Hobbit movie progressing - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Mithalwen · 07-22-2010, 05:35 AM

well he looks elvish but he is a bit to young for Thranduil isn't he..or is it just that I am getting old?

LadyBrooke · 07-22-2010, 06:18 AM

I always imagined Thranduil in his mid to late twenties, so he's only a couple years too young for me. And when it comes to the elves I'd rather they were on the too young side then the too old side when casting. Though I suppose I'll hold off further opinions of him until November, when I see him in Deathly Hallows or if I manage to catch Camelot next year.

Mithalwen · 07-22-2010, 10:56 AM

It may well be an age thing.. I suppose it could work if you played the Elvenking as a petulant boy-king but since the Hobbit is meant to be a prequel to the extant LOTR films rather than standing alone.. I can't help thinking this guy would seem ludicrous as Orli's Dad..especially if Orli did a cameo. Not having seen him act I wouldn't know if he has the necessary gravitas for the later scenes.

If there is any notice paid to the "history" of Middle Earth, then Thranduil is an elf of great age, one who fought in Mordor and led a fraction of his people home and now has to fight again. for my money you need an actor who has reached full manhood and that for me means late twenties to early forties even if they are aging well. Elves may not have beards until the third cycle, but for my money I want an actor who needs to shave! I rather liked the idea of Jasobn Isaacs but he is now perhaps too old and too associated with Malfoy

Tuor in Gondolin · 07-22-2010, 11:30 AM

A complicating factor for Thranduil could be PJ's probable
inability to resist reprising Legolas. (Just got a picture of
hundreds of elves at the Battle of Five Armies skateboarding
down slopes to attack orcs).

LadyBrooke · 07-22-2010, 01:59 PM

What you mean you don't like super elf Orli ?

Seriously I suppose that part of my inability to accept actors older than 35 for Thranduil is the fact that I felt the elves in LotR looked too old or human. Bower is light haired and light skinned naturally, which would fix some of the problems I had with Celeborn and Legolas. Jason Isaacs would have been a good actor but he's 47 now...Honestly though at the rate filming is going all the actors will be too old.

I think with the elves though getting the age part right is difficult. My imaginings have always been based off of the quote, "...but no sign of age was upon them, unless it were in the depths of their eyes;..." Granted that quote was solely about Galadriel and Celeborn, but I can't imagine Thranduil looking older than them. At the same time I can understand not wanting them to look too young.

One of the other things worrying me about the coming movie is how close they'll stick costume wise to the book. Tolkien doesn't spend much time on clothing but what he does describe is intricate to the characters, in my opinion. The dwarves need different colored hoods, Bilbo needs his handkerchief*, the wood elves need their gems on their colors and belts, and Thranduil needs his crown of flowers.

*Why does Elrond have a red silk handkerchief to give Bilbo?

Inziladun · 08-30-2010, 12:48 PM

Found this, which gives Sylvester McCoy as a cast choice for The Hobbit.
Laying aside the fact that I'm not a Doctor Who fan and I don't think I've heard of him before, theonering.net says he could be up for the part of Radagast. Perhaps he's going to harbour Bilbo and the Dwarves at Rhosgobel so they can leave out Beorn entirely.

davem · 08-30-2010, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Inziladun

Found this, which gives Sylvester McCoy as a cast choice for The Hobbit.

Interesting trivia - McCoy played the Fool opposite Ian McKellan's Lear at the RSC in 2007 - http://www.rsc.org.uk/explore/past-p...ideo-a1s5.aspx

Hookbill the Goomba · 08-30-2010, 02:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Inziladun

Found this, which gives Sylvester McCoy as a cast choice for The Hobbit.
Laying aside the fact that I'm not a Doctor Who fan and I don't think I've heard of him before, theonering.net says he could be up for the part of Radagast. Perhaps he's going to harbour Bilbo and the Dwarves at Rhosgobel so they can leave out Beorn entirely.

I've MET Sylvester McCoy and he spotted my One Ring necklace. He's clearly a fan!

I hope to Rassilon's beard that this is true! Radagast in a pork pie hat?!

