Werewolf LXXXI: Under the Misty Mountains

[Inziladun]

Originally Posted by the phantom

Inzil- I don't particularly like the way he led off Day 2 asking, "Why is Phantom still alive?" It sounds too much like the subtext is, "Why not kill TP? I would've killed TP. But he's alive. I'm not an Elf." And of course I still don't like his Day 1 comment I mentioned yesterday- his encouragement of people not to Rep-vote. His chief suspects were certainly Wilwa and I, and he said that he wanted Wilwa dead before Sally, but he voted Shasta for Rep (Shasta had been after Sally). I'm not sure if that's suspicious so much as it's... confusing.

You're still wrong about the not-voting vs random-voting, but it's useless to argue.

Originally Posted by Thinlómien

edit: xed with Shasticle (that's a really perv nickname btw)

That was coined in the previous game, and came from his being locked in a freezer. You should have been there.

Originally Posted by the phantom

If it was totally up to me, I'd want the six Reps to be... let's see here... Celuien, Steve, Rune, Lommy, Legate, and Kath. But obviously that's not going to happen.

Originally Posted by Rune Son of Bjarne

Now that you mention it I would love to see Kath as a rep. It would be interesting to see more from her.

[highlight++Kath for Representative/highlight]

Kath? Really? I'd be interested to see it too, but not when she explicitly said she wouldn't be around at all the latter half of toDay on this thread.

So, the ones with two votes are Nerwen and Greenie. Both have already been reps, but as a plus they're not on tp's 'want' list, so maybe pretty safe.

++Greenie for rep

because she was nominated by Foley first, and Foley's one of the ones I least suspect at this point.

x/d with Shasta, Rune, and tp.

[Inziladun]

Bah. Said they both have two votes, but I meant one at that time.

[the phantom]

THE VOTES:
Green-->Inzil
Foley-->Green
Kath-->Inzil (2)
Legate-->Rune
Steve-->Rune (2)
Lommy-->Nerwen
Rune-->Kath
Shasta-->Nerwen (2)
Inzil-->Green (2)

THE REPS:
Inzil
Rune
Nerwen
Green

LEFT TO VOTE:
Celuien
Mira
Nerwen
Phantom

[the phantom]

Well, guess what? I just missed the deadline.

[the phantom]

Well, if Kath indeed cannot be around at all to vote, I guess it wouldn't have done me any good to make it back in time for the deadline anyway, as she would've been the only person I could've made a Rep. Bleh. Whatever.

[Feanor of the Peredhil]

Zil, Greenie, Rune, and Nerwen are your Reps. Enjoy the power bestowed upon you by the masses.

[Feanor of the Peredhil]

Alas, the Curse strikes again.

Mira will probably not be posting any time soon, and since she's puking, I'm informing you that you'll be taking pity on her and not killing her toDay.

[Thinlómien]

Originally Posted by Inziladun

That was coined in the previous game, and came from his being locked in a freezer. You should have been there.

Seems like that. Poor Shasta!

Somehow I feel malicious since tp missed a deadline.

Originally Posted by Phantom

Lottie was actually talked into her early vote by me, where as Sally's came out of left field with no basis in anything, which of course caused me great alarm, as my number one fear was that Sally was the Seer and she was hiding it with silly randomness.

I mean, did no one else think that at all??!! Obviously I couldn't say anything about it at the time, but it did really really annoy me that the thought didn't occur to more. People never vote completely and totally randomly. It is always based upon something. And so if someone comes on and votes before any posts have been made, the first conclusion my mind leaps to is that the person already has information!

No. First off, I would never expect the seer to be so careless even if it was Sally and secondly no one else than you could have made assumptions based on your innocence because you are the only one who knows it. (This is not to say your innocence is a fact but I just can't bother to write this in a more speculative way because it's difficult to phrase and you should get my point in any case.)

And AAAAAARGH with the modfires. Since we have already lost three ordos, can't we get one wolf modfired just to be fair?!!

And there goes my last suspect, too, proven innocent.

This game is beginning to be hopeless from my part. The only positive stuff I can come up with:
- I just became quite sure Steve is a wolf - someone has to be
- our seer is still alive
- I just managed to analyse my lack of motivation in this game: not enough visible necessity to work hard and seemingly not enough clues (because of the lesser amount of votes) but given the latest modfire I think I'm getting my motivation back slowly... we just can't afford to give up. Also, thanks to tp for making an effort toDay by those vote analyses, it made me feel a bit more hopeful.

