WW LXXIX: Fall From Olympus

[Nogrod]

Originally Posted by Inziladun

And Nog, mate. I see you.

Edit- What I mean, Nog, is that you're visible.

Oops... corrected.

About the wolves and lovers still... So correct me if I'm wrong.

Zeus (innocent) and Hera (wolf) are lovers who already know each others identities eg. Zeus knows one wolf and his immediate fate lies with her and thus in a wolf-victory? If we get Hera killed his alignment should change as his victory would thus be tied with the innocents winning?

The two other wolves know their lover's identity but the lovers don't know theirs. And the wolves are not allowed to communicate their lovers' identities to each other. But what kind of worries me is the possibility of them winning all together, the six of them... they coud form a powerful voting-block togehter if they could hint at each other about whom not to kill and if the innocent-sides of the pairings found out their lupine-lovers.

So can they win together or will it be just one lover-pair that can win? It's not probably too important in a few Days to come but might prove quite a turner later on.

[wilwarin538]

Originally Posted by Nogrod

So can they win together or will it be just one lover-pair that can win? It's not probably too important in a few Days to come but might prove quite a turner later on.

Glirdy said there can be a 3 way Lover victory (which would also be a Wolf victory)

Gotta go now. I'll be back quite a bit later.

x'ed with Eonwe and Rikae

[the phantom]

Originally Posted by Nog

But what kind of worries me is the possibility of them winning all together, the six of them... they coud form a powerful voting-block togehter if they could hint at each other about whom not to kill and if the innocent-sides of the pairings found out their lupine-lovers.

This is why early on I'd be more than willing to kill an "innocent" lover if I felt I had some idea who one was, as it would at the least remove the doomsday scenario of four wolves plus three lovers (plus possibly the cursed and the mytho!!) working in concert.

[the phantom]

Originally Posted by Steve

What do we do if a Seer reveals?

Depends on what he says. The folks he reveals will know what to do more or less, but everyone else on the other hand...

[Nogrod]

Also we should remember that the false seer is on our side - and thus s/he should be most willing to learn if s/he has it right or not! So unlike in normal situation where we have contesting claims, this time they both are goodies trying to help.

Add...
And maybe s/he can figure it out already her/himself early in the game and come open about it?

[Eönwë]

Originally Posted by Nogrod

And maybe s/he can figure it out already her/himself early in the game and come open about it?

Or not reveal at all and try not to say anything too incriminating. Though the latter could get xem lynched and the former mean that all of these would be analysed in detail. So perhaps it would be better for the False Seer to come clean after all if xe realises that that's what xe is.

Luckily for us, there are 20 separate roles, meaning that there is only a 1/20 chance of the False Seer getting it right. Of course, there still is that chance, and there still is the chance that the False Seer will have all correct dreams (of course, then it doesn't matter), and the problem with even one correct dream is that we may end up trusting the false seer and allowing the true to get killed by the wolves, and then realise that the one correct role was just a stroke of luck.

Perhaps Pan and Eros could take turns in protecting both of the Seers until we work out who is the real one (or one of them gets Night killed- there would be no sense whatsoever in not revealing in this case). Is this allowed? (The repeat protection by the Ranger and Hunter Guardian taking turns.)

I can see this is going to be a very confusing game...

edit: x-ed with the last post on page 2