#8
Rikae Mellifluous Maia Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: A glade open to the stars, deep in Nan Elmoth Posts: 3,489	Pitch said "cyberbear or werecyborg" in 266, wintywinty said "Werebear, or BearCyborg" in 270, and then Izzy said "wereborg" - which is catchier, to be sure.