07-22-2010, 05:35 AM	#1
Mithalwen Pilgrim Soul Join Date: May 2004 Location: watching the wonga-wonga birds circle... Posts: 9,460	well he looks elvish but he is a bit to young for Thranduil isn't he..or is it just that I am getting old? __________________ “But Finrod walks with Finarfin his father beneath the trees in Eldamar.” Christopher Tolkien, Requiescat in pace

07-22-2010, 06:18 AM	#2
LadyBrooke Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: The modern day version of Edoras: horses, wind, rolling plains =) Posts: 507	I always imagined Thranduil in his mid to late twenties, so he's only a couple years too young for me. And when it comes to the elves I'd rather they were on the too young side then the too old side when casting. Though I suppose I'll hold off further opinions of him until November, when I see him in Deathly Hallows or if I manage to catch Camelot next year. __________________ Busy, Busy, Busy...hoping for more free time soon.

07-22-2010, 10:56 AM	#3
Mithalwen Pilgrim Soul Join Date: May 2004 Location: watching the wonga-wonga birds circle... Posts: 9,460	It may well be an age thing.. I suppose it could work if you played the Elvenking as a petulant boy-king but since the Hobbit is meant to be a prequel to the extant LOTR films rather than standing alone.. I can't help thinking this guy would seem ludicrous as Orli's Dad..especially if Orli did a cameo. Not having seen him act I wouldn't know if he has the necessary gravitas for the later scenes. If there is any notice paid to the "history" of Middle Earth, then Thranduil is an elf of great age, one who fought in Mordor and led a fraction of his people home and now has to fight again. for my money you need an actor who has reached full manhood and that for me means late twenties to early forties even if they are aging well. Elves may not have beards until the third cycle, but for my money I want an actor who needs to shave! I rather liked the idea of Jasobn Isaacs but he is now perhaps too old and too associated with Malfoy __________________ “But Finrod walks with Finarfin his father beneath the trees in Eldamar.” Christopher Tolkien, Requiescat in pace

07-22-2010, 11:30 AM	#4
Tuor in Gondolin Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Southeast Pennsylvania Posts: 3,651	A complicating factor for Thranduil could be PJ's probable inability to resist reprising Legolas. (Just got a picture of hundreds of elves at the Battle of Five Armies skateboarding down slopes to attack orcs). __________________ The poster formerly known as Tuor of Gondolin. Walking To Rivendell and beyond 12,555 miles passed Nt./Day 5: Pass the beacon on Nardol, the 'Fire Hill.'

07-22-2010, 01:59 PM	#5
LadyBrooke Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: The modern day version of Edoras: horses, wind, rolling plains =) Posts: 507	What you mean you don't like super elf Orli ? Seriously I suppose that part of my inability to accept actors older than 35 for Thranduil is the fact that I felt the elves in LotR looked too old or human. Bower is light haired and light skinned naturally, which would fix some of the problems I had with Celeborn and Legolas. Jason Isaacs would have been a good actor but he's 47 now...Honestly though at the rate filming is going all the actors will be too old. I think with the elves though getting the age part right is difficult. My imaginings have always been based off of the quote, "...but no sign of age was upon them, unless it were in the depths of their eyes;..." Granted that quote was solely about Galadriel and Celeborn, but I can't imagine Thranduil looking older than them. At the same time I can understand not wanting them to look too young. One of the other things worrying me about the coming movie is how close they'll stick costume wise to the book. Tolkien doesn't spend much time on clothing but what he does describe is intricate to the characters, in my opinion. The dwarves need different colored hoods, Bilbo needs his handkerchief, the wood elves need their gems on their colors and belts, and Thranduil needs his crown of flowers. Why does Elrond have a red silk handkerchief to give Bilbo? __________________ Busy, Busy, Busy...hoping for more free time soon.

08-30-2010, 12:48 PM	#6
Inziladun Gruesome Spectre Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Heaven's doorstep Posts: 8,039	Found this, which gives Sylvester McCoy as a cast choice for The Hobbit. Laying aside the fact that I'm not a Doctor Who fan and I don't think I've heard of him before, theonering.net says he could be up for the part of Radagast. Perhaps he's going to harbour Bilbo and the Dwarves at Rhosgobel so they can leave out Beorn entirely. __________________ Music alone proves the existence of God.

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