[Nerwen]

Originally Posted by Thinlómien

- I just became quite sure Steve is a wolf - someone has to be

Ah, now why Steve?

[Nerwen]

And what do you think of Greenie and Legate?

[Thinlómien]

To be really helpful -

No idea why Steve. There's something troublingly smooth in his manner and choices when it comes to suspicions and votes etc.

And no idea about Greenie and Legate. Currently thinking Legate is probably innocent and very unsure about Greenie.



I think I need a good reread, or at least a good reread of the complete vote tallies. Now I'm off to read a book, do the dishes and have dinner, but I'll be back in a few hours to start doing something about my disturbing blankness of my wolf list.

Nerwen - do you have any idea about whom you're going to vote toDay yet?

[the phantom]

I'll be home and able to post in an hour or so. I'm posting now just to say-

GAAAAAAAAHHHHHH!!!!

(responding to the modfire)

Now we have two fewer days to catch the culprits than we originally had! Which is another reason I'm against multi-lynches in the early going. We're best served to extend the game as long as possible and gain as many night-kills and votes as we can to use as evidence. Anyway... yeah... stop dying people. If you can't participate any more, just show up once a day and vote me for Rep. Even if you aren't certain of my innocence you at least would help the tally that way.

[the phantom]

Okay, so, when I add up my suspicion post here and my Rep-votes post here and my Day 1 lynch-vote post here, what do I end up with?

RATHER SUSPICIOUS ORCS:
Green
Inzil
Shasta
Nerwen

PARTLY SUSPICIOUS ORCS:
Legate
Steve

LESS SUSPICIOUS ORCS:
Lommy
Rune

NO READ ORCS:
Foley
Mira
Kath

[Folwren]

During lunch break, I read some of Day2, and most of what I read was the ongoing discussion between Nerwen and Phantom. I am not quite sure what to make of it all, but as you two are fairly constant players, I figured I may as well ask the questions that were bothering me...

Nerwen, why did you press Phantom so hard about being the seer? It seemed very important to you that he have an explenation for making his last minute seer-confesion/reveal thing on Day 1. Why so? Were you trying to decipher whether or not he really WAS the seer? Why was it so important to you? If you think it links him to an elf, then say so, please.

At first I thought your split vote on day 1 was suspcious, but after considering it for a while I think that this was an un-elvish thing to do, because if you had wanted to save Lottie, who at that point had three votes and I don't think anyone else did, you could've given both your votes to Sally or something like that. I can't remember numbers exactly.

But harping on and on about Phantom seems strange to me. Please explain.

While looking through Day1, I found something which strengthens my opinion that Inzil is not an elf:

Originally Posted by Inzil post 225

That's the way I see the Sally and Lottie votes too. I don't know whether tp is a SoE, but I flat-out disagree with him on this. And it feels likely that there's a SoE among the three of them.

I don't think an elf would draw attention to that. If anything, they'd try to draw attention away. Or...as Mirandir did, join in the fray without really drawing any guilty attention to herself. Why is she considered clear of the radar? Because in the past, Mir has acted crazily excited when she's bad? Hm...

Phantom, how is it you've missed voting so many times this game? That's insane.

In all honesty, I don't think he is guilty. I think if he had been, he would've tried to save Lottie. I know Nerwen said, "baddies have said before, "if I were a wolf, I wouldn't act in such a way" or "if I were a wolf, I would've done this."" but still....to let a fellow wolf get killed that first day? Seems risky and unloyal to me - unless there was some greater cause that she was being sacrificed for, which I don't currently see.

Quite honestly, I think we have a wolf among our quieter set of people. Good luck finding that stuff out.

So...that whole post to say:

Phantom - probably innocent
Inzil - probably innocent
Nerwen - a little questionmark, but also probably innocent.

Sorry I've got nothing better. My time is so scattered that my reading of the thread is scattered, too. It took me almost two hours to compose this post.

X-posted with Phantom

-- Foley

[Eönwë]

Originally Posted by Thinlómien

- I just became quite sure Steve is a wolf - someone has to be

Wait, what? Where did that come from?

[Eönwë]

All caught up.

Originally Posted by Thinlómien

- I just became quite sure Steve is a wolf - someone has to be

Wait, what? Where did that come from?


edit: x-ed with many


edit 2: Gah. Double post, seemingly. Sorry.