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Gruesome Spectre
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Shasta did say he wasn't opposed to it, didn't he? Did he say before he didn't want to lynch Sally? Or am I thinking of someone else?
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Ghost Prince of Cardolan
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I believe he had actually said he would have preferred Sally lynched over Lottie Day 1 and still wanted her dead after that. There was something about a misunderstanding about that though which my shoddy memory doesn't recall perfectly.
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Gruesome Spectre
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Not sure what to make of Foley. Not the greatest vote, but her reactions afterward looked fairly genuine. And like Nerwen said, it'd be hailed as brilliant if she'd got an Elf.
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Of course, if it had got a wolf as well, I guess I wouldn't be complaining now. EDIT:X'd with Mirandir and Zil.
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I'm looking at Nogrod here on the assumption that the wolves thought he was the Seer, which as we'll see he hinted at very heavily– with a view to working out who the wolves might have thought his dreams were. I've included his thoughts on dead players, because a "Seer" talking about players with known roles in the same terms as unknowns can be a clue about whether he's actually hinting. (Does that make sense?)
Nogrod, Day 1, first half. #57. Quote:
#87. Discusses voting strategy. Wants multiple reps. #88. Ditto. #89. Ditto. #102. Quote:
#104. Voting strategy. Frustrated at Mira. #219. Very suspicious of phantom. Boro is "odd" and Legate's posting "makes him nervous". Quote:
#244. Considers lynching phantom. Suspicious of Sally and Lottie. Doesn't like me, both for "attacking" Mira and "defending" Boro. Disputes Lommy's belief that SoE among the reps would be bad. Suspicious of Boro. #246. Quote:
#250. Highly critical of phantom's explanations for his conduct. #255. List. Suspects me, Boro, Lottie and the phantom. "50-50" about Sally; torn about Izzy; tends to trust Wilwa and Rune. Is slightly more suspicious of Shasta than before and less so of Legate. Quote:
257. Lists Celuien, Glirdy, Greenie, Kath, Steve and Inzil as those of whom he has little to say. Comments: Who, then, could his "Night One dream" have been? It's difficult to say, and in fact it's possible the wolves didn't look too hard at Day One, since the hints on Day Two would likely have been enough to make them jump on him, as long as there was no glaring anomaly, such as proclaiming one of them an innocent. At a guess, it could be Lottie (Elf, obviously) or Mira (innocent)– this based on the way he overreacts to my very mild "attack" on her. He is, of course, also very suspicious of the phantom. Nogrod, Day 2, first half. #386. "I'm here". #391. Sally posts suspiciously, but probably not an Elf because of Lottie's actions. Quote:
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#400. Virtually a repeat of #391. Again argues that Sally is innocent because of Lottie's vote, and says of phantom: Quote:
#405. Considers who to vote for rep. Would have liked Rune, except that his drunkenness would give him an "alibi", making his lynch-vote hard to read. Legate "observant" but hard to read. Tends to trust Lommy for her vote and because "her frustrations felt genuine". #407. Quote:
#410. Votes Legate for rep. Nogrod, Day 2, second half. #454. Thinks Sally and tp innocent, wants to check Lottie's other contacts. #469. After checking, agrees with me that she didn't really have any. Explains belief that Sally and tp should be left to the Seer in vague terms: Quote:
#475. Wilwa suspicious. Rune's composure might be Elvish. "Needs to look" at Zil and Cel. Quote:
#480. Analyses Cel. Finds her less worrying than before. Replies to Shasta: Quote:
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#489. Agrees with Shasta that there is a possible bandwagon on Wilwa, but still finds her the best option. #491. QUotes rules about the OoUA, bolding the following passage. Quote:
#492. Votes to lynch Wilwa. (Wilwa 2) Comments: Based on this, it looks as if his supposed Night 2 dream was either Sally (innocent) or the phantom (innocent)– the latter would be the most logical, especially given how much Nogrod had suspected him the Night before (although the same is true of Sally to a lesser extent). By innocent here I just mean "non-Elf", since I am trying to look at this from the Elvish point of view, and they of course only know who they are. (As a little side-note, though, if I'm right in guessing the wolves think or thought of phantom as a possible OoUA, Nog's cryptic post at #491 might have been taken as confirmation of this.) There is one point against all this: Nogrod's post at #485, where he tells phantom to stop saying he's a known Orc– is that something a Seer would say to a person he'd dreamed? The other, very outside possibility is that he "dreamed" Greenie as an Elf– see #407. However, the fact that Nog said no more of this, and was more than happy to lynch someone else should have tipped the Elves off, not to mention the fact that his actual "hint" posts (#391, #400, #469, #480) were all about the phantom and Sally. Still, Elves do panic sometimes. EDIT:X'd since my last post.
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Erm.. what the eff happened yesterDay?
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Back in a dash with a few responses to what was said yesterDay..
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